Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-19 Thread NeilBrown
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:39:11 +0400 Vyacheslav Dubeyko wrote: > [snip] > > > > > > And Would you share ppt or document of f2fs if Korea Linux Forum is > > > finished ? > > > > > > > Here I attached the slides, and LF will also share the slides. > > Thanks, > > > > I had hope that slides

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-19 Thread NeilBrown
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:39:11 +0400 Vyacheslav Dubeyko sl...@dubeyko.com wrote: [snip] And Would you share ppt or document of f2fs if Korea Linux Forum is finished ? Here I attached the slides, and LF will also share the slides. Thanks, I had hope that slides will have

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-18 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
> [snip] > > > > > > And Would you share ppt or document of f2fs if Korea Linux Forum is > > > finished ? > > > > > > > Here I attached the slides, and LF will also share the slides. > > Thanks, > > > > I had hope that slides will have more detailed description. Maybe it is > good for Linux

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-18 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
[snip] > > > > And Would you share ppt or document of f2fs if Korea Linux Forum is > > finished ? > > > > Here I attached the slides, and LF will also share the slides. > Thanks, > I had hope that slides will have more detailed description. Maybe it is good for Linux Forum. But do you plan

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-18 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
[snip] And Would you share ppt or document of f2fs if Korea Linux Forum is finished ? Here I attached the slides, and LF will also share the slides. Thanks, I had hope that slides will have more detailed description. Maybe it is good for Linux Forum. But do you plan to publish

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-18 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
[snip] And Would you share ppt or document of f2fs if Korea Linux Forum is finished ? Here I attached the slides, and LF will also share the slides. Thanks, I had hope that slides will have more detailed description. Maybe it is good for Linux Forum. But do you plan to

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-17 Thread Changman Lee
el@vger.kernel.org; > chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > 2012/10/11, Changman Lee : > > 2012년 10월 11일 목요일에 Namjae

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-17 Thread Namjae Jeon
2012/10/11, Changman Lee : > 2012년 10월 11일 목요일에 Namjae Jeon님이 작성: >> 2012/10/10 Jaegeuk Kim : >> I mean that every volume is placed inside any partition (MTD or GPT). > Every partition begins from any physical sector. So, as I can understand, f2fs volume can begin from > physical

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-17 Thread Namjae Jeon
2012/10/13, Jaegeuk Kim : > 2012-10-13 (토), 13:26 +0900, Namjae Jeon: >> Is there high possibility that the storage device can be rapidly >> worn-out by cleaning process ? e.g. severe fragmentation situation by >> creating and removing small files. >> > > Yes, the cleaning process in F2FS induces

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-17 Thread Namjae Jeon
2012/10/13, Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@gmail.com: 2012-10-13 (토), 13:26 +0900, Namjae Jeon: Is there high possibility that the storage device can be rapidly worn-out by cleaning process ? e.g. severe fragmentation situation by creating and removing small files. Yes, the cleaning process in

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-17 Thread Namjae Jeon
2012/10/11, Changman Lee cm224@gmail.com: 2012년 10월 11일 목요일에 Namjae Jeonlinkinj...@gmail.com님이 작성: 2012/10/10 Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: I mean that every volume is placed inside any partition (MTD or GPT). Every partition begins from any physical sector. So, as I can

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-17 Thread Changman Lee
@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system 2012/10/11, Changman Lee cm224@gmail.com: 2012년 10월 11일 목요일에 Namjae Jeonlinkinj...@gmail.com님이 작성: 2012/10/10 Jaegeuk

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-13 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
2012-10-13 (토), 13:26 +0900, Namjae Jeon: > Is there high possibility that the storage device can be rapidly > worn-out by cleaning process ? e.g. severe fragmentation situation by > creating and removing small files. > Yes, the cleaning process in F2FS induces additional writes so that flash

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-13 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
2012-10-13 (토), 13:26 +0900, Namjae Jeon: Is there high possibility that the storage device can be rapidly worn-out by cleaning process ? e.g. severe fragmentation situation by creating and removing small files. Yes, the cleaning process in F2FS induces additional writes so that flash

