Re: low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0

2001-01-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:35:51PM +1100, Andrew Morton wrote: [snip] - The patch now works properly on SMP. [snip] Any benchmark results on SMP yet? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at

2.4.0 repeatable opps

2001-01-19 Thread Gregory Maxwell
After starting X I get a kernel opps always on the xfs process, System is RedHat 7.0+patches+linus 2.4.0 compiled with 'kgcc' (egcs-2.91.66) Linux limelight 2.4.0 #1 Sat Jan 6 23:05:38 EST 2001 i686 unknown 9:06pm up 4:34, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.16, 0.09 ^was stable since compiled,

Re: Kernel 2.4.x and 2.4.1-preX - Higher latency then 2.2.x kernels?

2001-01-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:50:16PM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote: It just seems that since using 2.4 ive noticed my poor Pentium 200Mhz slow down whether being in X or otherwise. It just seems that the system is sluggish. I am using the new ReiserFS filesystem and I do know its still in heavy

Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:04:50AM -0500, Jonathan Earle wrote: WRONG!!! Not documenting your code is not a sign of good coding, but rather shows arrogance, laziness and contempt for "those who would dare tamper with your code after you've written it". Document and comment your code

Re: kernel BUG at slab.c:1542!(2.4.1-pre9)

2001-01-24 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:58:22PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote: This is not a kernel bug, This is a bug in the XFree86 TrueType rendering extention. This has been discussed on the Xpert XFree86 mailing list. There is a fix in the works (depends on the TrueType fonts your using). A BUG

Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:14:14PM +1300, Chris Wedgwood wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:50:57AM +1100, CaT wrote: *screatches head* I'm not sure as to what the problem with hotmail may be. I have ECN turned on: gozer:~# more /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn 1

Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:15:45PM +1300, Chris Wedgwood wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:55:00PM -0500, Steven N. Hirsch wrote: Adelphia Communications just blew off my problem complaint (they have a router between me and the POP server that DENY's ECN), telling me that they

SBF queueing?

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
Has anyone decided to code a SFB (Stochastic Fair Blue) queue implementation for Linux? It's been implemented for FreeBSD/ALTQ (http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~wuchang/blue/). The paper for it shows it performing very well in comparison to RED. It might be useful in a Linux implementation to be able

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:18:09PM +0100, Frank v Waveren wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:10:48AM +, David Wagner wrote: Practice being really, really paranoid. Think: You're designing a firewall; you've got some reserved bits, currently unused; any future code that uses them could

Re: SBF queueing?

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:52:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gregory! You might have a look on linux/Documentation/networking/policy-routing.txt I think this was down by Alexey Kuznetov Thanks for the quick reply. But that's not exactly what I was looking for. I was trying to find

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 08:58:51PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: [snip] I think that older Checkpoint firewalls (perhaps current?) zeroed out SACK on 'hide nat'ed connections. This causes unreasonable stalls for users on SACK enabled clients. Not cool. If both SACK and SACK_PERMITTED were

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 02:18:31PM -0800, David Schwartz wrote: Firewalling should be implemented on the hosts, perhaps with centralized policy management. In such a situation, there would be no reason to filter on funny IP options. That's madness. If you have to implement your

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 11:09:27PM +, James Sutherland wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, David Schwartz wrote: Firewalling should be implemented on the hosts, perhaps with centralized policy management. In such a situation, there would be no reason to filter on funny IP options.

[OT] Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 02:10:25AM +0100, Dominik Kubla wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:11:59PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: It's this kind of ignorance that makes the internet a less secure and stable place. You have obviously absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Period

Re: [OT] Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 01:57:53PM +0100, Dominik Kubla wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 11:35:43PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: ... An attack against an Xray system is much more likely to come from inside the companies network. ... We are not talking about attacks here, we are talking

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 01:29:52PM +, James Sutherland wrote: There is nothing silly with the decision, davem is simply a modern day internet hero. No. If it were something essential, perhaps, but it's just a minor performance tweak to cut packet loss over congested links. It's not

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-01-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 02:37:48PM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote: Thus spake Andrew Morton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Conclusions: For a NIC which cannot do scatter/gather/checksums, the zerocopy patch makes no change in throughput in all case. For a NIC which can do

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 06:04:17AM -0800, Ben Ford wrote: James Sutherland wrote: [snip] those firewalls should be updated to allow ECN-enabled packets through. However, to break connectivity to such sites deliberately just because they are not supporting an *experimental* extension to

