Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-14 Thread Mike Galbraith
On 13 May 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Galbraith) wrote on 13.05.01 in ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On 13 May 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > you stand, it'll cost you

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-14 Thread Mike Galbraith
On 13 May 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Galbraith) wrote on 13.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13 May 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you stand, it'll cost you around $15K and that, in my

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Galbraith) wrote on 13.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 13 May 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > you stand, it'll cost you around $15K and that, in my opinion, is > > > > fine. If

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > you stand, it'll cost you around $15K and that, in my opinion, is fine. > > If it isn't worth $15K to protect your code then it is worth so little to > > you that there really is no good reason not to just GPL it from

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you stand, it'll cost you around $15K and that, in my opinion, is fine. If it isn't worth $15K to protect your code then it is worth so little to you that there really is no good reason not to just GPL it from the

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Galbraith) wrote on 13.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13 May 2001, Kai Henningsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Cox) wrote on 09.05.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: you stand, it'll cost you around $15K and that, in my opinion, is fine. If it isn't worth $15K

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread Alan Cox
> and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in > themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those > sections when you distribute them as separate works. > > For example, suppose I ship you a tarball that has the source & binaries > for both a

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread mirabilos
> If the free software community understood and accepted this, by the way, > then I think that it removes the need for the LGPL, it's redundant. What is when compiling a DOS/DJGPP programme? IIRC it is statically linked to the libc-dos. IIRC the LGPL here prevents the remaining DOS programme

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 07:06:38PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > As part of our operating system / networking research, we have > > written a loadable kernel module for Linux. We would like to > > distribute the source but we're not sure if our development > > office will allow us to release it

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread Alan Cox
> As part of our operating system / networking research, we have > written a loadable kernel module for Linux. We would like to > distribute the source but we're not sure if our development > office will allow us to release it under the GPL (at least > initially). Before meeting with the

Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread Scott C. Karlin
It appears that Linus Torvalds has stated that it is possible to have a non-GPL'd (or even binary only) Linux device driver kernel module dynamically linked to the kernel "assuming all the nasty requirements are met." [see reference below] What, specifically, are the "nasty requirements?" *

Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread Scott C. Karlin
It appears that Linus Torvalds has stated that it is possible to have a non-GPL'd (or even binary only) Linux device driver kernel module dynamically linked to the kernel assuming all the nasty requirements are met. [see reference below] What, specifically, are the nasty requirements? * Is it

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread Alan Cox
As part of our operating system / networking research, we have written a loadable kernel module for Linux. We would like to distribute the source but we're not sure if our development office will allow us to release it under the GPL (at least initially). Before meeting with the lawyers,

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 07:06:38PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: As part of our operating system / networking research, we have written a loadable kernel module for Linux. We would like to distribute the source but we're not sure if our development office will allow us to release it under the

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread mirabilos
If the free software community understood and accepted this, by the way, then I think that it removes the need for the LGPL, it's redundant. What is when compiling a DOS/DJGPP programme? IIRC it is statically linked to the libc-dos. IIRC the LGPL here prevents the remaining DOS programme code

Re: Nasty Requirements for non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules?

2001-05-09 Thread Alan Cox
and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as separate works. For example, suppose I ship you a tarball that has the source binaries for both a GPLed