Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread David Ford
I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed. xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls. If I get the time to do it, I'll take a gander at it with kdb. I have no patches applied to

Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill
"David S. Miller" wrote: Chris Wedgwood writes: On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:34:47AM -0800, David S. Miller wrote: That's it, in 4 weeks time I am putting a kernel onto vger.kernel.org that speaks ECN. This is my official and only warning. Why wait 4 weeks at

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill
Every single connection to ECN-broken sites would work as normal - it would just take an extra few seconds. Instead of "Hotmail doesn't work!" it becomes "Hrm... Hotmail is fscking slow, but Yahoo is fine. I'll use Yahoo". A few million of those, and suddenly Hotmail isn't so hot... I think

Re: patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill
Stefani Seibold wrote: Hi Linus, Hi Alan, Hi everybody, this kernel patch allows to disable all printk messages, by overloading the printk function with a dummy printk macro. This patch is usefull for embedded systems, where the hardware never changes and normaly no textconsole is

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill
Hotmails failing machines, for example, send RST packets back when they see ECN. Ignoring valid TCP RST frames is unacceptable and Linux will not do that as long as I am maintaining it. Whadda word! --- Woah... I did a "cat /boot/vmlinuz /dev/audio" - and I think I heard god... - To

Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill
Don't they understand that Linux is actually a system that is growing to be very popular? That's why they ignore and don't support it. Thunder --- Woah... I did a "cat /boot/vmlinuz /dev/audio" - and I think I heard god... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

hdd: set_drive_speed_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekCompleteError }

2001-01-27 Thread Jacob Luna Lundberg
I've been getting this during the boot sequence for quite some time now. They don't seem to impact the functionality of the drive any though. Just another extra-verbose kernel message I should ignore? :) (This is from the 2.4.1-pre10 btw.) hdd: CD-ROM TW 120D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd:

spurious IRQ complaints

2001-01-27 Thread David Ford
PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 01:00.0. Please try using pci=biosirq. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 0008 Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel,

Re: hdd: set_drive_speed_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekCompleteError }

2001-01-27 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Jacob Luna Lundberg wrote: I've been getting this during the boot sequence for quite some time now. They don't seem to impact the functionality of the drive any though. Just another extra-verbose kernel message I should ignore? :) (This is from the 2.4.1-pre10

Re: Running 2.4.0-ac11

2001-01-27 Thread Matti LĂ„ngvall
Jens Axboe wrote: On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Matti Lngvall wrote: Best developers, I was told to send you these lines by Mr. Marcelo Tosatti, they appear even though there is no CD in any drive. System:P3 733, VIA chips, 2 HD IDE drives, DVD and CD-R Jan 26 23:44:16 h-10-26-17-2

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread Shawn Starr
Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm... David Ford wrote: I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed. xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls. If I get the time to do it,

[PROBLEM]: Under 2.4.X hdparm displays device names backwards? ;)

2001-01-27 Thread Shawn Starr
This is what the device names are: hda: FUJITSU MPE3064AT, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC AC32500H, ATA DISK drive here's what they are with hdparm: dev/hda: Model=UFIJST UPM3E60A4 T , FwRev=DE0--380, SerialNo=50256499 /dev/hdb: Model=DW CCA2305H0

Re: [PROBLEM]: Under 2.4.X hdparm displays device names backwards?;)

2001-01-27 Thread davej
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Shawn Starr wrote: This is what the device names are: hda: FUJITSU MPE3064AT, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC AC32500H, ATA DISK drive here's what they are with hdparm: Model=UFIJST UPM3E60A4 T , FwRev=DE0--380, Model=DW CCA2305H0

Re: [NOT PROBLEM]: Under 2.4.X hdparm displays device names backwards?;)

2001-01-27 Thread Shawn Starr
Oh, I never noticed that though. Yes, -i does display it correctly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Shawn Starr wrote: This is what the device names are: hda: FUJITSU MPE3064AT, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC AC32500H, ATA DISK drive here's what they are with hdparm:

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 04:59:13PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: No... Microsoft learned, just two days ago, something that has been part of best practices for over 15 years. Do NOT put all of your DNS servers on the same network! The technical error may have triggered the

Re: [PROBLEM]: Under 2.4.X hdparm displays device names backwards? ;)

2001-01-27 Thread David Ford
-I is what is read directly off the drive, -i interprets it. IIRC, it's been this way for a while..or it's just that I've used 2.4 for a while :) In any case, it's byte swap issue. WD becomes "WDC AC" would become "DW CCA" , i.e. "WD", "C ", and "AC" etc. -d Shawn Starr wrote: This is

Re: ECN -? Anything _I_ need to do to allow it?

