Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
> I really dropped it because I was getting too many patches, and I don't > realistically think it's a 2.4.0 issue (neither do you, I bet), so I > decided that it's not worth it. Ok. Not a problem. I'll leave it until post 2.4.0 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Alexander Viro
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I really dropped it because I was getting too many patches, and I don't > realistically think it's a 2.4.0 issue (neither do you, I bet), so I > decided that it's not worth it. Umm... Linus, how about a bunch of fixes I've sent to you several times

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Sparc is already sync'ed in my tree, and I'd love for other architectures > > to synch up too (but if it takes a while it's not a major disaster - I > > actually much prefer bugs that cause build failures over other kinds of > > bugs ;). > > So you want

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
> Sparc is already sync'ed in my tree, and I'd love for other architectures > to synch up too (but if it takes a while it's not a major disaster - I > actually much prefer bugs that cause build failures over other kinds of > bugs ;). So you want drivers/gsc again ? I assumed you dropped it as

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Tom Rini wrote: > On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:31:54PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > I'm hoping that most of the fall-out from switching over exclusively to > > the new-style Makefiles will be over in a day or two, at which point > > I'll make a pre2 that is worth

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Tom Rini
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:31:54PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I'm hoping that most of the fall-out from switching over exclusively to > the new-style Makefiles will be over in a day or two, at which point > I'll make a pre2 that is worth announcing. Does this mean other arches will have a

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Oliver Xymoron
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Oliver Xymoron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > A 100ms delay sounds like some interrupt shut up or similar (and then > > > timer handling makes it limp along). > > > > Possibly related datapoint:

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Oliver Xymoron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > A 100ms delay sounds like some interrupt shut up or similar (and then > > timer handling makes it limp along). > > Possibly related datapoint: after several days of uptime, my > 2.4.0-test10pre?

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Oliver Xymoron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: A 100ms delay sounds like some interrupt shut up or similar (and then timer handling makes it limp along). Possibly related datapoint: after several days of uptime, my 2.4.0-test10pre? machine went

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Oliver Xymoron
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: * Oliver Xymoron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: A 100ms delay sounds like some interrupt shut up or similar (and then timer handling makes it limp along). Possibly related datapoint: after several

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Tom Rini
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:31:54PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: I'm hoping that most of the fall-out from switching over exclusively to the new-style Makefiles will be over in a day or two, at which point I'll make a pre2 that is worth announcing. Does this mean other arches will have a

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Tom Rini wrote: On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:31:54PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: I'm hoping that most of the fall-out from switching over exclusively to the new-style Makefiles will be over in a day or two, at which point I'll make a pre2 that is worth announcing.

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
Sparc is already sync'ed in my tree, and I'd love for other architectures to synch up too (but if it takes a while it's not a major disaster - I actually much prefer bugs that cause build failures over other kinds of bugs ;). So you want drivers/gsc again ? I assumed you dropped it as you

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: Sparc is already sync'ed in my tree, and I'd love for other architectures to synch up too (but if it takes a while it's not a major disaster - I actually much prefer bugs that cause build failures over other kinds of bugs ;). So you want

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Alexander Viro
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: I really dropped it because I was getting too many patches, and I don't realistically think it's a 2.4.0 issue (neither do you, I bet), so I decided that it's not worth it. Umm... Linus, how about a bunch of fixes I've sent to you several times

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
I really dropped it because I was getting too many patches, and I don't realistically think it's a 2.4.0 issue (neither do you, I bet), so I decided that it's not worth it. Ok. Not a problem. I'll leave it until post 2.4.0 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Oliver Xymoron
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > Any idea if these issues would cause a general slow-down of a > > machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 > > everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables)

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > A 100ms delay sounds like some interrupt shut up or similar (and then > > timer handling makes it limp along). > > Hmm, it's happening on all interfaces. Ok, never mind me then. It's not an

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > This go around I compiled everything into the kernel, actually. > > If it would be useful I can compile them as modules reboot and then see > > what happens... > > Even when compiled into

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > Any idea if these issues would cause a general slow-down of a > > machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 > > everything going through my firewall (set up using

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: > > This go around I compiled everything into the kernel, actually. > If it would be useful I can compile them as modules reboot and then see > what happens... Even when compiled into the kernel, you might just ifdown/ifup the device. That will

