Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Alan Cox
> all at the same time). I will *not* have a crippled driver into the Lin= > ux > kernel. If this is going to be policy, fine. But then this policy will = > apply > to ALL drivers equally, not just mine because suddenly Alan realizes he= I've had the others on the list for a while too, jus this

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Jeff Garzik
"Nemosoft Unv." wrote: > On 25-May-01 Alan Cox wrote: > > It breaks apps by doing conversions, and it breaks important apps like H263 > > codecs not silly little camera viewers, because you trash the performance > > This is a NULL argument. First, it doesn´t break anything; I think H263 is >

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Nemosoft Unv.
Greetings, Coalescing two messages in one: On 25-May-01 Alan Cox wrote: > Nope. Its been policy since 2.0. Its both v4l1 and v4l2 policy. In fact its > fairly nonsensical to handle any format conversions in kernel unless the > device outputs a unique format of its own. Oh come on. 2.0 has been

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Erik Mouw
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 03:22:44PM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: > On 25-May-01 Erik Mouw wrote: > > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: > > The format conversion shouldn't be there in the first place. Format > > conversion is policy, so it doesn't belong in kernel. Note

RE: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Dunlap, Randy
> From: Erik Mouw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: > > On 25-May-01 Norbert Preining wrote: > > > According to ac ChangeLog: > > > o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) > > > | It belongs in user space..

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Nemosoft Unv.
Greetings, On 25-May-01 Erik Mouw wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: >> That´s what you get for ripping out the guts of a driver. Have a nice >> day. > > The format conversion shouldn't be there in the first place. Format > conversion is policy, so it

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Erik Mouw
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: > On 25-May-01 Norbert Preining wrote: > > According to ac ChangeLog: > > o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) > > | It belongs in user space.. > > > > This change is included in 2.4.5-pre6, but > >

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Alan Cox
> According to ac ChangeLog: > o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) > | It belongs in user space.. > > This change is included in 2.4.5-pre6, but > drivers/usb/pwc-uncompress.c > still relies on this files: Looks like I managed to send Linus a partial patch only.

RE: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Nemosoft Unv.
Greetings, On 25-May-01 Norbert Preining wrote: > Hi! > > According to ac ChangeLog: > o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) > | It belongs in user space.. > > This change is included in 2.4.5-pre6, but > drivers/usb/pwc-uncompress.c > still relies on this

ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi! According to ac ChangeLog: o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) | It belongs in user space.. This change is included in 2.4.5-pre6, but drivers/usb/pwc-uncompress.c still relies on this files: gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.5.6-packet/include

ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi! According to ac ChangeLog: o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) | It belongs in user space.. This change is included in 2.4.5-pre6, but drivers/usb/pwc-uncompress.c still relies on this files: gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.5.6-packet/include

RE: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Nemosoft Unv.
Greetings, On 25-May-01 Norbert Preining wrote: Hi! According to ac ChangeLog: o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) | It belongs in user space.. This change is included in 2.4.5-pre6, but drivers/usb/pwc-uncompress.c still relies on this files:

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Erik Mouw
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: On 25-May-01 Norbert Preining wrote: According to ac ChangeLog: o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) | It belongs in user space.. This change is included in 2.4.5-pre6, but

RE: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Dunlap, Randy
From: Erik Mouw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: On 25-May-01 Norbert Preining wrote: According to ac ChangeLog: o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) | It belongs in user space.. This

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Erik Mouw
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 03:22:44PM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: On 25-May-01 Erik Mouw wrote: On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: The format conversion shouldn't be there in the first place. Format conversion is policy, so it doesn't belong in kernel. Note for

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Nemosoft Unv.
Greetings, Coalescing two messages in one: On 25-May-01 Alan Cox wrote: Nope. Its been policy since 2.0. Its both v4l1 and v4l2 policy. In fact its fairly nonsensical to handle any format conversions in kernel unless the device outputs a unique format of its own. Oh come on. 2.0 has been

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Jeff Garzik
Nemosoft Unv. wrote: On 25-May-01 Alan Cox wrote: It breaks apps by doing conversions, and it breaks important apps like H263 codecs not silly little camera viewers, because you trash the performance This is a NULL argument. First, it doesn´t break anything; I think H263 is smart to pick

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Nemosoft Unv.
Greetings, On 25-May-01 Erik Mouw wrote: On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Nemosoft Unv. wrote: That´s what you get for ripping out the guts of a driver. Have a nice day. The format conversion shouldn't be there in the first place. Format conversion is policy, so it doesn't belong

Re: ac15 and 2.4.5-pre6, pwc format conversion

2001-05-25 Thread Alan Cox
According to ac ChangeLog: o Rip format conversion out of the pwc driver (me) | It belongs in user space.. This change is included in 2.4.5-pre6, but drivers/usb/pwc-uncompress.c still relies on this files: Looks like I managed to send Linus a partial patch only. My