2001-01-27 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 05:47:14PM -0600, List User wrote: I run a small ISP for my local community and have read some reports about hotmail not supporting it et al. I don't want to be in a position where MY site doesn't support this if it's the correct thing to do. Is there anything

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Rogier Wolff
H. Peter Anvin wrote: "David S. Miller" wrote: H. Peter Anvin writes: Last I communicated with them, I looked for a reference like that in the standards RFCs so I could quote chapter and verse at the Hotmail people, but I couldn't find it. RFC793, where is lists the unused

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-27 Thread Ion Badulescu
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:19:01 +1100, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The figures I quoted for the no-hw-checksum case were still using scatter/gather. That can be turned off as well and it makes it a tiny bit quicker. Hmm. Are you sure the differences are not just noise? Unless you

Looking for comparison data on network stack prowess

2001-01-27 Thread David Ford
noflame=1 I'm looking for some authoritative comparisons and discussions of the current network stacks in *BSD and Linux. I.e. NET4 in Linux and whatever is most current in *BSD. _PLEASE_ no flaming, no causing flamewar, nadda. I am writing an article for Linux.com and I am attempting to

Re: [PATCH/REQ] Increase kmsg buffer from 16K to 32K, kernel/printk.c

2001-01-27 Thread Ion Badulescu
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:01:14 +, David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Linus or anyone object to raising the ksmg buffer from 16K to 32K? 4/5 systems I have now overflow the buffer during boot before init is even launched. Hmm, are you sure? man dmesg: [...] -sbufsize

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-27 Thread Andrew Morton
Ion Badulescu wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:19:01 +1100, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The figures I quoted for the no-hw-checksum case were still using scatter/gather. That can be turned off as well and it makes it a tiny bit quicker. Hmm. Are you sure the differences are

Re: 2.4 cpu usage...

2001-01-27 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! So...I'm bummed. I'm assuming a 30% degradation in an app is probably not expected behavior? Swap usage is '0' in both OS's (i.e. it's not a run out of memory issue). Vmware is _not_ application, it is dirty kernel hack. Do it without vmware.

Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-27 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! Is read access safe ? Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY nothing can happen to it in any way, your NTFS data is at least safe. Isn't it still theoretcially possible for the driver to send commands to the disk controller that cause data to

Re: Hercules Graphics Card

2001-01-27 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! I'm too using this, mostly because I like it, got up with it, and it's better than those pixelled displays today. And who needs colours? For me, it says (2.4.0-prerelease) I'd got a HGC with 8 kB of RAM. This surely isn't true because under DOS some pgmz work problemless which use the

Re: [PATCH](s): Use spinlocks instead of STI/CLI in SoundBlaster

2001-01-27 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! I hear on the grapevine that 2.4 kernel modules should use spinlocks in preference to cli() and sti(). Well I'm not sure how big a win it is, particularly on a UP machine, but here's a patch for the SoundBlaster. I've added a spinlock_t to the "struct b_devc" so that multiple

Re: patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-27 Thread Stefani Seibold
You are right... this patch make no sense on a computer system with human interactions. But think on tiny hidden computers, like in a dishwasher or a traffic light. This computer are standalone, if it crash, then it will be rebooted. Nobody will attach a terminal to this kind of computer,

[patch] eepro100 driver fixes

2001-01-27 Thread Andrey Savochkin
Hello, Here is a patch with important eepro100 fixes for 2.4 kernel: - Big-endian fixes (double cpu-bus conversion). - "card reports no resources" hardware timing bug workaround. Thanks to Donald Becker. It may also fix a problem with "wait_for_cmd_done timeout" symptom. Best regards

Re: no such 386 instruction with gcc 2.95.2

2001-01-27 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! I think I must need to upgrade my assembler, but: 2.4.0/Documentation/Changes does not list an assembler version. make[2]: Entering directory `/mnt/sdb2/src/linux-2.4.0/drivers/md' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/mnt/sdb2/src/linux-2.4.0/include -Wall -Wstrict-proto types -O2

Re: vfat - vfat copying of ~700MB file, so slow!