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-12 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 10 October 2012 11:36:14 David Woodhouse wrote: > The whole thing is silly. What we actually want on an embedded system is > to ditch the FTL altogether and have direct access to the NAND. Then we > can know our file system is behaving optimally. And we don't need > hacks like TRIM to

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-12 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 10 October 2012 00:53:51 Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:01:24PM +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote: > > Do not get me wrong, I do not think it is worth to wait for vendors > > to come to their senses, but it is worth constantly reminding that > > we *need* this kind of

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-12 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
2012-10-12 (금), 16:30 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: > On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 18:43 +0900, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > > [snip] > > > > How about the following scenario? > > > > 1. data "a" is newly written. > > > > 2. checkpoint "A" is done. > > > > 3. data "a" is truncated. > > > > 4. checkpoint "B" is

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-12 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 18:43 +0900, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > [snip] > > > How about the following scenario? > > > 1. data "a" is newly written. > > > 2. checkpoint "A" is done. > > > 3. data "a" is truncated. > > > 4. checkpoint "B" is done. > > > > > > If fs supports multiple snapshots like "A" and

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-12 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 18:43 +0900, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: [snip] How about the following scenario? 1. data a is newly written. 2. checkpoint A is done. 3. data a is truncated. 4. checkpoint B is done. If fs supports multiple snapshots like A and B to users, it cannot reuse

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-12 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
2012-10-12 (금), 16:30 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 18:43 +0900, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: [snip] How about the following scenario? 1. data a is newly written. 2. checkpoint A is done. 3. data a is truncated. 4. checkpoint B is done. If fs supports

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-12 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 10 October 2012 00:53:51 Theodore Ts'o wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:01:24PM +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote: Do not get me wrong, I do not think it is worth to wait for vendors to come to their senses, but it is worth constantly reminding that we *need* this kind of information

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-12 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 10 October 2012 11:36:14 David Woodhouse wrote: The whole thing is silly. What we actually want on an embedded system is to ditch the FTL altogether and have direct access to the NAND. Then we can know our file system is behaving optimally. And we don't need hacks like TRIM to try

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Namjae Jeon
2012/10/10 Jaegeuk Kim : >> >> I mean that every volume is placed inside any partition (MTD or GPT). Every >> partition begins from any >> physical sector. So, as I can understand, f2fs volume can begin from >> physical sector that is laid >> inside physical erase block. Thereby, in such case

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 10:31 +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote: > I am sorry but this reply makes me smile. How can you design a fs > relying on time attack heuristics to figure out what the proper > layout should be ? Or even endorse such heuristics to be used in > mkfs ? What we should be focusing on is

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
[snip] > > How about the following scenario? > > 1. data "a" is newly written. > > 2. checkpoint "A" is done. > > 3. data "a" is truncated. > > 4. checkpoint "B" is done. > > > > If fs supports multiple snapshots like "A" and "B" to users, it cannot > > reuse the space allocated by > > data "a"

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 02:53:26PM -0500, Jooyoung Hwang wrote: > I'd like you to refer to the following link as well which is about > mobile workload pattern. > http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~fuyaoz/courses/15712/report.pdf > It's reported that in Android there are frequent issues of fsync and > most of

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:01:24PM +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote: > Do not get me wrong, I do not think it is worth to wait for vendors > to come to their senses, but it is worth constantly reminding that > we *need* this kind of information and those heuristics are not > feasible in the long run

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
Jaegeuk Kim > > > Cc: 'Marco Stornelli'; 'Jaegeuk Kim'; 'Al Viro'; ty...@mit.edu; > > > gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux- > > > ker...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > > > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > > > linux-fsde...@

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
Viro'; ty...@mit.edu; > > gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux- > > ker...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system >

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
; linux- ker...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system NILFS2 is one of major log-structured file systems, which supports multiple snap

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
'; 'Al Viro'; ty...@mit.edu; gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux- ker...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system I'd like you

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:01:24PM +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote: Do not get me wrong, I do not think it is worth to wait for vendors to come to their senses, but it is worth constantly reminding that we *need* this kind of information and those heuristics are not feasible in the long run anyway.

