On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 03:50:15PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Peter Hutterer
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:19:44PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:42:31PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Peter Hutterer
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:19:44PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:42:31PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
>> > wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 03:18:12
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:51:14AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 04:28:01PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:06:24AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:32:55PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 04:28:01PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:06:24AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:32:55PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:59:16PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 20
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:06:24AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:32:55PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:59:16PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:32:55PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:59:16PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> > wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 07:55:57PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> > >> Hi Dmitry,
> > >>
> > >
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:19:44PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:42:31PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> > wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 03:18:12PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:32 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:59:16PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 07:55:57PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
>> >> Hi Dmitry,
>> >>
>> >> > > > Logica
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:19 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:42:31PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 03:18:12PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:43 PM,
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:59:16PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 07:55:57PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> >> Hi Dmitry,
> >>
> >> > > > Logically, the confidence state is a property of a contact, not a
> >>
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 10:42:31PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 03:18:12PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 07:55:57PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
>> Hi Dmitry,
>>
>> > > > Logically, the confidence state is a property of a contact, not a new
>> > > > type
>> > > > of contact. Trying to use it in any other way is bound to
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 03:18:12PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:16:09PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 AM,
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 07:55:57PM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> > > > Logically, the confidence state is a property of a contact, not a new
> > > > type
> > > > of contact. Trying to use it in any other way is bound to lead to
> > > > confusion.
> > > >
> > > > Problem is that
Hi Dmitry,
Logically, the confidence state is a property of a contact, not a new type
of contact. Trying to use it in any other way is bound to lead to confusion.
Problem is that MT_TOOL_PALM has been introduced in the kernel since
v4.0 (late 2015 by a736775db683 "Input: add MT_TOOL_PALM").
It'
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 03:18:12PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:16:09PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Dmitry Torokhov
> >> wrote:
> >> > According to Microsoft sp
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:57:54PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> >
> >>> However, I interpret a firmware that send (confidence 1, tip switch 1)
> >>> and then (confidence 0, tip switch 0) a simple release, and the
> >>> confidence bit sh
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:16:09PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Dmitry Torokhov
>> wrote:
>> > According to Microsoft specification [1] for Precision Touchpads (and
>> > Touchscreens) the devices use
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
>
>>> However, I interpret a firmware that send (confidence 1, tip switch 1)
>>> and then (confidence 0, tip switch 0) a simple release, and the
>>> confidence bit should not be relayed.
>>
>> This unfortunately leads to false clicks: you start
However, I interpret a firmware that send (confidence 1, tip switch 1)
and then (confidence 0, tip switch 0) a simple release, and the
confidence bit should not be relayed.
This unfortunately leads to false clicks: you start with finger, so
confidence is 1, then you transition the same touch t
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:16:09PM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Dmitry Torokhov
> wrote:
> > According to Microsoft specification [1] for Precision Touchpads (and
> > Touchscreens) the devices use "confidence" reports to signal accidental
> > touches, or cont
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Dmitry Torokhov
wrote:
> According to Microsoft specification [1] for Precision Touchpads (and
> Touchscreens) the devices use "confidence" reports to signal accidental
> touches, or contacts that are "too large to be a finger". Instead of
> simply marking contact
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:12 AM, Peter Hutterer
wrote:
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 05:44:59PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>> According to Microsoft specification [1] for Precision Touchpads (and
>> Touchscreens) the devices use "confidence" reports to signal accidental
>> touches, o
Hi Dmitry,
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 05:44:59PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> According to Microsoft specification [1] for Precision Touchpads (and
> Touchscreens) the devices use "confidence" reports to signal accidental
> touches, or contacts that are "too large to be a finger". Instead of
> sim
sorry, was at a conference/travelling and I'm slowly catching up.
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:29:07AM +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> > The meaning of confidence is literally "contact is too large to be a
> > finger", so it is not touch state, but really tool identity. We do
> > allo
Hi Dmitry,
The meaning of confidence is literally "contact is too large to be a
finger", so it is not touch state, but really tool identity. We do
allow tool identity to change over time.
What I am arguing is rather that since "palm" is a property, just like
contact size, there should be no nee
Hi Henrik,
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> On 08/11/2017 02:44 AM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>
>> According to Microsoft specification [1] for Precision Touchpads (and
>> Touchscreens) the devices use "confidence" reports to signal accidental
>> touches, or c
Hi Dmitry,
On 08/11/2017 02:44 AM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
According to Microsoft specification [1] for Precision Touchpads (and
Touchscreens) the devices use "confidence" reports to signal accidental
touches, or contacts that are "too large to be a finger". Instead of
simply marking contact ina
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