2001-01-27 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! Copying between vfat - vfat partitions is so slow. It seems that it's vfat/msdos kernel driver problem because I tried to copy I reported this years ago, with a 700 kB file on a floppy and a 4 MB file on a Zip disk. In both cases mcopy was several times faster than the kernel code.

Re: [PATCH](s): Use spinlocks instead of STI/CLI in SoundBlaster

2001-01-27 Thread Chris Rankin
--- linux-2.4.0/drivers/sound/sb.h.orig Fri Jan 26 13:57:40 2001 +++ linux-2.4.0/drivers/sound/sb.h Fri Jan 26 13:58:42 2001 @@ -137,6 +137,8 @@ void (*midi_input_intr) (int dev, unsigned char data); void *midi_irq_cookie; /* IRQ cookie for the midi */

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac12

2001-01-27 Thread Peter Kaczuba
On 2001-01-27 1:46:12 "Sergey Kubushin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modules still don't load: === Cut === ide-mod.o: Can't handle sections of type 32131 ide-probe-mod.o: Can't handle sections of type 256950710 ide-disk.o: Can't handle sections of type 688840897 ext2.o: Can't handle sections of

Re: Running 2.4.0-ac11

2001-01-27 Thread Jens Axboe
On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Matti Lngvall wrote: Jan 26 23:44:57 h-10-26-17-2 kernel: VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jan 26 23:45:29 h-10-26-17-2 last message repeated 32 times Jan 26 23:46:31 h-10-26-17-2 last message repeated 62 times Jan 26 23:47:32 h-10-26-17-2 last message repeated

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac12

2001-01-27 Thread Keith Owens
--- Blind-Carbon-Copy X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 From: Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Kaczuba [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: "Sergey Kubushin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac12 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:06:57 BST." [EMAIL

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread John Sheahan
I have not compiled or used reiserfs here yet. compiling Mikes semaphore debug patch now and adding sysrq - but this took three days to happen just once here. ..john Shawn Starr wrote: Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: [PATCH/REQ] Increase kmsg buffer from 16K to 32K, kernel/printk.c

2001-01-27 Thread David Ford
Ion Badulescu wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:01:14 +, David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Linus or anyone object to raising the ksmg buffer from 16K to 32K? 4/5 systems I have now overflow the buffer during boot before init is even launched. Hmm, are you sure? man dmesg: [...]

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-27 Thread jamal
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Andrew Morton wrote: (Please keep netdev copied, else Jamal will grump at you, and you don't want that). Thanks, Andrew ;- Isnt netdev where networking stuff should be discussed? I think i give up and will join lk, RSN ;- The kernels which were tested were

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-27 Thread jamal
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Ion Badulescu wrote: 750MHz PIII, Adaptec Starfire NIC, driver modified to use hardware sg+csum (both Tx/Rx), and Intel i82559 (eepro100), no hardware csum support, vanilla driver. The box has 512MB of RAM, and I'm using a 100MB file, so it's entirely cached.

Re: hdd: set_drive_speed_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }

2001-01-27 Thread Jens Axboe
On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: I've been getting this during the boot sequence for quite some time now. They don't seem to impact the functionality of the drive any though. Just another extra-verbose kernel message I should ignore? :) (This is from the 2.4.1-pre10 btw.)

