Re: wierd file perms
ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 An fsck did it :) and had the source restored by checkout -f Think Jan is right, there is a diff between the two... On 10/15/07, Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: > >> Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> wrote: > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: > > total 0 > ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs > > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms > or ownership even as root. > >>> Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. > >> No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory > >> has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. > > > > Er, close. > > > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a > > /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied > > total 0 > > -? ? ? ? ?? b > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version > > ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 > > > > > > There is a difference .. "-?" vs "?-". > > That's just a version difference for GNU ls. > Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: > > ?- ? ? ? ?? a/b > > > -- -- "Why is it that every time I'm with you, makes me believe in magic?" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. "-?" vs "?-". That's just a version difference for GNU ls. Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: ?- ? ? ? ?? a/b - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: > Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: >> On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: >> > >> > total 0 >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs >> > >> > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms >> > or ownership even as root. >> >> Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. > > No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory > has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. "-?" vs "?-". The first looks to me like "filetype known (S_IFREG)", while the latter is "filetype and mode unknown". - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Sun, 2007-10-14 09:29:01 -0400, Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > vignesh babu wrote: > .. > >?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c > >?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c > >?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c > >?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c > >?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs > > > >So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms > >or ownership even as root. > > > >Can some one help please? > > chmod a+x name_of_directory > > Now you can do "ls -l" and "rm" or whatever. *cough* The original mail you're replying to had this inside: > > I was hitting another issue with permissions-as root :( > > I really think he better starts a fsck... Soon. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-172-7608481 Signature of: Wenn ich wach bin, träume ich. the second : signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wierd file perms
vignesh babu wrote: .. ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Can some one help please? chmod a+x name_of_directory Now you can do "ls -l" and "rm" or whatever. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Eg. mkdir a touch a/b chmod 644 a ls -l a Try it! Cheers - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Oct 14 2007 14:30, Bauke Jan Douma wrote: >> On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: >> > >> > total 0 >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs >> > >> > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms >> > or ownership even as root. >> >> Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. > > I don't think this is a bug, but a feature of 'ls', see for instance > the coreutils mailing list: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2007-05/msg00226.html - broken on-disk fs - you are not allowed to stat() -- which can only reasonably happen with FUSE or remote filesystems - ls also outputs ?- if the file mode does not make sense, though as we can see, UID/GID nlink, etc. are also missing, so I suspect item 2. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote on 13-10-07 19:28: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. MfG, JBG I don't think this is a bug, but a feature of 'ls', see for instance the coreutils mailing list: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2007-05/msg00226.html bjd - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote on 13-10-07 19:28: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. MfG, JBG I don't think this is a bug, but a feature of 'ls', see for instance the coreutils mailing list: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2007-05/msg00226.html bjd - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Oct 14 2007 14:30, Bauke Jan Douma wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. I don't think this is a bug, but a feature of 'ls', see for instance the coreutils mailing list: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2007-05/msg00226.html - broken on-disk fs - you are not allowed to stat() -- which can only reasonably happen with FUSE or remote filesystems - ls also outputs ?- if the file mode does not make sense, though as we can see, UID/GID nlink, etc. are also missing, so I suspect item 2. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Eg. mkdir a touch a/b chmod 644 a ls -l a Try it! Cheers - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
vignesh babu wrote: .. ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Can some one help please? chmod a+x name_of_directory Now you can do ls -l and rm or whatever. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Sun, 2007-10-14 09:29:01 -0400, Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vignesh babu wrote: .. ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Can some one help please? chmod a+x name_of_directory Now you can do ls -l and rm or whatever. *cough* The original mail you're replying to had this inside: I was hitting another issue with permissions-as root :( I really think he better starts a fsck... Soon. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-172-7608481 Signature of: Wenn ich wach bin, träume ich. the second : signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wierd file perms
On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. -? vs ?-. The first looks to me like filetype known (S_IFREG), while the latter is filetype and mode unknown. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. -? vs ?-. That's just a version difference for GNU ls. Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: ?- ? ? ? ?? a/b - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 An fsck did it :) and had the source restored by checkout -f Think Jan is right, there is a diff between the two... On 10/15/07, Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. -? vs ?-. That's just a version difference for GNU ls. Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: ?- ? ? ? ?? a/b -- -- Why is it that every time I'm with you, makes me believe in magic? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: > > total 0 > ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs > > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms > or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-172-7608481 Signature of: Zensur im Internet? Nein danke! the second : signature.asc Description: Digital signature
wierd file perms
Hi all, Was having trouble with the latest source-in compiling it and did an mrproper which fixed things...well-temporarily. I was hitting another issue with permissions-as root :( I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Can some one help please? How did this even happen? I could compile without any issues till yesterday and todays update seems to have caused this... Not really sure if it is just a local phenomenon -- -- "Why is it that every time I'm with you, makes me believe in magic?" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
wierd file perms
Hi all, Was having trouble with the latest source-in compiling it and did an mrproper which fixed things...well-temporarily. I was hitting another issue with permissions-as root :( I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Can some one help please? How did this even happen? I could compile without any issues till yesterday and todays update seems to have caused this... Not really sure if it is just a local phenomenon -- -- Why is it that every time I'm with you, makes me believe in magic? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-172-7608481 Signature of: Zensur im Internet? Nein danke! the second : signature.asc Description: Digital signature