Re: [PATCH v06 04/36] uapi scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h: use __u16, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h

2017-08-07 Thread Mikko Rapeli
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 03:09:21PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 23:42 +0300, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 11:22:53AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Fixes userspace compilation errors like:
> > > > 
> > > > scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h:60:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-
> > > > list  before ‘uint64_t’
> > > 
> > > Rather than patching the kernel, why not #include  in
> > > your userspace programme?
> > 
> > The userspace program is actually a test which checks that uapi
> > headers compile alone because several headers are not compiling at
> > all and/or require special tricks. The test is available here:
> > 
> > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=150203944104544=2
> 
> But you don't seem to be detecting or fixing an existing problem.
>  These types are width unambiguous and all current consumers of these
> headers include stdint.h so you're churning the kernel for a problem
> which doesn't currently exist for any consumer of this header.

The header file dependencies of scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h are not explicit.
I will propose a patch which includes  in userspace then.

> I can agree not adding any more external uint_t types for newly
> exported headers so new consumers don't depend on an external standard
> is reasonable, so checkpatch should warn if someone tries to add them;
> I just don't see the benefit of going over the whole kernel changing
> stuff that has worked fine for years.  Now if you can tell me there's
> an actual bug somewhere, that's different ...

Tools parsing and checking uapi headers need to be able to compile them
and thus need the explicit list of dependencies. If  is a
required dependency, then scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h should include it.

scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h is one of 42 problematic headers left in current
kernel and I want to fix it one way or the other.

-Mikko


Re: [PATCH v06 04/36] uapi scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h: use __u16, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h

2017-08-07 Thread Mikko Rapeli
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 03:09:21PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 23:42 +0300, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 11:22:53AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Fixes userspace compilation errors like:
> > > > 
> > > > scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h:60:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-
> > > > list  before ‘uint64_t’
> > > 
> > > Rather than patching the kernel, why not #include  in
> > > your userspace programme?
> > 
> > The userspace program is actually a test which checks that uapi
> > headers compile alone because several headers are not compiling at
> > all and/or require special tricks. The test is available here:
> > 
> > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=150203944104544=2
> 
> But you don't seem to be detecting or fixing an existing problem.
>  These types are width unambiguous and all current consumers of these
> headers include stdint.h so you're churning the kernel for a problem
> which doesn't currently exist for any consumer of this header.

The header file dependencies of scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h are not explicit.
I will propose a patch which includes  in userspace then.

> I can agree not adding any more external uint_t types for newly
> exported headers so new consumers don't depend on an external standard
> is reasonable, so checkpatch should warn if someone tries to add them;
> I just don't see the benefit of going over the whole kernel changing
> stuff that has worked fine for years.  Now if you can tell me there's
> an actual bug somewhere, that's different ...

Tools parsing and checking uapi headers need to be able to compile them
and thus need the explicit list of dependencies. If  is a
required dependency, then scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h should include it.

scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h is one of 42 problematic headers left in current
kernel and I want to fix it one way or the other.

-Mikko


Re: [PATCH v06 04/36] uapi scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h: use __u16, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h

2017-08-06 Thread James Bottomley
On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 23:42 +0300, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 11:22:53AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> > > 
> > > Fixes userspace compilation errors like:
> > > 
> > > scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h:60:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-
> > > list  before ‘uint64_t’
> > 
> > Rather than patching the kernel, why not #include  in
> > your userspace programme?
> 
> The userspace program is actually a test which checks that uapi
> headers compile alone because several headers are not compiling at
> all and/or require special tricks. The test is available here:
> 
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=150203944104544=2

But you don't seem to be detecting or fixing an existing problem.
 These types are width unambiguous and all current consumers of these
headers include stdint.h so you're churning the kernel for a problem
which doesn't currently exist for any consumer of this header.

I can agree not adding any more external uint_t types for newly
exported headers so new consumers don't depend on an external standard
is reasonable, so checkpatch should warn if someone tries to add them;
I just don't see the benefit of going over the whole kernel changing
stuff that has worked fine for years.  Now if you can tell me there's
an actual bug somewhere, that's different ...

James



Re: [PATCH v06 04/36] uapi scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h: use __u16, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h

2017-08-06 Thread James Bottomley
On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 23:42 +0300, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 11:22:53AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> > > 
> > > Fixes userspace compilation errors like:
> > > 
> > > scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h:60:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-
> > > list  before ‘uint64_t’
> > 
> > Rather than patching the kernel, why not #include  in
> > your userspace programme?
> 
> The userspace program is actually a test which checks that uapi
> headers compile alone because several headers are not compiling at
> all and/or require special tricks. The test is available here:
> 
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=150203944104544=2

But you don't seem to be detecting or fixing an existing problem.
 These types are width unambiguous and all current consumers of these
headers include stdint.h so you're churning the kernel for a problem
which doesn't currently exist for any consumer of this header.

I can agree not adding any more external uint_t types for newly
exported headers so new consumers don't depend on an external standard
is reasonable, so checkpatch should warn if someone tries to add them;
I just don't see the benefit of going over the whole kernel changing
stuff that has worked fine for years.  Now if you can tell me there's
an actual bug somewhere, that's different ...

James



Re: [PATCH v06 04/36] uapi scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h: use __u16, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h

2017-08-06 Thread Mikko Rapeli
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 11:22:53AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> > Fixes userspace compilation errors like:
> > 
> > scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h:60:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list 
> > before ‘uint64_t’
> 
> Rather than patching the kernel, why not #include  in your
> userspace programme?

The userspace program is actually a test which checks that uapi headers
compile alone because several headers are not compiling at all and/or
require special tricks. The test is available here:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=150203944104544=2

I have tried that approach before but then:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/1/160

For some subsystems like fuse the above message was not enough and they
are including stdint.h in userspace. What shall we do with this old
scsi header file?

-Mikko


Re: [PATCH v06 04/36] uapi scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h: use __u16, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h

2017-08-06 Thread Mikko Rapeli
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 11:22:53AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> > Fixes userspace compilation errors like:
> > 
> > scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h:60:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list 
> > before ‘uint64_t’
> 
> Rather than patching the kernel, why not #include  in your
> userspace programme?

The userspace program is actually a test which checks that uapi headers
compile alone because several headers are not compiling at all and/or
require special tricks. The test is available here:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=150203944104544=2

I have tried that approach before but then:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/1/160

For some subsystems like fuse the above message was not enough and they
are including stdint.h in userspace. What shall we do with this old
scsi header file?

-Mikko


Re: [PATCH v06 04/36] uapi scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h: use __u16, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h

2017-08-06 Thread James Bottomley
On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> Fixes userspace compilation errors like:
> 
> scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h:60:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list 
> before ‘uint64_t’

Rather than patching the kernel, why not #include  in your
userspace programme?

James



Re: [PATCH v06 04/36] uapi scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h: use __u16, __u32 and __u64 from linux/types.h

2017-08-06 Thread James Bottomley
On Sun, 2017-08-06 at 18:43 +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> Fixes userspace compilation errors like:
> 
> scsi/scsi_netlink_fc.h:60:2: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list 
> before ‘uint64_t’

Rather than patching the kernel, why not #include  in your
userspace programme?

James