Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: firmware: add prepare_idle() operation
On 14.02.2014 06:16, Alexandre Courbot wrote: On 02/13/2014 08:01 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote: Hi Alexandre, On 07.02.2014 05:35, Alexandre Courbot wrote: Some firmwares do not put the CPU into idle mode themselves, but still need to be informed that the CPU is about to enter idle mode before this happens. Add a prepare_idle() operation to the firmware_ops structure to handle such cases. Signed-off-by: Alexandre Courbot --- arch/arm/include/asm/firmware.h | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) I wonder if .do_idle() couldn't simply return an appropriate error code to let the upper layer know that it should proceed with normal CPU idle activation, while still letting the firmware know that the CPU is going to idle. In our particular case I agree it would be enough to use do_idle() to let the firmware know about the operation and have it return -ENOSYS so the kernel actually performs it. I'm afraid this might not fulfill all needs though (e.g. one can imagine a firmware where the OS needs to take action between the notification and the actual shutdown), and as Stephen pointed out that would make the name of the function ambiguous at best. I'd rather keep it the current way for clarity. OK. I'm not strongly against this, just wanted some more thought on this, so please move on. Best regards, Tomasz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: firmware: add prepare_idle() operation
On 14.02.2014 06:16, Alexandre Courbot wrote: On 02/13/2014 08:01 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote: Hi Alexandre, On 07.02.2014 05:35, Alexandre Courbot wrote: Some firmwares do not put the CPU into idle mode themselves, but still need to be informed that the CPU is about to enter idle mode before this happens. Add a prepare_idle() operation to the firmware_ops structure to handle such cases. Signed-off-by: Alexandre Courbot acour...@nvidia.com --- arch/arm/include/asm/firmware.h | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) I wonder if .do_idle() couldn't simply return an appropriate error code to let the upper layer know that it should proceed with normal CPU idle activation, while still letting the firmware know that the CPU is going to idle. In our particular case I agree it would be enough to use do_idle() to let the firmware know about the operation and have it return -ENOSYS so the kernel actually performs it. I'm afraid this might not fulfill all needs though (e.g. one can imagine a firmware where the OS needs to take action between the notification and the actual shutdown), and as Stephen pointed out that would make the name of the function ambiguous at best. I'd rather keep it the current way for clarity. OK. I'm not strongly against this, just wanted some more thought on this, so please move on. Best regards, Tomasz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: firmware: add prepare_idle() operation
On 02/13/2014 08:01 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote: Hi Alexandre, On 07.02.2014 05:35, Alexandre Courbot wrote: Some firmwares do not put the CPU into idle mode themselves, but still need to be informed that the CPU is about to enter idle mode before this happens. Add a prepare_idle() operation to the firmware_ops structure to handle such cases. Signed-off-by: Alexandre Courbot --- arch/arm/include/asm/firmware.h | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) I wonder if .do_idle() couldn't simply return an appropriate error code to let the upper layer know that it should proceed with normal CPU idle activation, while still letting the firmware know that the CPU is going to idle. In our particular case I agree it would be enough to use do_idle() to let the firmware know about the operation and have it return -ENOSYS so the kernel actually performs it. I'm afraid this might not fulfill all needs though (e.g. one can imagine a firmware where the OS needs to take action between the notification and the actual shutdown), and as Stephen pointed out that would make the name of the function ambiguous at best. I'd rather keep it the current way for clarity. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: firmware: add prepare_idle() operation
On 02/13/2014 04:01 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > On 07.02.2014 05:35, Alexandre Courbot wrote: >> Some firmwares do not put the CPU into idle mode themselves, but still >> need to be informed that the CPU is about to enter idle mode before this >> happens. Add a prepare_idle() operation to the firmware_ops structure to >> handle such cases. >> >> Signed-off-by: Alexandre Courbot >> --- >> arch/arm/include/asm/firmware.h | 4 >> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) > > I wonder if .do_idle() couldn't simply return an appropriate error code > to let the upper layer know that it should proceed with normal CPU idle > activation, while still letting the firmware know that the CPU is going > to idle. That seems to disagree with the naming of the operation, and the semantics I assume it has, though. It seems clearer to add an explicit separate op for this. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: firmware: add prepare_idle() operation
Hi Alexandre, On 07.02.2014 05:35, Alexandre Courbot wrote: Some firmwares do not put the CPU into idle mode themselves, but still need to be informed that the CPU is about to enter idle mode before this happens. Add a prepare_idle() operation to the firmware_ops structure to handle such cases. Signed-off-by: Alexandre Courbot --- arch/arm/include/asm/firmware.h | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) I wonder if .do_idle() couldn't simply return an appropriate error code to let the upper layer know that it should proceed with normal CPU idle activation, while still letting the firmware know that the CPU is going to idle. Best regards, Tomasz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: firmware: add prepare_idle() operation
Hi Alexandre, On 07.02.2014 05:35, Alexandre Courbot wrote: Some firmwares do not put the CPU into idle mode themselves, but still need to be informed that the CPU is about to enter idle mode before this happens. Add a prepare_idle() operation to the firmware_ops structure to handle such cases. Signed-off-by: Alexandre Courbot acour...@nvidia.com --- arch/arm/include/asm/firmware.h | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) I wonder if .do_idle() couldn't simply return an appropriate error code to let the upper layer know that it should proceed with normal CPU idle activation, while still letting the firmware know that the CPU is going to idle. Best regards, Tomasz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: firmware: add prepare_idle() operation
On 02/13/2014 04:01 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote: Hi Alexandre, On 07.02.2014 05:35, Alexandre Courbot wrote: Some firmwares do not put the CPU into idle mode themselves, but still need to be informed that the CPU is about to enter idle mode before this happens. Add a prepare_idle() operation to the firmware_ops structure to handle such cases. Signed-off-by: Alexandre Courbot acour...@nvidia.com --- arch/arm/include/asm/firmware.h | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) I wonder if .do_idle() couldn't simply return an appropriate error code to let the upper layer know that it should proceed with normal CPU idle activation, while still letting the firmware know that the CPU is going to idle. That seems to disagree with the naming of the operation, and the semantics I assume it has, though. It seems clearer to add an explicit separate op for this. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM: firmware: add prepare_idle() operation
On 02/13/2014 08:01 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote: Hi Alexandre, On 07.02.2014 05:35, Alexandre Courbot wrote: Some firmwares do not put the CPU into idle mode themselves, but still need to be informed that the CPU is about to enter idle mode before this happens. Add a prepare_idle() operation to the firmware_ops structure to handle such cases. Signed-off-by: Alexandre Courbot acour...@nvidia.com --- arch/arm/include/asm/firmware.h | 4 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) I wonder if .do_idle() couldn't simply return an appropriate error code to let the upper layer know that it should proceed with normal CPU idle activation, while still letting the firmware know that the CPU is going to idle. In our particular case I agree it would be enough to use do_idle() to let the firmware know about the operation and have it return -ENOSYS so the kernel actually performs it. I'm afraid this might not fulfill all needs though (e.g. one can imagine a firmware where the OS needs to take action between the notification and the actual shutdown), and as Stephen pointed out that would make the name of the function ambiguous at best. I'd rather keep it the current way for clarity. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