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-27 Thread Andrew Morton
jamal wrote: .. It is also useful to have both client and server stats. BTW, since the laptop (with the 3C card) is the client, the SG shouldnt kick in at all. The `client' here is doing the sendfiling, so yes, the gathering occurs on the client. ... The test tool is, of course,

Re: System hangs completely

2001-01-27 Thread Scott M. Hoffman
Have you tried it with the modutiles 2.4.0 required by kernel 2.4.0? Dale Christ wrote: Snip [7.1.] Software: -- Versions installed: (if some fields are empty or look -- unusual then possibly you have very old versions) Linux localhost.localdomain 2.4.0i586 #9 Fri Jan 26 15:07:33 CST 2001 i586

Re: System hangs completely

2001-01-27 Thread Jens Axboe
On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Scott M. Hoffman wrote: Have you tried it with the modutiles 2.4.0 required by kernel 2.4.0? It's more serious than that, MO drives and 2.4.x are no quite getting along yet in general... -- * Jens Axboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] * SuSE Labs - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-27 Thread jamal
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Andrew Morton wrote: jamal wrote: .. It is also useful to have both client and server stats. BTW, since the laptop (with the 3C card) is the client, the SG shouldnt kick in at all. The `client' here is doing the sendfiling, so yes, the gathering occurs on the

Re: es1371 freezes 2.4.0 hard

2001-01-27 Thread Jeff Garzik
David Bustos wrote: Quoth Jeff Garzik on Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:24:13AM -0500: What happens if you remove the call to pci_enable_device() in the source code, drivers/sound/es1371.c? That seems to do it. Ok. For a temporary fix, there ya go. But removing pci_enable_device is incorrect;

VM breakdown, 2.4.0 family

2001-01-27 Thread Ed Tomlinson
David Ford Wrote: Since the testN series and up through ac12, I experience total loss of control when memory is nearly exhausted. I start with 256M and eat it up with programs until there is only about 7 megs left, no swap. From that point all user processes stall and the disk begins to grind

Re: no such 386 instruction with gcc 2.95.2

2001-01-27 Thread Jakob Schroeter
Hi! I have a similar problem when compiling recent 2.4.0-ac or 2.4.1-pre kernels: gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=i686-c -o i387.o i387.c {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard

Re: spurious IRQ complaints

2001-01-27 Thread John Cavan
David Ford wrote: PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 01:00.0. Please try using pci=biosirq. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 0008 Flags: bus master,

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Frank v Waveren
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:10:48AM +, David Wagner wrote: Practice being really, really paranoid. Think: You're designing a firewall; you've got some reserved bits, currently unused; any future code that uses them could behave in completely arbitrary and insecure ways, for all you know.

Re: Linux 2.2.16 through 2.2.18preX TCP hang bug triggered by rsync

2001-01-27 Thread kuznet
Hello! Why is it a bug to accept the ACK from it? RFC793 page 69 says If the RCV.WND is zero, no segments will be acceptable, but special allowance should be made to accept valid ACKs, URGs and RSTs. 8) This obscure place is discussed for ages. The question is: What is

Re: [UPDATE] Zerocopy patches, against 2.4.1-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread kuznet
Hello! verify this? The only way I can think of is to verify that the checksum field is zero initially, correct? It is not zero. It contains checksum of pseudoheader. fits the new Linux model a bit better, as it has one descriptor per packet, not one per fragment (like the current

Re: routing between different subnets on same if.

2001-01-27 Thread patrick . mourlhon
Hi I just think you might look at aliasing on the linux box.. ifconfig eth0:0 ... this might help you do the think, regards, patrick mourlhon On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Paul Jakma wrote: i'm trying to get linux to do routing between 2 different subnets that are on the same physical interface,

SBF queueing?

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
Has anyone decided to code a SFB (Stochastic Fair Blue) queue implementation for Linux? It's been implemented for FreeBSD/ALTQ (http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~wuchang/blue/). The paper for it shows it performing very well in comparison to RED. It might be useful in a Linux implementation to be able

Re: routing between different subnets on same if.

2001-01-27 Thread patrick . mourlhon
did you install routed on the linux machine ? On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Paul Jakma wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, I just think you might look for aliasing on your linux box. i have the aliasing, the aliased machine can ping IP's on both subnets. The

Re: SBF queueing?

