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And having gotten same, are you going to code up what appears to be a
solution, based on this feedback?
The feedback was helpful in verifying whether there are any arguments
against my approach. The real proof is in the pudding
on that in a while, I'm just supplying one reason
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Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
[appropriate CCs added]
On Friday, 13 April 2007 02:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents
tossing the legacy PM stuff
to try some tests
on a uniprocessor, though, I have been running everything on either SMP
or HT CPUs. But so far it looks fine.
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that's hard on compiles or the file transfer, so be it. Con doesn't want
to compromise his goals, I agree but want to have an option if I don't
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tried this, perhaps they would report what they saw. People are
talking about smoothness, but not how many pages per second come out of
their overloaded web server.
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application. euid may be an issue there as well.
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yeah.
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The small attached script does a nice job of showing animation glitches
in the glxgears animation. I have run one set of tests, and will have
several more tomorrow. I'm off to a poker game, and would like to let
people draw their own conclusions.
Based on just this script as load I would say
I am not sure a binary attachment will go thru, I will move to the web
ste if not.
GL2.6.21-rc7-git6-CFSv5_nice0_jump
Description: Binary data
GL2.6.21-rc7-git6-CFSv5_nice0_nojump
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GL2.6.21-rc7-git6-CFSv5_nice19_nojump
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With luck I'll get to shake out that patch in combination with kvm later
today.
Great thanks!. I've appreciated all the feedback so far.
I did try, the 2.6.21-rc3-git3 doesn't want to kvm for me, and your
patch may
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Please, could you now rethink plugable scheduler as well? Even if one had to
be chosen at boot time and couldn't be change thereafter, it would still allow
a few new thoughts to be included.
No. Really.
I absolutely
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After looking at that code, I have to wonder how this ever worked, or if
in fact anyone ever took this path. I assume that the value of sz caused
the loop exit in all cases, since this has been in the code at least
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BD the bandwidth I suspect you may need a server motherboard with
BD multiple busses, preferably running at 66MHz 64bit. I don't think
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If all this whining doesn't indicate a problem, I might suggest
eliminating it, since it tends to hide any real problem.
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Joerg Roedel wrote:
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Goes out with an error message:
cc -I /home/davidsen/downloads/kernel.org/linux-2.6.20-git13/include -MMD -MF ./.kvmctl.d
-g -c -o kvmctl.o kvmctl.c
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benefit, when CPU and memory requirements are not a
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Actually I am interested in the common case, where the machine is not
out of space, or memory, or CPU, but when it is appropriately sized to
the workload. Not that I lack interest in corner cases
disk
images which then (normally) get partitions, I'm not sure you aren't
having the same problem.
None of which justifies the OOPS, of course, nice kernels don't go down.
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Avi Kivity wrote:
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There doesn't seem to be a great place for KVM user questions, this
is it, and kvm-devel seems a poor place for user questions, while the
chat room is real time and depends on the question and the answer
being in the same place at the same time.
kvm
doing such a good job most of the time.
Ugly stands out more on something beautiful!
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goes way up again. This is NOT an easy problem!
I think Con has done a good job, I think in most cases (heresy) the
current mainline scheduler does a pretty good job. I'm in favor of
having several schedulers, because I don't believe any one can match the
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some B perform worse. Thus multiple
schedulers are a possible solution.
They don't need to be available as runtime choices, boot time selection
would still allow reasonable testing. I can see myself using a compile
time option and building multiple kernels, but not the average user.
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Jim Gettys wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 16:33 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
What you say sounds good, assuming that the cost of a sleep is less than
the cost of the busy wait. But this may be hardware, the waits may be
very small and frequent, and if it's hitting a small hardware window
Tomoki Sekiyama wrote:
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Thanks for your comments.
I'm sorry for my late reply.
Bill Davidsen wrote:
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- I wonder if dirty_limit_ratio is the best name we could choose.
vm_dirty_blocking_ratio, perhaps? Dunno.
I don't like it, but I dislike it less than
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The communications program kermit can do this, google for the source,
or try kermit.columbia.edu first, and read the source to see how they do
it. I'm reasonably sure ioctl() is the answer, but that's choice three
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Good catch, David, you're like a spider on a web waiting for the naive
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Posted several days too early for April Fool...
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Bill Davidsen: [about filtering dangerous SCSI commands]
My suggestion would be to add an ioctl, like SET_SCSI_UNFILTERED, which
can only
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Starting a VM for Win98SE:
[ debug snip info ]
Known issue. It will be a while before we can support the '95 family on
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Thanks for the quick answer, I'll investigate other virtualization
solutions.
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the crypto module, like aes, anubis or micheal_mic, and is
GPL compatible, some people may agree. But if this is an embedded
system, and you have the patch, why not just apply it to your kernel and
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Indan Zupancic wrote:
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Tasos Parisinos wrote:
The main purpose behind the creation of this module was to create the
cryptographic infrastructure to develop an in-kernel system of signed
modules.
