Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Petri Kaukasoina
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 06:49:39PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks > > Just why does not it use mtime then to check for New Mail Arrived, like I have always used: --enable-buffy-sizeUse file size attribute instead

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Valerie Henson
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:53:18PM +0200, Petri Kaukasoina wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 06:49:39PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > >The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks > > > > Just why does not it use mtime then to check for New Mail Arrived, like > > I

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Valerie Henson
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:40:10AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks > as you mentioned in the relatime changelog, so I'm surprised that > they turned it on by default. With relatime fixing that however, > I'm also unaware of

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Jörn Engel
On Mon, 12 February 2007 18:49:39 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Feb 12 2007 10:40, Dave Jones wrote: > > > >The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks > > Just why does not it use mtime then to check for New Mail Arrived, like > bash does? Just a guess: because it

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Hi, On Feb 12 2007 10:40, Dave Jones wrote: > > > Whilst on the subject of RELATIME, is there any good reason why > > > not to make this a default mount option ? > > > > Ubuntu has been shipping with noatime as the default for some time > > now, with no obvious problems (I'm running Ubuntu). I

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 10:55:04PM -0800, Valerie Henson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 07:54:00PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > > > Whilst on the subject of RELATIME, is there any good reason why > > not to make this a default mount option ? > > Ubuntu has been shipping with noatime as

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 10:55:04PM -0800, Valerie Henson wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 07:54:00PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: Whilst on the subject of RELATIME, is there any good reason why not to make this a default mount option ? Ubuntu has been shipping with noatime as the

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Hi, On Feb 12 2007 10:40, Dave Jones wrote: Whilst on the subject of RELATIME, is there any good reason why not to make this a default mount option ? Ubuntu has been shipping with noatime as the default for some time now, with no obvious problems (I'm running Ubuntu). I see relatime

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Jörn Engel
On Mon, 12 February 2007 18:49:39 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Feb 12 2007 10:40, Dave Jones wrote: The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks Just why does not it use mtime then to check for New Mail Arrived, like bash does? Just a guess: because it has to

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Valerie Henson
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:40:10AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks as you mentioned in the relatime changelog, so I'm surprised that they turned it on by default. With relatime fixing that however, I'm also unaware of anything

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Valerie Henson
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:53:18PM +0200, Petri Kaukasoina wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 06:49:39PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks Just why does not it use mtime then to check for New Mail Arrived, like I have always

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-12 Thread Petri Kaukasoina
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 06:49:39PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: The one problem with noatime is that mutt's 'new mail arrived' breaks Just why does not it use mtime then to check for New Mail Arrived, like I have always used: --enable-buffy-sizeUse file size attribute instead of

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-11 Thread Valerie Henson
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 07:54:00PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > Whilst on the subject of RELATIME, is there any good reason why > not to make this a default mount option ? Ubuntu has been shipping with noatime as the default for some time now, with no obvious problems (I'm running Ubuntu). I

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-11 Thread Valerie Henson
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:56:07AM -0800, Michael Kerrisk wrote: > Val, > > I'm just updating the mount(2) man page for MS_RELATIME, and this is the > text I've come up with: > >MS_RELATIME(Since Linux 2.6.20) > When a file on this file system is accessed, only >

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-11 Thread Valerie Henson
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:56:07AM -0800, Michael Kerrisk wrote: Val, I'm just updating the mount(2) man page for MS_RELATIME, and this is the text I've come up with: MS_RELATIME(Since Linux 2.6.20) When a file on this file system is accessed, only

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-11 Thread Valerie Henson
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 07:54:00PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: Whilst on the subject of RELATIME, is there any good reason why not to make this a default mount option ? Ubuntu has been shipping with noatime as the default for some time now, with no obvious problems (I'm running Ubuntu). I see

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-10 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:56:07AM -0800, Michael Kerrisk wrote: > Val, > > I'm just updating the mount(2) man page for MS_RELATIME, and this is the > text I've come up with: > >MS_RELATIME(Since Linux 2.6.20) > When a file on this file system is accessed, only >

Re: Documenting MS_RELATIME

2007-02-10 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:56:07AM -0800, Michael Kerrisk wrote: Val, I'm just updating the mount(2) man page for MS_RELATIME, and this is the text I've come up with: MS_RELATIME(Since Linux 2.6.20) When a file on this file system is accessed, only