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 02:09:19PM +, James Sutherland wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Ben Ford wrote: Do keep in mind, we aren't breaking connectivity, they are. Let me guess: you're a lawyer? :-) This is a very strange definition: if someone makes a change such that their machine can

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 05:11:20PM +, James Sutherland wrote: [snip] The simplest thing in this chaos is to fix the firewall because it is in violation to begin with. It is not in violation, and you can't fix it: it's not yours. [snip] It's too bad we end up defining protocols using

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 01:08:40PM -0500, jamal wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: A sufficiently paranoid firewall should block requests that he doesn't fully understand. ECN was in this category, so old firewalls are "right" to block these. (Sending an 'RST' is not

Re: reiserfs, xfs, ext2, ext3

2001-05-10 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 01:44:53PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: [snip] If you're deploying a cache partition such as /var/squid (possibly having log files in another /var/log partition on another disk drive), what's the point about not running (e. g.) mke2fs and squid -z on boot, as well as

Re: reiserfs, xfs, ext2, ext3

2001-05-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:04:10PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: I think with the growing acceptance of ReiserFS in the Linux community, it is tiresome to have to apply a patch again and again just to get working NFS. 2.2 NFS horrors all over again. The zero copy patches were basically self

Re: ECN: Volunteers needed

2001-05-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 10:31:23PM -0400, jamal wrote: Folks, ECN is about to become a Proposed Standard RFC. Thanks to efforts from the Linux community, a few issues were discovered in the course of deploying the code. Special kudos go to Alexey Kuznetsov and David Miller. [snip] Anyone

Re: [RAPIDLY MOVING OFF-TOPIC] GPL and binary only drivers [onceagain] [was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FSforLinux]

2000-09-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Henning P . Schmiedehausen wrote: [snip] If I give you a binary-only module which can either be loaded as a driver or, maybe with some glue code, linked into the kernel and some instructions how to do this, I am _not_at_all_ in violation of any GPL. Because I distribute

[OFFTOPIC] Re: What the Heck? [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

2000-09-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: Then they need more competant admins. It isnt _hard_ to transproxy outgoing smtp traffic via a spamtrapper that checks for valid src/destination and headers. I can't believe that you are suggesting this. The moment you being to start encouraging

[OFFTOPIC] Re: What the Heck? [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

2000-09-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Ricky Beam wrote: [snip] As an aside, they also have/had agressive transparent web proxying in the network... everything on port 80 coming and going is/was cached. EVERYTHING. Ugh. If bandwidth is a problem, charge them by the Gb and let them save money by reducing their

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: Ehh? And exactly _how_ would a debugger help it. Especially as Alan quoted an example of a driver bug that didn't get fixed for several months because the maintainer didn't have the hardware. What would a debugger have done? Let the end user

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I guarantee you that IT managers and CTOs do not share your enthusiasm for slow, correct coding when faced with their business being down, their revenue stream being interrupted and their stock options losing value. [snip] No company

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you'd read what I wrote in it's entirety, you'd know that I'm very well aware of this perspective. I read it. I just didn't agree with the level of importance I felt you were assigning to corporate use. I don't need to have the volumes of

2.2 VIA 82Cxxx Audio Driver - help

2000-09-16 Thread Gregory Maxwell
Hi. I've had great success with your VIA 82Cxxx in 2.4test9 on a new system I'm helping a friend setup for his mom. Unfortunately, I'm not having so much luck with the rest of 2.4. Because of general stability issues, I need to move back to 2.2 on this system. However, the VIA 82Cxxx driver

Re: big ECN push

2000-10-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 08:56:51PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, bert hubert wrote: [snip] Well, I think that we need to make some kind of PR push about ECN. Linux right now has enough clout and respect to be able to be used as a 'Technology Push' argument - and it

Re: TRACED] Re: Tux is the wrong logo for Linux

2000-10-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 05:06:33PM +0100, Alex Buell wrote: With regards to this thread, looking at the headers of this post, he appears to be posting from 216.27.3.45. Running a traceroute produces the following: [snip] Feel free to send complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and get his account

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:24:32AM +0330, Hamid Hashemi Golpayegani wrote: Hi , I have download kernel-2.2.17 from kernel.org and wanna to compile it under redhat 7 . when compiling start after few minutes show me this error message : Due to bugs in the Linux kernel, it may only be

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:15:08AM +0200, J . A . Magallon wrote: On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:43:30 Gregory Maxwell wrote: Due to bugs in the Linux kernel, it may only be compiled by certain versions of GCC. GCC 2.7.2 or EGCS 1.1.2 are only supported compilers (linux/Documentation/Changes

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 with RedHat 7 Problem !