Although this functionality
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Jan Engelhardt wrote:
Who cares if the user specifies max_loop=8 but still is able to open up
/dev/loop8, loop9, etc.? max_loop=X basically meant (at least to me)
have at least X loops ready
. There's no code
to ask for input, nor anyway to positively decide which connected
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Namesys is stable there's no support team. It's not my impression
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is the random *leftovers* from all the other
stuff. It's *not* about processes. Never has been, and never will be.
I proposed struct task_shared_ctx but you ducked :)
Descriptive, correct, I like it!
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garbage, and isn't
likely to suffer terminal damage.
I wonder what happens if the device is really read-only and the o/s
tries to replay the journal as part of a r/o mount? I suspect the system
will refuse totally with an i/o error, not what you want.
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out there which communicate between the parent and child with signals, and if
the original parent dies, it undesirable to have the child getppid
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with it before testing
Neil's NFS stuff. The NFS server test data is on RAID10 ;-)
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-raid_disks; i++) {
in a manner which can be understood without alcoholic fortification?
I don't find either hard to read, but you suggestion isn't equivalent,
since it increments rather than decrements the index.
I admit I probably would write it the same way Neil did...
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replace and rebuild. If quality control were so good they are likely to
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is that it currently is NOT working as intended, since
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Florin Iucha wrote:
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:36:23PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Florin Iucha wrote:
Hello, it's me and my 70 GB of photos again.
I have tested both CIFS and NFSv4 clients in kernel 2.6.20-rc1 . CIFS
passed with flying colors and NFSv4 stalled after 7 GB
to
remove.
Where is the initialization performed, then?
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= (sector_nr + i) * new_data_disks;
Will the (real) fix be in 2.6.21?
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. S.: I do not think this is a hardware error as I did not have those problems
with kernels = 2.6.19.
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test made. Since the mode
filter is not told what mode will be used but just subtracts modes that
are not allowed this should be safe.
Far better to have a drive which works slowly than one which works
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Stephen Clark wrote:
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it seems broken to manipulate xfer_mask after returning from the
driver's -mode_filter hook.
this patch is more than just a speed-limited warning printk, afaics
I actually suggested that order because the only way the printk
to an FC6 kernel before load gets
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particular bootup code.
The patch is unintrusive.
I'm missing something, what limits this to systems running under kvm?
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it seems broken to manipulate xfer_mask after returning from the
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this patch is more than just a speed-limited warning printk, afaics
I
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to mount filesystems, even if the kernel is
technically running. When there were stable and development kernel
series that was not so much of an issue, now that every kernel is an
adventure it would be nice to ensure that testing a new kernel is not an
irrevocable step.
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I'm not objection to the removal of the drivers, just noting that
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. Therefore it should go in -mm and
hopefully give the user an option to select which is appropriate.
With luck I'll get to shake out that patch in combination with kvm later
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Willy Tarreau wrote:
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On Tuesday 06 March 2007 10:05, Bill Davidsen wrote:
jos poortvliet wrote:
Well, imho his current staircase scheduler already does a better job
compared to mainline, but it won't make
Adrian Bunk wrote:
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Adrian Bunk wrote:
This patch contains the scheduled removal of the OBSOLETE_OSS options
for 2.6.22.
If these are drivers for which there are thought to be useful ALSA
drivers, would
processes at the head of the queue short
Fundamentally, the scheduler cannot do it by itself. You can create cases
where the load is precisely identical and one person wants X and another
person wants Y. The scheduler cannot know what's important to you.
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need some tweaking for problem Y.
And everything is totally fixable - at least as long as people are willing
to!
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servers and eepro100 did, but since I'm no longer
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able to provide data points.
IBM current offerings as of about three years ago, I had a few dozen of
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address 1MB.
And having run clients with three users on an XT with just that 640kB
and UNIX, I don't think he was wrong about the memory for that time,
just the O/S.
BTW: anyone got a copy of PC/IX (SysIII for XT) around? I'd love to run
that in a VM just for the comparison.
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you need to open
it and issue an ioctl. Which is a bloody bad idea, for obvious
reasons...
Agreed. What would be a right way? Global device ala ptmx/tun/tap?
New syscall? Something else?
OG.
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of that hub.
Uh, I think I found the reason for the strange behaviour at
shutdown/suspend. When I unload the usblp module, then the iPod is
recognized.
And that's not the case with 2.6.20?
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Starting a VM for Win98SE:
posidon:root /usr/local/kvm-15/bin/qemu -m 128 -hda Win98SE-2.kvm
exception 13 (0)
rax f000ff53 rbx rcx 005a rdx
000e
rsi 001100c4 rdi 0002a002 rsp 00086650 rbp
667a
r8
need to
support old hardware.
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in my tricks file, but it sounds like a
last ditch effort after something get very wrong.
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- It cannot be used with the loop encryption stuff. dm-crypt should be
used instead, on top of loop (which, I think, is even the recommended
way to do this today, so not a big deal).
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to make it fully tunable, it
could have a default by UID or GID. Usful on machines shared by students
or managers.
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