2001-01-27 Thread patrick . mourlhon
Hi Gregory! You might have a look on linux/Documentation/networking/policy-routing.txt I think this was down by Alexey Kuznetov You might have a look to iproute + tc and HOWTO on advanced networking patrick mourlhon On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: Has anyone decided to code a

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Think of yourself as a firewall author now. You come across this, and go, "these bits aren't used now; this means noone should be setting them. I have no guarantee that anything in the future isn't going to use these bits for something that isn't

[ANNOUNCE] Kernel Janitor's TODO list

2001-01-27 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Hi, The kernel Janitor's TODO list is updated at http://bazar.conectiva.com.br/~acme/TODO, lots of things to do to get rid of old cruft, make sure that resources are properly used, etc, please take a look and help! Please send additions and corrections to me and I'll try to keep it

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread J Sloan
Just for the record, the system where I saw the problem has only ext2 - jjs Shawn Starr wrote: Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm... David Ford wrote: I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:18:09PM +0100, Frank v Waveren wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:10:48AM +, David Wagner wrote: Practice being really, really paranoid. Think: You're designing a firewall; you've got some reserved bits, currently unused; any future code that uses them could

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Frank v Waveren
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 02:20:32PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: Why? Why not just zero them, and get both security and compatibility... Eeek! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! For ECN that would have worked, but that doesn't mean that something couldn't have been implimented there that wouldn't

Re: SBF queueing?

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:52:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gregory! You might have a look on linux/Documentation/networking/policy-routing.txt I think this was down by Alexey Kuznetov Thanks for the quick reply. But that's not exactly what I was looking for. I was trying to find

Re: hdd: set_drive_speed_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekCompleteError }

2001-01-27 Thread Jacob Luna Lundberg
I gave it a whirl. Sadly, no change. On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote: My gut tells me that this is the 'get last written' command, and even with the quiet flag we get the IDE error status printed. Could you try and add goto use_toc; add the top of

Re: routing between different subnets on same if.

2001-01-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Paul Jakma wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, I just think you might look for aliasing on your linux box. i have the aliasing, the aliased machine can ping IP's on both subnets.

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kernel boot problems

2001-01-27 Thread Ryan Hairyes
Hello all, I was wondering if someone might be able to help me. I have just compiled my kernel and set it up on a floppy to boot off a disk. I have it then use an image file to uncompress and get the filesystem off ,etc. Well when it boots it says it has uncompressed the filesystem image and

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Jamie Lokier
Gregory Maxwell wrote: Why? Why not just zero them, and get both security and compatibility... Eeek! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! For ECN that would have worked, but that doesn't mean that something couldn't have been implimented there that wouldn't have worked that way.. I think that

Re: hdd: set_drive_speed_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekCompleteError }

2001-01-27 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote: On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: I've been getting this during the boot sequence for quite some time now. They don't seem to impact the functionality of the drive any though. Just another extra-verbose kernel message I should ignore? :)

Re: SBF queueing?

2001-01-27 Thread kuznet
Hello! Has anyone decided to code a SFB (Stochastic Fair Blue) queue implementation for Linux? I did not hear anything about this. (http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~wuchang/blue/). The paper for it shows it performing very well in comparison to RED. Yes, the algorithm looks interesting. Alexey

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 08:58:51PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: [snip] I think that older Checkpoint firewalls (perhaps current?) zeroed out SACK on 'hide nat'ed connections. This causes unreasonable stalls for users on SACK enabled clients. Not cool. If both SACK and SACK_PERMITTED were

Re: the remount problem [2.4.0] kind of solved [patch]

2001-01-27 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Wichert Akkerman writes: Previously Goswin Brederlow wrote: Maybe the kernel coud swap in the deleted libraries and keep it in memory or real swap from then on instead of blocking the fs. No, you have no idea how large the file might grow and you need to keep that data somewhere. Grow? It

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-27 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:05:54PM -0200, Rodrigo Barbosa (aka morcego) wrote: I think JFS indeed doesn't have it. And ReiserFS doesn't too. This should be common place for journaling filesystems. No, it's nothing to do with journaling or not. Even journaling filesystems can suffer IO