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 02:53:26PM -0500, Jooyoung Hwang wrote: I'd like you to refer to the following link as well which is about mobile workload pattern. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~fuyaoz/courses/15712/report.pdf It's reported that in Android there are frequent issues of fsync and most of them

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
[snip] How about the following scenario? 1. data a is newly written. 2. checkpoint A is done. 3. data a is truncated. 4. checkpoint B is done. If fs supports multiple snapshots like A and B to users, it cannot reuse the space allocated by data a after checkpoint B even though

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 10:31 +0200, Lukáš Czerner wrote: I am sorry but this reply makes me smile. How can you design a fs relying on time attack heuristics to figure out what the proper layout should be ? Or even endorse such heuristics to be used in mkfs ? What we should be focusing on is to

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-10 Thread Namjae Jeon
2012/10/10 Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: I mean that every volume is placed inside any partition (MTD or GPT). Every partition begins from any physical sector. So, as I can understand, f2fs volume can begin from physical sector that is laid inside physical erase block. Thereby, in

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
ko'; 'Marco Stornelli'; > 'Jaegeuk Kim'; 'Al Viro'; > ty...@mit.edu; gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; > chur@samsung.com; > cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-fri

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Dave Chinner
[ Folks, can you trim your responses down to just quote the part you are responding to? Having to repeatedly scroll through 500 lines of irrelevant text just to find the 5 lines that is being commented on is exceedingly painful. ] On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:01:18PM +0900, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > >

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jooyoung Hwang
Viro'; ty...@mit.edu; > > gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux- > > ker...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > >

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
2012-10-09 (화), 14:39 +0200, Lukáš Czerner: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you can see the f2fs kernel document patch, I think one of > > > > > > > > the most > > > > > > > > important features is to align operating units between f2fs and > > > > >

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Lukáš Czerner
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you can see the f2fs kernel document patch, I think one of the > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > important features is to align operating units between f2fs and > > > > > > > ftl. > > > > > > > Specifically, f2fs has section

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
foundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; > chur@samsung.com; > cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: >

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Lukáš Czerner
@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, > chur@samsung.com, cm224@samsung.com, jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com, > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > > -Original Message-

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
euk Kim'; > 'Al Viro'; ty...@mit.edu; > gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; > chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system >

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Lukáš Czerner
x-kernel@vger.kernel.org, > chur@samsung.com, cm224@samsung.com, jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com, > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > > -Original Message- > > From: Namjae Jeon [mailto:li

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; > chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim : > >> -Original Message--

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > Hi, > > On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > > >> -Original

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system Hi, On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: -Original Message- From: Vyacheslav Dubeyko [mailto:sl...@dubeyko.com] Sent

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: -Original Message- From: Namjae Jeon [mailto:linkinj

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Lukáš Czerner
@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: -Original Message- From: Vyacheslav Dubeyko [mailto:sl

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
...@mit.edu; gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system On Mon, 8 Oct 2012, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: Date

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Lukáš Czerner
...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: -Original

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:45:57 +0900 From: Jaegeuk Kim

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Lukáš Czerner
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: As you can see the f2fs kernel document patch, I think one of the most important features is to align operating units between f2fs and ftl. Specifically, f2fs has section and zone, which are cleaning unit

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
2012-10-09 (화), 14:39 +0200, Lukáš Czerner: On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: As you can see the f2fs kernel document patch, I think one of the most important features is to align operating units between f2fs and ftl. Specifically, f2fs has

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jooyoung Hwang
; linux- ker...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system Hi, On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: -Original Message

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Dave Chinner
[ Folks, can you trim your responses down to just quote the part you are responding to? Having to repeatedly scroll through 500 lines of irrelevant text just to find the 5 lines that is being commented on is exceedingly painful. ] On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:01:18PM +0900, Jaegeuk Kim wrote:

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-09 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
'; 'Al Viro'; ty...@mit.edu; gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system [ Folks, can you trim your

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Namjae Jeon
; gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; >> chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; >> jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system >> >> 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim :

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
>> gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux- >> ker...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; >> jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; >> linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system >

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
ernel.org; > chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim : > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Namjae J