2000-10-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 10:12:06PM -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: Gregory Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] If you are going to upgrade, you should at least consider going to 2.4.0test-flavor-of-week, so that your crashes will at least contribute to Linux development. :) Careful

Re: What is 2.4 Linux networking performance like compared to BSD?

2001-03-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:02:13AM +, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Reiser) writes: If I can't get information about BSD v. Linux 2.4 networking code, then reiserfs has to get ported to BSD which will be both nice and a pain to do. So we would get

Re: Process vs. Threads

2001-03-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:28:43PM +0100, Jorge David Ortiz Fuentes wrote: [snip] "task" that can be run. Using this structure makes easier to identify which threads belong to the same process and tools such as ps or top show the TID as a field. I understand that changing this in the

Re: scsi vs ide performance on fsync's

2001-03-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:14:15PM +0100, David Balazic wrote: [snip] Hardware Level caching is only good for OSes which have broken drivers and broken caching (like plain old DOS). Linux does a good job in caching and cache control at software level. Read caching, yes. But for writes, the

Re: conducting TCP sessions with non-local IPs

2001-03-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Bryan Rittmeyer wrote: Hello linux-kernel, Is there any way to conduct TCP sessions (IE have a userland process connect out, or accept connections) using non-local IPs? By "non-local" I just mean IPs that aren't assigned to an interface, but do fall

Re: conducting TCP sessions with non-local IPs

2001-03-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 05:46:39PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Bryan Rittmeyer wrote: Hello linux-kernel, Is there any way to conduct TCP sessions (IE have a userland process connect out, or accept connections) using

Re: How to optimize routing performance

2001-03-15 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 11:17:19AM -0800, J Sloan wrote: Rik van Riel wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, J Sloan wrote: There are some scheduler patches that are not part of the main kernel tree at this point (mostly since they have yet to be optimized for the common case) which make quite

Re: 2.2 and AMD-760MP I/O APIC

2001-03-15 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 05:34:18PM -0800, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: The I/O APIC code for 2.2 contains a little trick which sets the destination to 0 to disable an I/O APIC entry. This apparently trips up the I/O APIC on AMD-760MP systems causing a lockup during boot. [snip] I'd love you test

Re: Enviromental Monitoring

2000-12-10 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 04:55:02PM -, Andrew Stubbs wrote: This probably is not the right lpace, but can't think of where else to ask Has anyone implemented a /proc device or user program to interrogate the enviromental attirbutes (temp, voltage etc) that many motherboards provide via

Re: high load poor interactivity on fast thread creation

2000-12-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 12:11:04PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote: [snip] One notable difference between Linux and NT threads and processes is that it is more expensive to create new processes on NT than on Linux, and on NT thread creation is cheaper than process creation. Typically Windows

Re: 2.2.19pre3 and poor reponse to RT-scheduled processes?

2000-12-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 03:45:23PM -0500, Rafal Boni wrote: [snip] The box in question is running the linux-ha.org heartbeat package, which is a RT-scheduled, mlock()'ed process, and as such should get as good service as the box is able to mange. Often, under high

Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:53:16PM -0500, John O'Donnell wrote: Only on my company's e-mail server. My company typically gets "zero" emails from outside the US. If I get a piece of spam (sorry they are typically from outside the US), I just block the entire .com.br domain. I get far less

Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 06:16:15PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: 99% of mine is from China (either *.cn or 163.com or some other numbering .com or .net. The .org is frowned upon in China - the TLD of protestors and disidents). Half of what's left comes from either .kr or .br. I'm

[OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:22:28PM -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: I already run several sugarplum sites with teergrubes. I also use various blackhole lists and take other action against spammers, including blocking entire rogue domains. If that rogue domain happens to be a two

Re: [OT] Re: [OT] Re: .br blacklisted ?

2001-01-07 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:24:16PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: You are suggesting that it is acceptable to implement technological barriers to a minority expressing speech that is unacceptable to the majority. This is not acceptable. See Rowan v

Re: Shared memory not enabled in 2.4.0?

2001-01-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 01:11:19PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] No complaints are seen at startup, yet I still have no shared memory: # cat /proc/meminfo total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 130293760 123133952 71598080 30371840

Re: kernel network problem ?