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-27 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Rogier Wolff wrote: H. Peter Anvin wrote: Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:"Ian S. Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel I'm curious. Why does Linux make that friendly 98/9a/88 looking postcode pattern when it's running? DOS and DOS95 don't do

check_dis(c|k)_change(|d): duplicated code

2001-01-27 Thread Yann Droneaud
I was looking up linux code to find why /proc/partitions report 'hdc' instead of 'ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd' example: major minor #blocks name 8 01048575 scsi/host0/bus0/target6/lun0/disc 3 03140928 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 3 1 4000

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-27 Thread Rogier Wolff
H. Peter Anvin wrote: Rogier Wolff wrote: H. Peter Anvin wrote: It output garbage to the 80h port in order to enforce I/O delays. It's one of the safe ports to issue outs to. Yes, because it is reserved for POST codes. You can get "POST debugging cards" that simply have a BIN -

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-27 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 01/26/01 01:19 PM James Lewis Nance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW IBM's JFS file system does not have a lost+found directory. I dont remember if reiserfs does or not. Actually it does. From one of my rs/6000's sitting here, with a pretty much default AIX

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:33:42AM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote: Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm... I don't. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-27 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Rogier Wolff wrote: You seem to state that if you want POST codes, you should find a different port, modify the code, test the hell out of it, and then submit the patch. That is NOT the right way to go about this: Port 0x80 is RESERVED for POST usage, that's why it's always free. If

Re: [UPDATE] Zerocopy patches, against 2.4.1-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread Ion Badulescu
Hi Alexey, On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fits the new Linux model a bit better, as it has one descriptor per packet, not one per fragment (like the current implementation). Yes. Absence of such mode with acenic is big pain in ass. And, at least for the starfire, using

Re: es1371 freezes 2.4.0 hard

2001-01-27 Thread David Bustos
Quoth Jeff Garzik on Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 09:22:45AM -0500: [...] But removing pci_enable_device is incorrect; it merely avoids what appears to be a bug with your Via irq routing. Would it be possible for you to edit linux/arch/i386/kernel/pci-i386.h, and change the line near the top from

Re: kernel boot problems

2001-01-27 Thread Joe deBlaquiere
A few things come to mind: 1. Is your init statically linked or linked with shared libraries? If it's shared, do you have all the shared objects on your disk image in a place where they can be found (/lib, I hope)? You might try linking it statically (but stripped) just to make sure. 2. Is

Re: routing between different subnets on same if.

2001-01-27 Thread Paul Jakma
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you install routed on the linux machine ? no i have my routes statically set, but that wouldn't make a difference. Routed just adds/deletes entries from the kernel table as neccessary and lets the kernel do the forwarding as neccessary. so it'd

Re: routing between different subnets on same if.

2001-01-27 Thread Paul Jakma
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Did you enable forwarding with echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ? yes. the machine already routes correctly between the 2 subnets and the internet which is on a seperate interface. i also disabled

RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread David Schwartz
Firewalling should be implemented on the hosts, perhaps with centralized policy management. In such a situation, there would be no reason to filter on funny IP options. That's madness. If you have to implement your firewalling on every host, what do you do when someone wants to run a

Re: patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-27 Thread Stefani Seibold
Hi guys, thanks for the feedback. This is now the second try of my disable printk patch. First i moved the option for disabling the prinbtk messages form the menu character devices to kernel hacking. Second, i had change the macro so it calls now a inline funciton printk_inline which always

Re: Looking for comparison data on network stack prowess

2001-01-27 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David Ford writes: I'm looking for some authoritative comparisons and discussions of the current network stacks in *BSD and Linux. I.e. NET4 in Linux and whatever is most current in *BSD. _PLEASE_ no flaming, no causing flamewar, nadda. I am writing an article for Linux.com and I am

[PATCH] dynamic IP support for 2.4.0 (SIOCKILLADDR)

2001-01-27 Thread John Fremlin
When the IP address of an interface changes, TCP connections with the old source address are useless. Applications are not notified of this and time out ordinarily, just as if nothing had happened. This is behaviour isn't very helpful when you have a dynamic IP and know you're probably not going

CBQ simply doesn't work

2001-01-27 Thread clock
I can't get the CBQ running on 2.2.17. Alexey look like he doesn't reply to his mails. I made one more man to check it over me. We both can't find a problem. The file with config info is attached. Eager for any idea Clock This is an excerpt from the kernel configuration: [*] QoS

RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, David Schwartz wrote: Firewalling should be implemented on the hosts, perhaps with centralized policy management. In such a situation, there would be no reason to filter on funny IP options. That's madness. If you have to implement your firewalling on every

Re: routing between different subnets on same if.