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Alan Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 > > everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables) I got about > > 100ms time added on to pings and traceroutes. I'll probably reboot the > > machine tonight and see if that

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: > > Any idea if these issues would cause a general slow-down of a > machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 > everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables) I got about > 100ms time added on to pings and

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
> machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 > everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables) I got about > 100ms time added on to pings and traceroutes. I'll probably reboot the > machine tonight and see if that helps. Before you do that can you see if

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Especially if we get that netfilter problem sorted out (see the other > thread about the IP fragmentation issues associated with that one), and > if we figure out why apparently some people have trouble with external > modules (at least one person

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted >changelog for test13-pre1? Nothing's posted at kernel.org yet, either. The test13-pre1 changes are almost exclusively a radical Makefile cleanup, and it's

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Marty Pitts
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Riley wrote: > > > Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted > > changelog for test13-pre1? Nothing's posted at kernel.org yet, either. > > > > I musta missed the post too... But then again I

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Jeff Garzik
The test13-pre1 changelog was something along the lines of "alright, I am sick of this Makefile crap. I fixed some, clean up the rest." ;-) -- Jeff Garzik | Building 1024 | These are not the J's you're lookin' for. MandrakeSoft| It's an old Jedi

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Frank Davis
Hello, Linus didn't annnounce test13-pre1 as far as I am aware of. Regards, Frank --On Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:11 PM -0800 "Dr. Kelsey Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Riley wrote: > >> Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted >>

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Dr. Kelsey Hudson
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Riley wrote: > Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted > changelog for test13-pre1? Nothing's posted at kernel.org yet, either. > I musta missed the post too... But then again I went back and looked for it and couldnt find it so... i'd like

test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread David Riley
Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted changelog for test13-pre1? Nothing's posted at kernel.org yet, either. -- "Windows for Dummies? Isn't that redundant?" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL

test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread David Riley
Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted changelog for test13-pre1? Nothing's posted at kernel.org yet, either. -- "Windows for Dummies? Isn't that redundant?" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Dr. Kelsey Hudson
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Riley wrote: Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted changelog for test13-pre1? Nothing's posted at kernel.org yet, either. I musta missed the post too... But then again I went back and looked for it and couldnt find it so... i'd like to

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Frank Davis
Hello, Linus didn't annnounce test13-pre1 as far as I am aware of. Regards, Frank --On Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:11 PM -0800 "Dr. Kelsey Hudson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Riley wrote: Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted changelog

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Jeff Garzik
The test13-pre1 changelog was something along the lines of "alright, I am sick of this Makefile crap. I fixed some, clean up the rest." ;-) -- Jeff Garzik | Building 1024 | These are not the J's you're lookin' for. MandrakeSoft| It's an old Jedi

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Marty Pitts
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Riley wrote: Did I miss a post from Linus on the list, or is there no posted changelog for test13-pre1? Nothing's posted at kernel.org yet, either. I musta missed the post too... But then again I went back and

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Especially if we get that netfilter problem sorted out (see the other thread about the IP fragmentation issues associated with that one), and if we figure out why apparently some people have trouble with external modules (at least one person has

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Alan Cox
machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables) I got about 100ms time added on to pings and traceroutes. I'll probably reboot the machine tonight and see if that helps. Before you do that can you see if ifconfig

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: Any idea if these issues would cause a general slow-down of a machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables) I got about 100ms time added on to pings and

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Alan Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables) I got about 100ms time added on to pings and traceroutes. I'll probably reboot the machine tonight and see if that helps.

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: This go around I compiled everything into the kernel, actually. If it would be useful I can compile them as modules reboot and then see what happens... Even when compiled into the kernel, you might just ifdown/ifup the device. That will

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: Any idea if these issues would cause a general slow-down of a machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables) I

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: This go around I compiled everything into the kernel, actually. If it would be useful I can compile them as modules reboot and then see what happens... Even when compiled into the kernel,

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: * Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: A 100ms delay sounds like some interrupt shut up or similar (and then timer handling makes it limp along). Hmm, it's happening on all interfaces. Ok, never mind me then. It's not an

Re: test13-pre1 changelog

2000-12-14 Thread Oliver Xymoron
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stephen Frost wrote: Any idea if these issues would cause a general slow-down of a machine? For no apparent reason after 5 days running 2.4.0test12 everything going through my firewall (set up using iptables) I got