2001-01-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 01:32:49PM +, Alan Cox wrote: If I were packaging a Linux distribution, I'd be sure to have ECN disabled by default, FWIW. Probably the case. However the more people who pester the faulty sites the better. Did you ask the person how many reports he needed

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test9 not Open Source

2000-10-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 05:24:19PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: The authors of the NTFL layer dont place any additional restrictions on your use of the code either. They are merely warning you that if you use it in some ways you are going to get your ass kicked by a third party. WHats the

Re: gigabit ethernet small-packet performance

2000-11-05 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 10:07:20AM -0500, Robert Morris wrote: I'm building Linux-based routers and need to be able to forward as many packets per second as possible over gigabit ethernet. It turns [snip] Hmm.. Kernel code written in C++.. Click is intesting. You people are nuts. :) - To

Re: gigabit ethernet small-packet performance

2000-11-05 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 10:40:48PM +0100, bert hubert wrote: On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 01:45:18PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: Hmm.. Kernel code written in C++.. You people are nuts. :) Nobody benefits from having such a closed mind. While I don't wish to imply that C++ is 'ready

Re: [PATCH] document ECN in 2.4 Configure.help

2000-11-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 11:02:47AM +, Alan Cox wrote: [snip] Now that is nice. The end user perceived effect is that folks with faulty firewalls have horrible slow web sites with a 3 or 4 second wait for each page. The perfect incentive. If only someone could do the same to path mtu

Modprobe local root exploit

2000-11-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell
After seeing the modprobe local root exploit today, I asked myself why kmod executes modprobe with full root and doesn't drop some capabilities first. Why? It wouldn't close the hole, but it would narrow it down. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the

Re: NetWare Changing IP Port 524

2000-11-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 01:29:31PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Hopefully, sanity will rule out here. I information being leaked from what I reviewed was the ability for a hacker to exploit port 524 and use it to obtain a local copy of the entire routing table for other IP servers INSIDE an

Re: Defective Red Hat Distribution poorly represents Linux

2000-11-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:53:19AM -0500, Charles Turner, Ph.D. wrote: [snip] I was terribly wrong. This Red Hat version is irrevocably defective. [snip] (3) It "sort of" worked. However, network daemons kept dropping core. X would eventually crash, leaving the terminal in an

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:48:06PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote: Ingo Oeser writes: On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:27:48AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: The idea is that the one thing one tends to optimize for new cpus is the memcpy/memset implementation. What better way to shield libc

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:02:13PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote: Gregory Maxwell writes: On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:48:06PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote: Ingo Oeser writes: On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:27:48AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: The idea is that the one thing one tends

Re: question regarding cpu selection

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 07:07:51PM -0400, Duncan Gauld wrote: Hi, This seems a silly question but - I have an intel celeron 800mhz CPU and thus it is of the Coppermine breed. But under cpu selection when configuring the kernel, should I select PIII or PII/Celeron? Just wondering, since

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:09:22PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: Rogier Wolff wrote: H. Peter Anvin wrote: Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel # l /mnt/d1 total 16 drwxr-xr-x 512 root root

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:11:59PM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: [snip] The point is: The code in that magic page that considers the tradeoff is KERNEL code, which is designed to care about such trade-offs for that machine. Glibc never knows this stuff and shouldn't, because it is already bloated.

Re: deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:10:49PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: [snip] Not to mention in various comments and documentation. Deregister, according to www.m-w.com (and many other dictionaries), is not a word. Is there some sort of historical significance to this being used, in place of

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-05-03 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 05:44:36PM +1000, Keith Owens wrote: On 03 May 2001 09:13:00 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pavel Machek) wrote on 30.04.01 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: PS: Hmm, how do you do timewarp for just one userland appliation with this

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-05-03 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:19:15PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: That means that for fooling closed-source statically-linked binary, If they are using glibc then you have the right to the object to link with the library and the library source under the LGPL. I dont know of any app using its own C

Re: ECN: Volunteers needed

2001-05-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 01:08:31PM -0400, God wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: 2) They certainly are. Every once in a while they go through a period of silently dropping all email coming from hosts that don't have PTRs. This would be no worse. ACK Which do

Re: ECN: Volunteers needed

2001-05-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:10:29AM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: Gregory Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] Anyone have any friends at AOL? I wonder what the effect on these non-conformant sites would be if AOL's proxy's became ECN enabled? And AOL is sure crazy enough to break

NT soon to surpass Linux in specweb99 performance?