2001-01-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Did you enable forwarding with echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ? yes. the machine already routes correctly between the 2 subnets and the internet which is on a seperate

Re: VM breakdown, 2.4.0 family

2001-01-27 Thread David Ford
I have Marcelo's patch. It isn't applicable because I am purposely not enabling any swap. The problem is the system gets down to about 7 megs of buffers free and within three seconds has become functionally dead. Zero response on any user input/output device save the magic key. The system

Re: CBQ simply doesn't work

2001-01-27 Thread patrick . mourlhon
#!/bin/bash /sbin/insmod cls_fw /sbin/insmod sch_prio /sbin/insmod sch_cbq /sbin/insmod cls__u32 myne here is cls_u32 insmod: a module named sch_cbq already exists insmod: cls__u32: no module by that name found but i use 2.4... and i just feel your classifier cannot work anymore...

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread David Ford
At the time I had temporary access to my notebook and had a mismatched System.map file :S -d Linus Torvalds wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or mpegs in xmms. It may take a few

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 02:18:31PM -0800, David Schwartz wrote: Firewalling should be implemented on the hosts, perhaps with centralized policy management. In such a situation, there would be no reason to filter on funny IP options. That's madness. If you have to implement your

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 11:09:27PM +, James Sutherland wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, David Schwartz wrote: Firewalling should be implemented on the hosts, perhaps with centralized policy management. In such a situation, there would be no reason to filter on funny IP options.

ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-27 Thread jamal
Just proves i am not on lk -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:05:38 -0500 (EST) From: jamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ECN: Clearing the air On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:29:51 +, James Sutherland wrote: Except you can't

Re: kernel boot problems

2001-01-27 Thread Derek Benson
Ryan Hello all, Hi Ryan I was wondering if someone might be able to help me. I have Ryan just compiled my kernel and set it up on a floppy to boot off a Ryan disk. I have it then use an image file to uncompress and get Ryan the filesystem off ,etc. Well when it boots it says it has

Re: Probably Off-topic Question...

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill
Mark Smith wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:02:05AM -0700, Thunder from the hill wrote: my vaio F-series used to sleep correctly under RH6.1. it now hangs forever making the sleep mode much less useful. i just push the sleep button. it used to work under RH6.1. under RH7.0

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-27 Thread Thunder from the hill
A file-system without a lost+found directory is like love without sex. You mean, possible but leaving you unsatisfied? Well, I think a file system without a lost+found is a lot worse. Thunder --- Woah... I did a "cat /boot/vmlinuz /dev/audio" - and I think I heard god... - To unsubscribe

Re: ECN: Clearing the air

2001-01-27 Thread jamal
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, jamal wrote: - ECN does not break things. It's brain damaged firewalls, Intrusion detection systems, and load balancers that should be shot. One intrusion detection "expert" was quoted suggesting the blocking of ECN bits should be blocked because "nmap uses them" to

Re: VM breakdown, 2.4.0 family

2001-01-27 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, David Ford wrote: Since the testN series and up through ac12, I experience total loss of control when memory is nearly exhausted. I start with 256M and eat it up with programs until there is only about 7 megs left, no swap. From that point all user processes stall

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-27 Thread Shawn Starr
This system is the following: AcerOPEN AP53/AX Motherboard, Intel Pentium 200Mhz w/o MMX (1996-1997) Chipsets: 430HX, PIIX3 (EIDE) 64MB RAM EDO 60ns (Kingston brand) Linus Torvalds wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've narrowed it down to "we're

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