Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)"

2007-10-07 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 7 2007 17:23, Alan Cox wrote: > >>>- If you want to do "pretty" boot up you do it in X or frame buffer >>>(which is going to get easier and easier with the X shift to kernel side >>>video support) >> >> fb is slow. Feels like a 9600bps serial line. > >So fix your fb. There is enough

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)"

2007-10-07 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Em Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 04:12:22PM +0100, Alan Cox escreveu: > > The few times I've tried to NAK something outright, I've always tried to > > attach > > plenty of technical explanation > > Fair comment to my "silly" response > > The problems I see are > > - We run on a lot more than VGA PC

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)"

2007-10-07 Thread Alan Cox
> >- If you want to do "pretty" boot up you do it in X or frame buffer > >(which is going to get easier and easier with the X shift to kernel side > >video support) > > fb is slow. Feels like a 9600bps serial line. So fix your fb. There is enough information to cover 2D scrolling for most modern

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)"

2007-10-07 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 7 2007 16:12, Alan Cox wrote: > >- We run on a lot more than VGA PC consoles >- We have serial consoles (which may or may not be VT132/ANSI compliant) Yes, and the serial driver does not usually pass on vc->vc_color to the real hardware. If it did, it would have to transform it back into

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)"

2007-10-07 Thread Alan Cox
> The few times I've tried to NAK something outright, I've always tried to > attach > plenty of technical explanation Fair comment to my "silly" response The problems I see are - We run on a lot more than VGA PC consoles - We have serial consoles (which may or may not be VT132/ANSI compliant)

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)

2007-10-07 Thread Alan Cox
The few times I've tried to NAK something outright, I've always tried to attach plenty of technical explanation Fair comment to my silly response The problems I see are - We run on a lot more than VGA PC consoles - We have serial consoles (which may or may not be VT132/ANSI compliant) -

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)

2007-10-07 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 7 2007 16:12, Alan Cox wrote: - We run on a lot more than VGA PC consoles - We have serial consoles (which may or may not be VT132/ANSI compliant) Yes, and the serial driver does not usually pass on vc-vc_color to the real hardware. If it did, it would have to transform it back into an

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)

2007-10-07 Thread Alan Cox
- If you want to do pretty boot up you do it in X or frame buffer (which is going to get easier and easier with the X shift to kernel side video support) fb is slow. Feels like a 9600bps serial line. So fix your fb. There is enough information to cover 2D scrolling for most modern cards

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)

2007-10-07 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Em Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 04:12:22PM +0100, Alan Cox escreveu: The few times I've tried to NAK something outright, I've always tried to attach plenty of technical explanation Fair comment to my silly response The problems I see are - We run on a lot more than VGA PC consoles - We

Re: NAK nettiquete (was Re: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)

2007-10-07 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 7 2007 17:23, Alan Cox wrote: - If you want to do pretty boot up you do it in X or frame buffer (which is going to get easier and easier with the X shift to kernel side video support) fb is slow. Feels like a 9600bps serial line. So fix your fb. There is enough information to cover 2D