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Namjae Jeon
; gre...@linuxfoundation.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; >> chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; >> jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system >> >> 2012/10/8, Jaege

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
ernel.org; > chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim : > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Vyacheslav D

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Namjae Jeon
.@linuxfoundation.org; linux- >> ker...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; >> jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; >> linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system >> >> Hi, >> >> On Oct 7,

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > Hi, > > On Oct 7, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > > >> -Original Messag

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system Hi, On Oct 7, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: -Original Message- From: Marco Stornelli [mailto:marco.storne...@gmail.com] Sent

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Namjae Jeon
...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system Hi, On Oct 7, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: -Original Message- From: Marco Stornelli

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: -Original Message- From: Vyacheslav Dubeyko [mailto:sl...@dubeyko.com] Sent: Sunday

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Namjae Jeon
-kernel@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: -Original Message- From: Vyacheslav

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: -Original Message- From: Namjae Jeon [mailto:linkinj...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
...@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system Hi, On Oct 7, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: -Original Message- From: Marco

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-08 Thread Namjae Jeon
-kernel@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system 2012/10/8, Jaegeuk Kim jaegeuk@samsung.com: -Original Message- From: Namjae Jeon

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-07 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
l Viro; ty...@mit.edu; >> gre...@linuxfoundation.org; >> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; >> jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; >> linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system >>

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-07 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
Hi, On Oct 7, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: > 2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: >> Hi Jaegeuk, > > Hi. > We know each other, right? :) > Yes, you are correct. :-) >> >>> From: 김재극 >>> To: v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk, 'Theodore Ts'o' , >>>

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-07 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; > linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system > > Il 06/10/2012 22:06, Jaegeuk Kim ha scritto: > > 2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyach

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-07 Thread Marco Stornelli
Il 06/10/2012 22:06, Jaegeuk Kim ha scritto: 2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: Hi Jaegeuk, Hi. We know each other, right? :) From: 김재극 To: v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk, 'Theodore Ts'o' , gre...@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-07 Thread Marco Stornelli
Il 06/10/2012 22:06, Jaegeuk Kim ha scritto: 2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: Hi Jaegeuk, Hi. We know each other, right? :) From: 김재극 jaegeuk@samsung.com To: v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk, 'Theodore Ts'o' ty...@mit.edu, gre...@linuxfoundation.org,

RE: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-07 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system Il 06/10/2012 22:06, Jaegeuk Kim ha scritto: 2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: Hi Jaegeuk, Hi. We know each other

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-07 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
Hi, On Oct 7, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: 2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: Hi Jaegeuk, Hi. We know each other, right? :) Yes, you are correct. :-) From: 김재극 jaegeuk@samsung.com To: v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk, 'Theodore Ts'o'

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-07 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; chur@samsung.com; cm224@samsung.com; jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com; linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system Il 06/10/2012 22:06, Jaegeuk Kim ha scritto: 2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyacheslav

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-06 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: > Hi Jaegeuk, Hi. We know each other, right? :) > > > From: 김재극 > > To: v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk, 'Theodore Ts'o' , > > gre...@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, > > chur@samsung.com,

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-06 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
Hi Jaegeuk, > From: 김재극 > To: v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk, 'Theodore Ts'o' , > gre...@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, > chur@samsung.com, cm224@samsung.com, jaegeuk@samsung.com, > jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com > Subject: [PATCH 00/16]

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-06 Thread Vyacheslav Dubeyko
Hi Jaegeuk, From: 김재극 jaegeuk@samsung.com To: v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk, 'Theodore Ts'o' ty...@mit.edu, gre...@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, chur@samsung.com, cm224@samsung.com, jaegeuk@samsung.com, jooyoung.hw...@samsung.com Subject:

Re: [PATCH 00/16] f2fs: introduce flash-friendly file system

2012-10-06 Thread Jaegeuk Kim
2012-10-06 (토), 17:54 +0400, Vyacheslav Dubeyko: Hi Jaegeuk, Hi. We know each other, right? :) From: 김재극 jaegeuk@samsung.com To: v...@zeniv.linux.org.uk, 'Theodore Ts'o' ty...@mit.edu, gre...@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,