Re: [PATCH v9 00/10] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework

2018-04-10 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Monday, April 9, 2018 5:58:32 PM CEST Thomas Ilsche wrote:
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> On 2018-04-08 18:32, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > The v9 along with some cleanups suggested by Frederic on top of it and =
> with
> > ACKs from Peter (obtained on IRC) is now available from the pm-cpuidle =
> branch
> > in the linux-pm.git tree.
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> > It has been added to my linux-next branch, so it probably will be picke=
> d up by
> > linux-next tomorrow and I have a plan to push it for v4.17 in the secon=
> d half
> > of the next week unless a major issue with it is found in the meantime.=
> 
> 
> Great to hear that. Thanks for all your work.

You're very welcome!

> I'm finishing up some analysis of corner cases, but nothing major.
> So I'm glad to see this is moving along. I've been nitpicking a lot,
> but this is clearly a huge improvement and there are practical
> limitations against a theoretically perfect solution. In any case the
> changes will also make future policy adaptions much easier.

Thanks for your feedback, it would have taken much more time to get to this
point without it.

Thanks,
Rafael



Re: [PATCH v9 00/10] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework

2018-04-09 Thread Thomas Ilsche

On 2018-04-08 18:32, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

The v9 along with some cleanups suggested by Frederic on top of it and with
ACKs from Peter (obtained on IRC) is now available from the pm-cpuidle branch
in the linux-pm.git tree.

It has been added to my linux-next branch, so it probably will be picked up by
linux-next tomorrow and I have a plan to push it for v4.17 in the second half
of the next week unless a major issue with it is found in the meantime.


Great to hear that. Thanks for all your work.

I'm finishing up some analysis of corner cases, but nothing major.
So I'm glad to see this is moving along. I've been nitpicking a lot,
but this is clearly a huge improvement and there are practical
limitations against a theoretically perfect solution. In any case the
changes will also make future policy adaptions much easier.

Thanks,
Thomas



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Re: [PATCH v9 00/10] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework

2018-04-08 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 10:32:12 AM CEST Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Thanks a lot for the feedback so far!
> 
> For the motivation/summary, please refer to the BZ entry at
> 
>  https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199227
> 
> created for collecting information related to this patch series.  Some v7.3
> testing results from Len and Doug are in there already.
> 
> The testing so far shows significant idle power improvements, both in terms of
> reducing the average idle power (about 10% on some systems) and in terms of
> reducing the idle power noise (in the vast majority of cases, with this series
> applied the idle power is mostly stable around the power floor of the system).
> The average power is also reduced in some non-idle workloads and there are
> some performance improvements in them.
> 
> It also is reported that the series generally addresses the problem it has 
> been
> motivated by (ie. the "powernightmares" issue).
> 
> This revision is mostly a re-send of the v8 with three patches changed as
> follows.
> 
> > Patch 1 prepares the tick-sched code for the subsequent modifications and it
> > doesn't change the code's functionality (at least not intentionally).
> > 
> > Patch 2 starts pushing the tick stopping decision deeper into the idle
> > loop, but that is limited to do_idle() and tick_nohz_irq_exit().
> > 
> > Patch 3 makes cpuidle_idle_call() decide whether or not to stop the tick
> > and sets the stage for the subsequent changes.
> >
> > Patch 4 is a new one just for the TICK_USEC definition changes.
> >
> > Patch 5 adds a bool pointer argument to cpuidle_select() and the ->select
> > governor callback allowing them to return a "nohz" hint on whether or not to
> > stop the tick to the caller.  It also adds code to decide what value to
> > return as "nohz" to the menu governor and modifies its correction factor
> > computations to take running tick into account if need be.
> >
> > Patch 6 (which is new) contains some changes that previously were included
> > into the big reordering patch (patch [6/8] in the v7).  Essentially, it does
> > more tick-sched code reorganization in preparation for the subsequent 
> > changes
> > (and should not modify the functionality).
> 
> Patch 7 is a new version of its v8 counterpart.  It makes fewer changes to the
> existing code and adds a special function for the handling of the use case it
> is about.  It still makes some hrtimer code modifications allowing it to 
> return
> the time to the next event with one timer excluded (which needs to be done 
> with
> respect to the tick timer), though.
> 
> Patch 8 reorders the idle state selection with respect to the stopping of
> the tick and causes the additional "nohz" hint from cpuidle_select() to be
> used for deciding whether or not to stop the tick.  It is a rebased version
> of its v8 counterpart.
> 
> Patch 9 causes the menu governor to refine the state selection in case the
> tick is not going to be stopped and the already selected state does not fit
> the interval before the next tick time.  It is a new version that avoids
> using state 0 if it has been disabled (if state 0 has been disabled, the
> governor only should use it when no states are enabled at all).
> 
> > Patch 10 Deals with the situation in which the tick was stopped previously,
> > but the idle governor still predicts short idle (it has not changed).
> 
> This series is complementary to the poll_idle() patches discussed recently
> 
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10282237/
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10311775/
> 
> that have been merged for v4.17 already.
> 
> There is a new git branch containing the current series at
> 
>  git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git \
>  idle-loop-v9

The v9 along with some cleanups suggested by Frederic on top of it and with
ACKs from Peter (obtained on IRC) is now available from the pm-cpuidle branch
in the linux-pm.git tree.

It has been added to my linux-next branch, so it probably will be picked up by
linux-next tomorrow and I have a plan to push it for v4.17 in the second half
of the next week unless a major issue with it is found in the meantime.

Thanks,
Rafael