2001-02-01 Thread Gregory Maxwell
Looks like TUX caught MS's attention: http://www.spec.org/osg/web99/results/res2000q4/web99-20001211-00082.html Anyone know if their method of achieveing this is as flexible as TUX, or is their "SWC 3.0" simply mean 'spec web cheat' and involve implimenting the specweb dyanmic stuff in x86

Re: [reiserfs-list] ReiserFS Oops (2.4.1, deterministic, symlink related)

2001-02-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 08:50:13PM -0600, Brian Wolfe wrote: [snip] From the debate raging here is what I gathered is acceptable make it blow up fataly and immediatly if it detects Red Hat + gcc 2.96-red_hat_broken(forgot version num) make it provide a URL to get the patch to

Re: Matrox Marvell G400

2001-02-05 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:31:57AM -0500, Wakko Warner wrote: How well is this card supported for it's capture capabilities and dual head? Capture and dual head are almost totally unsupported without using a proprietary, binary only driver chunk which will soundly place your system as

[OT] Re: PCI-SCI Drivers v1.1-7 released

2001-02-06 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:06:24PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: More to add on the gcc 2.96 problems. After compiling a Linux 2.4.1 kernel on gcc 2.91, running SCI benchmarks, then compiling on RedHat 7.1 (Fischer) with gcc 2.96, the 2.96 build DROPPED 30% in throughput from the gcc 2.91

Re: Reason (was: Re: dropcopyright script)

2001-02-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 10:00:25AM -0500, Mohammad A. Haque wrote: How big do you have your icons set that you can actually read stuff in it? On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Mordechai Ovits wrote: In newer file managers, the icon of a C file is a tiny image of the first few lines of text. If all

Re: How to determine Network Utilization

2001-02-16 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 07:24:21PM +0530, Vineet Mehta wrote: I m a beginner so please dont mind.. How do we calculate the network utilization of a particular ethernet LAN segment? Whata are the issues involved? You start by asking in the right place. Then, considering your mail user agent,

[OT]Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 11:20:54PM -0800, Mike Pontillo wrote: [snip] Assuming I am a corporate entity and I need to spend a few bucks to fix a GPL driver, just because I fix it and deploy my fix on my corporation's internal network machines -- and quite possibly benefit the hell out of

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 03:08:48PM -0500, Dennis wrote: good commercial drivers dont need fixing. another point. You are arguing that having source is required to fix crappy code, which i agree with. Too bad we havn't seen much (any?) good closed-source (what you ment to say when you said

[OT] Re: Money stifles innovation

2001-02-18 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 05:47:10PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 12:57:14AM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: The XOR patent and the fraudulent enforcement of it is the purest embodiment of everything that is wrong with the patent

Re: 2.4 tcp very slow under certain circumstances (Re: netdev issues (3c905B))

2001-02-21 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:47:24AM +0100, Ookhoi wrote: [snip] We have exactly the same problem but in our case it depends on the following three conditions: 1, kernel 2.4 (2.2 is fine), 2, windows ip header compression turned on, 3, a free internet access provider in Holland called 'Wish'

Re: Very high bandwith packet based interface and performance problems

2001-02-21 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 02:00:55PM -0800, Nye Liu wrote: [snip] This is NOT what I'm seeing at all.. the kernel load appears to be pegged at 100% (or very close to it), the user space app is getting enough cpu time to read out about 10-20Mbit, and FURTHERMORE the kernel appears to be ACKING

Re: Linux-2.4.2

2001-02-21 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 09:13:30PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: [snip] If you want stability, run the real Linus 2.4. If you want all the really minor bug fixes and more of the experimental code, run -ac. If you want production quality, run your kernel on a test server before deploying.

Re: Via UDMA5 3/4/5 is not functional!

2001-02-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:38:48PM +0100, Ricardo Galli wrote: Then I tried kernel 2.4.1. I issued exactly the same hdparm command. i got in syslog the message: "ide0: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional"! I had the same problem. Add append="ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66 ide0=autotune

Re: Linux Worm (fwd)

2001-03-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:07:22AM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote: [snip] I have just received notice that my machines will no longer be provided access to "The Internet". "Effective on or before 16:00:00 local time, the only personal computers that will be allowed Internet access are

Re: Promise RAID controller howto?

