Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Mateusz Berezecki
Denis Vlasenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> What it can do? In particular, can it: -> * send packets with arbitrary contents? In particular, packets -> shorter than 3-address 802.11 header? packets with WEP bit set? -> Does it allow to do WEP encoding by host instead of hal? -> Any weird

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Mateusz Berezecki
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> > the problem with openbsd version of the hal is that it is - sorry to -> > say that - fundamentally broken, at least it was last time I was -> > checking. -> -> It's better than nothing, that is, it worked for us when we gave it a -> try. And it

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Wednesday 31 August 2005 11:16, Mateusz Berezecki wrote: > Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -> The FTC issues are shared by many (most?) wireless drivers. The > -> copyright/trade secret issues might be worked around by basing the > -> work on the OpenBSD version of that driver (and

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mateusz Berezecki: > Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -> The FTC issues are shared by many (most?) wireless drivers. The > -> copyright/trade secret issues might be worked around by basing the > -> work on the OpenBSD version of that driver (and someone is actually > -> working on

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Mateusz Berezecki
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> The FTC issues are shared by many (most?) wireless drivers. The -> copyright/trade secret issues might be worked around by basing the -> work on the OpenBSD version of that driver (and someone is actually -> working on that). the problem with openbsd

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jeff Garzik: > There is still the open question of whether this is legal enough to > include in the kernel :( Are you referring to FTC issues, or potential copyright/trade secret issues? The FTC issues are shared by many (most?) wireless drivers. The copyright/trade secret issues might be

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jeff Garzik: There is still the open question of whether this is legal enough to include in the kernel :( Are you referring to FTC issues, or potential copyright/trade secret issues? The FTC issues are shared by many (most?) wireless drivers. The copyright/trade secret issues might be

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Mateusz Berezecki
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - The FTC issues are shared by many (most?) wireless drivers. The - copyright/trade secret issues might be worked around by basing the - work on the OpenBSD version of that driver (and someone is actually - working on that). the problem with openbsd

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mateusz Berezecki: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - The FTC issues are shared by many (most?) wireless drivers. The - copyright/trade secret issues might be worked around by basing the - work on the OpenBSD version of that driver (and someone is actually - working on that).

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Wednesday 31 August 2005 11:16, Mateusz Berezecki wrote: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - The FTC issues are shared by many (most?) wireless drivers. The - copyright/trade secret issues might be worked around by basing the - work on the OpenBSD version of that driver (and someone

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Mateusz Berezecki
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - the problem with openbsd version of the hal is that it is - sorry to - say that - fundamentally broken, at least it was last time I was - checking. - - It's better than nothing, that is, it worked for us when we gave it a - try. And it seems to be

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-31 Thread Mateusz Berezecki
Denis Vlasenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - What it can do? In particular, can it: - * send packets with arbitrary contents? In particular, packets - shorter than 3-address 802.11 header? packets with WEP bit set? - Does it allow to do WEP encoding by host instead of hal? - Any weird

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 19:11 +0100, Daniel J Blueman wrote: > Ralink Tech (www.ralink.com.tw) took a design decision to incorporate > the firmware into an EEPROM on-board, allowing their driver to be > GPL'd Binary only firmware and firmware loading is perfectly compatible with the GPL, as long

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 19:11 +0100, Daniel J Blueman wrote: Ralink Tech (www.ralink.com.tw) took a design decision to incorporate the firmware into an EEPROM on-board, allowing their driver to be GPL'd Binary only firmware and firmware loading is perfectly compatible with the GPL, as long as

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-18 Thread Jeff Garzik
Mateusz Berezecki wrote: Daniel J Blueman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> -> There is a good chance the rt2x00 driver will get into the kernel tree -> in time, since there is no firmware to upload - Ralink Tech -> (www.ralink.com.tw) took a design decision to incorporate the firmware -> into an

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-18 Thread Mateusz Berezecki
Daniel J Blueman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> -> There is a good chance the rt2x00 driver will get into the kernel tree -> in time, since there is no firmware to upload - Ralink Tech -> (www.ralink.com.tw) took a design decision to incorporate the firmware -> into an EEPROM on-board, allowing

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-18 Thread Mateusz Berezecki
Daniel J Blueman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - - There is a good chance the rt2x00 driver will get into the kernel tree - in time, since there is no firmware to upload - Ralink Tech - (www.ralink.com.tw) took a design decision to incorporate the firmware - into an EEPROM on-board, allowing their

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-18 Thread Jeff Garzik
Mateusz Berezecki wrote: Daniel J Blueman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - - There is a good chance the rt2x00 driver will get into the kernel tree - in time, since there is no firmware to upload - Ralink Tech - (www.ralink.com.tw) took a design decision to incorporate the firmware - into an EEPROM

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-17 Thread David S. Miller
From: Jon Jahren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:15:43 +0200 > Hello, I'm new to the mailling list, and couldn't find any traces of > discussing this anywhere. I was wondering why neither the atheros driver > http://madwifi.sourceforge.net, or the rt2x00 driver >

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-17 Thread Daniel J Blueman
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Jon Jahren wrote: > Hello, I'm new to the mailling list, and couldn't find any traces of > discussing this anywhere. I was wondering why neither the atheros driver > http://madwifi.sourceforge.net, or the rt2x00 driver > http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com /wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-17 Thread joebob
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Jon Jahren wrote: > Hello, I'm new to the mailling list, and couldn't find any traces of > discussing this anywhere. I was wondering why neither the atheros driver > http://madwifi.sourceforge.net, or the rt2x00 driver > http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-17 Thread joebob
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Jon Jahren wrote: Hello, I'm new to the mailling list, and couldn't find any traces of discussing this anywhere. I was wondering why neither the atheros driver http://madwifi.sourceforge.net, or the rt2x00 driver http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page is

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-17 Thread Daniel J Blueman
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Jon Jahren wrote: Hello, I'm new to the mailling list, and couldn't find any traces of discussing this anywhere. I was wondering why neither the atheros driver http://madwifi.sourceforge.net, or the rt2x00 driver http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com /wiki/index.php/Main_Page is

Re: Atheros and rt2x00 driver

2005-08-17 Thread David S. Miller
From: Jon Jahren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:15:43 +0200 Hello, I'm new to the mailling list, and couldn't find any traces of discussing this anywhere. I was wondering why neither the atheros driver http://madwifi.sourceforge.net, or the rt2x00 driver