Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-27 Thread Phillip Susi
Dave Jones wrote: If memory serves correctly, that was circa 2.6.10, back in these commits.. commit a068ea13d1db406e15c346e93530343f6e70184c Author: Len Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun Oct 10 05:21:08 2004 -0400 [ACPI] If BIOS disabled the LAPIC, believe it by default. "lapic" is

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-27 Thread Phillip Susi
Dave Jones wrote: If memory serves correctly, that was circa 2.6.10, back in these commits.. commit a068ea13d1db406e15c346e93530343f6e70184c Author: Len Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Oct 10 05:21:08 2004 -0400 [ACPI] If BIOS disabled the LAPIC, believe it by default. lapic is

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-25 Thread Thomas Gleixner
Chuck, On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 12:38 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > On 09/10/2007 03:44 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: > >> Yes, it has an hpet. And I tried every combination of options I could > >> think of. > > > >> But, even stranger, x86_64 works (only i386 fails.) > > > > x86-64 has quite different

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-25 Thread Thomas Gleixner
Chuck, On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 12:38 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: On 09/10/2007 03:44 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: Yes, it has an hpet. And I tried every combination of options I could think of. But, even stranger, x86_64 works (only i386 fails.) x86-64 has quite different time code (at least

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-24 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 01:08:25PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:08:02AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > I believe that about two years ago we broke something which caused quite a > > large number of people to need noapic. Is that the case with any of your > >

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-24 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 01:08:25PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:08:02AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: I believe that about two years ago we broke something which caused quite a large number of people to need noapic. Is that the case with any of your

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-15 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Saturday, 15 September 2007 09:39, Andrew Morton wrote: > On 06 Sep 2007 13:31:50 +0200 Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Some systems lock up without the noapic option. > > > > Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:08:02AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > I believe that about two years ago we broke something which caused quite a > large number of people to need noapic. Is that the case with any of your > machines? Do you know if they run 2.6.ancient without noapic? My recollection

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-15 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:58:27 +0200 Ingo Oeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 15 September 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: > > There are 48 bugs in bugzilla which mention "noapic" > > > >

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-15 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: > There are 48 bugs in bugzilla which mention "noapic" > >

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-15 Thread Andrew Morton
On 06 Sep 2007 13:31:50 +0200 Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Some systems lock up without the noapic option. > > Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. There are 48 bugs in bugzilla which mention "noapic"

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-15 Thread Andrew Morton
On 06 Sep 2007 13:31:50 +0200 Andi Kleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some systems lock up without the noapic option. Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. There are 48 bugs in bugzilla which mention noapic

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-15 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: There are 48 bugs in bugzilla which mention noapic

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-15 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:58:27 +0200 Ingo Oeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 September 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: There are 48 bugs in bugzilla which mention noapic

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:08:02AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: I believe that about two years ago we broke something which caused quite a large number of people to need noapic. Is that the case with any of your machines? Do you know if they run 2.6.ancient without noapic? My recollection is

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-15 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Saturday, 15 September 2007 09:39, Andrew Morton wrote: On 06 Sep 2007 13:31:50 +0200 Andi Kleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some systems lock up without the noapic option. Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc.

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-13 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 09/10/2007 03:44 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: >> Yes, it has an hpet. And I tried every combination of options I could >> think of. > >> But, even stranger, x86_64 works (only i386 fails.) > > x86-64 has quite different time code (at least until the dyntick patches > currently in mm) > > Obvious

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-13 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 09/10/2007 03:44 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: Yes, it has an hpet. And I tried every combination of options I could think of. But, even stranger, x86_64 works (only i386 fails.) x86-64 has quite different time code (at least until the dyntick patches currently in mm) Obvious thing would

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-10 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 09/10/2007 03:44 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: >> Yes, it has an hpet. And I tried every combination of options I could >> think of. > >> But, even stranger, x86_64 works (only i386 fails.) > > x86-64 has quite different time code (at least until the dyntick patches > currently in mm) > > Obvious

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-10 Thread Andi Kleen
> > Yes, it has an hpet. And I tried every combination of options I could > think of. > > But, even stranger, x86_64 works (only i386 fails.) x86-64 has quite different time code (at least until the dyntick patches currently in mm) Obvious thing would be to diff the boot messages and see if

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-10 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 09/08/2007 01:17 AM, Prakash Punnoor wrote: > On the day of Friday 07 September 2007 Chuck Ebbert hast written: >> On 09/06/2007 07:31 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: >>> Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Some systems lock up without the noapic option. >>> Please find patterns: cpu type,

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-10 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 09/08/2007 01:17 AM, Prakash Punnoor wrote: On the day of Friday 07 September 2007 Chuck Ebbert hast written: On 09/06/2007 07:31 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some systems lock up without the noapic option. Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-10 Thread Andi Kleen
Yes, it has an hpet. And I tried every combination of options I could think of. But, even stranger, x86_64 works (only i386 fails.) x86-64 has quite different time code (at least until the dyntick patches currently in mm) Obvious thing would be to diff the boot messages and see if

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-10 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 09/10/2007 03:44 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: Yes, it has an hpet. And I tried every combination of options I could think of. But, even stranger, x86_64 works (only i386 fails.) x86-64 has quite different time code (at least until the dyntick patches currently in mm) Obvious thing would

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-07 Thread Prakash Punnoor
On the day of Friday 07 September 2007 Chuck Ebbert hast written: > On 09/06/2007 07:31 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Some systems lock up without the noapic option. > > > > Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. > > This is the

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-07 Thread Al Boldi
Chuck Ebbert wrote: > On 09/06/2007 07:31 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Some systems lock up without the noapic option. > > > > Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. > > This is the first one I've actually had in front of me: > >

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-07 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 09/06/2007 07:31 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: > Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Some systems lock up without the noapic option. > > Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. > This is the first one I've actually had in front of me: HP TX1000 notebook

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-07 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 09/06/2007 07:31 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some systems lock up without the noapic option. Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. This is the first one I've actually had in front of me: HP TX1000 notebook Nvidia

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-07 Thread Al Boldi
Chuck Ebbert wrote: On 09/06/2007 07:31 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some systems lock up without the noapic option. Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. This is the first one I've actually had in front of me: HP TX1000

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-07 Thread Prakash Punnoor
On the day of Friday 07 September 2007 Chuck Ebbert hast written: On 09/06/2007 07:31 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some systems lock up without the noapic option. Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. This is the first one I've

Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-06 Thread Andi Kleen
Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some systems lock up without the noapic option. Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. > I found one > that will freeze while trying to set up the timer interrupt. > Passing 'nolapic' makes it freeze just after: > >

Re: Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-06 Thread Andi Kleen
Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some systems lock up without the noapic option. Please find patterns: cpu type, chipsets, mainboard vendors etc. I found one that will freeze while trying to set up the timer interrupt. Passing 'nolapic' makes it freeze just after: Setting up

Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

2007-09-05 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Some systems lock up without the noapic option. I found one that will freeze while trying to set up the timer interrupt. Passing 'nolapic' makes it freeze just after: Setting up timer through ExtINT... works Sometimes it will boot up and then freeze during the startup scripts. Passing the

Why do so many machines need noapic?

2007-09-05 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Some systems lock up without the noapic option. I found one that will freeze while trying to set up the timer interrupt. Passing 'nolapic' makes it freeze just after: Setting up timer through ExtINT... works Sometimes it will boot up and then freeze during the startup scripts. Passing the