2001-03-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:41:11PM +0200, Erik van Asselt wrote: Hm i have the Promise raid source for 2.2 kernel modules so what do you mean by opensource signatures i have it working for 2.2 kernels but i can't get it to work properly in 2.4 So if someone want to look at the source

Re: Revised memory-management stuff (was: OOM killer)

2001-03-31 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 10:03:28PM -0800, Jonathan Morton wrote: [snip] Issue 3: The OOM killer was frequently killing the "wrong" process. I have developed an improved badness selector, and devised a possible means of specifying "don't touch" PIDs at runtime. PID 1 is never selected

Re: bug database braindump from the kernel summit

2001-04-01 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 03:43:52PM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: I'm really sick of being buried in useless information. The signal gets lost in the noise. It is easy to discard automatically generated bug reports, and way too annoying to wade through the crud. When network connections

Re: New directions for kernel development

2001-04-01 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 03:05:47PM -0500, Adam wrote: BZZT, wrong. Headers were forged intentionally to show pine since it is what Linus uses. I had a joke for this year as well, but I didn't hear back from Linus if that's cool with him to send it to LKML (I suppose I should have asked him

Re: bizarre TCP behavior

2001-04-10 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 06:24:46PM -0400, Dave wrote: I am having a very strange problem in linux 2.4 kernels. I have not set any iptables rules at all, and there is no firewall blocking any of my outgoing traffic. At what seems like random selection, I can not connect to IP's yet I can get

Re: ECN: Volunteers needed

2001-05-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 10:31:23PM -0400, jamal wrote: > Folks, > > ECN is about to become a Proposed Standard RFC. Thanks to > efforts from the Linux community, a few issues were discovered > in the course of deploying the code. Special kudos go to Alexey > Kuznetsov and David Miller. [snip]

Re: low-latency scheduling patch for 2.4.0

2001-01-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:35:51PM +1100, Andrew Morton wrote: [snip] > - The patch now works properly on SMP. [snip] Any benchmark results on SMP yet? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at

2.4.0 repeatable opps

2001-01-19 Thread Gregory Maxwell
After starting X I get a kernel opps always on the xfs process, System is RedHat 7.0+patches+linus 2.4.0 compiled with 'kgcc' (egcs-2.91.66) Linux limelight 2.4.0 #1 Sat Jan 6 23:05:38 EST 2001 i686 unknown 9:06pm up 4:34, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.16, 0.09 ^was stable since compiled,

Re: Kernel 2.4.x and 2.4.1-preX - Higher latency then 2.2.x kernels?

2001-01-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:50:16PM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote: > It just seems that since using 2.4 ive noticed my poor Pentium 200Mhz > slow down whether being in X or otherwise. It just seems that the system > is sluggish. > > I am using the new ReiserFS filesystem and I do know its still in

Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 11:04:50AM -0500, Jonathan Earle wrote: > WRONG!!! > > Not documenting your code is not a sign of good coding, but rather shows > arrogance, laziness and contempt for "those who would dare tamper with your > code after you've written it". Document and comment your code

Re: kernel BUG at slab.c:1542!(2.4.1-pre9)

2001-01-24 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:58:22PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote: > > This is not a kernel bug, This is a bug in the XFree86 TrueType rendering > > extention. This has been discussed on the Xpert XFree86 mailing list. There > > is a fix in the works (depends on the TrueType fonts your using). > >

Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:14:14PM +1300, Chris Wedgwood wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:50:57AM +1100, CaT wrote: >> *screatches head* >> >> I'm not sure as to what the problem with hotmail may be. I have ECN >> turned on: >> >> gozer:~# more

Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:15:45PM +1300, Chris Wedgwood wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:55:00PM -0500, Steven N. Hirsch wrote: > > Adelphia Communications just blew off my problem complaint (they > have a router between me and the POP server that DENY's ECN), > telling me that

SBF queueing?

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
Has anyone decided to code a SFB (Stochastic Fair Blue) queue implementation for Linux? It's been implemented for FreeBSD/ALTQ (http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~wuchang/blue/). The paper for it shows it performing very well in comparison to RED. It might be useful in a Linux implementation to be able

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:18:09PM +0100, Frank v Waveren wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:10:48AM +, David Wagner wrote: > > Practice being really, really paranoid. Think: You're designing a > > firewall; you've got some reserved bits, currently unused; any future code > > that uses them

Re: SBF queueing?

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:52:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Gregory! > You might have a look on linux/Documentation/networking/policy-routing.txt > I think this was down by Alexey Kuznetov Thanks for the quick reply. But that's not exactly what I was looking for. I was trying to find

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 08:58:51PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: [snip] > > I think that older Checkpoint firewalls (perhaps current?) zeroed out SACK > > on 'hide nat'ed connections. This causes unreasonable stalls for users on > > SACK enabled clients. Not cool. > > If both SACK and

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