On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
Chris Stromsoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Haven't tried later kernels, don't intend to, while no network
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
Chris Stromsoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >
> >> Haven't tried later kernels, don't intend to, while no network is
> >> really secure, it not
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
Chris Stromsoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Haven't tried later kernels, don't intend to, while no network is
really secure, it not really useful.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
Chris Stromsoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Haven't tried later kernels, don't intend to, while no network
On 9/5/07, Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The only known outstanding problems on 2.62.22.6 of sky2 are:
> * problems with fibre PHY based systems
> * suspend/resume issues, missing multicast reinitalization, etc.
> The previous stability problems have been addressed.
Sorry to
On 9/5/07, Stephen Hemminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only known outstanding problems on 2.62.22.6 of sky2 are:
* problems with fibre PHY based systems
* suspend/resume issues, missing multicast reinitalization, etc.
The previous stability problems have been addressed.
Sorry to
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 05:03:57PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > So if you want people to try a new driver, I think it really has to have
> > some benefits to the users, in terms of performance, reliability, or
> > features.
--- Stephen Hemminger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:13:26 +0200
> Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:42:20PM -0400, Kyle
> Rose wrote:
> > >
> > > > You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and
> therefore the sk98lin
> > > > removal
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:05:26AM +0200, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>>
>>> There are several different problems in this thread:
>>> 1. The removal of old sk98lin driver caused some users to be forced to
>>>
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:05:26AM +0200, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
There are several different problems in this thread:
1. The removal of old sk98lin driver caused some users to be forced to use
skge. These users have uncovered issues with the dual port fiber based
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:05:26AM +0200, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>
> There are several different problems in this thread:
> 1. The removal of old sk98lin driver caused some users to be forced to use
> skge. These users have uncovered issues with the dual port fiber based
> versions
>
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:13:26 +0200
Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:42:20PM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
> >
> > > You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
> > > removal can hardly be a surprise for you. If you prefer whining over
> > >
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:13:26 +0200
Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:42:20PM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
removal can hardly be a surprise for you. If you prefer whining over
helping to
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:05:26AM +0200, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
There are several different problems in this thread:
1. The removal of old sk98lin driver caused some users to be forced to use
skge. These users have uncovered issues with the dual port fiber based
versions
of the
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:05:26AM +0200, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
There are several different problems in this thread:
1. The removal of old sk98lin driver caused some users to be forced to use
skge. These users have uncovered issues with the dual port fiber based
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:05:26AM +0200, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
There are several different problems in this thread:
1. The removal of old sk98lin driver caused some users to be forced to
use
skge.
--- Stephen Hemminger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:13:26 +0200
Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:42:20PM -0400, Kyle
Rose wrote:
You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and
therefore the sk98lin
removal can hardly be a
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 05:03:57PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
So if you want people to try a new driver, I think it really has to have
some benefits to the users, in terms of performance, reliability, or
features. Cleaner
On Sep 10, 2007, at 11:39:53, Adrian Bunk wrote:
No, it is obsolete because we have more than one driver for this
hardware, and the people responsible for network drivers in the
kernel decided some time ago that sk98lin is the one that is obsolete.
I would like to happily report that the
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 10:32:45AM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> That was with 2.6.22.5 (or so), dropped back to an old kernel with
>>> sk98lin, previously had uptimes in three digit days. Up
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
...
That was with 2.6.22.5 (or so), dropped back to an old kernel with sk98lin,
previously had uptimes in three digit days. Up for a week or so now.
There is a real long-term advantage of removing
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
...
That was with 2.6.22.5 (or so), dropped back to an old kernel with sk98lin,
previously had uptimes in three digit days. Up for a week or so now.
There is a real long-term advantage of removing
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 10:32:45AM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
...
That was with 2.6.22.5 (or so), dropped back to an old kernel with
sk98lin, previously had uptimes in three digit days. Up for a week or so
On Sep 10, 2007, at 11:39:53, Adrian Bunk wrote:
No, it is obsolete because we have more than one driver for this
hardware, and the people responsible for network drivers in the
kernel decided some time ago that sk98lin is the one that is obsolete.
I would like to happily report that the
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Haven't tried later kernels, don't intend to, while no network is
really secure, it not really useful.
You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
removal can hardly
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:42:20PM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
>
> > You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
> > removal can hardly be a surprise for you. If you prefer whining over
> > helping to improve the kernel that's your choice...
> >
> In my case the issue is
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:42:20PM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
removal can hardly be a surprise for you. If you prefer whining over
helping to improve the kernel that's your choice...
In my case the issue is simply one
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Haven't tried later kernels, don't intend to, while no network is
really secure, it not really useful.
You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
removal can hardly
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:42:20PM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
>
> > You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
> > removal can hardly be a surprise for you. If you prefer whining over
> > helping to improve the kernel that's your choice...
> >
> In my case the issue is
> You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
> removal can hardly be a surprise for you. If you prefer whining over
> helping to improve the kernel that's your choice...
>
In my case the issue is simply one of practicality: I cannot go to the
data center 5 times per
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>...
> That was with 2.6.22.5 (or so), dropped back to an old kernel with sk98lin,
> previously had uptimes in three digit days. Up for a week or so now.
There is a real long-term advantage of removing drivers like sk98lin
because
James Corey wrote:
--- Stephen Hemminger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:01:30 -0600
Rob Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian
Bunk wrote:
The only known outstanding problems on 2.62.22.6 of
sky2 are:
* problems with fibre PHY
James Corey wrote:
--- Stephen Hemminger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:01:30 -0600
Rob Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian
Bunk wrote:
The only known outstanding problems on 2.62.22.6 of
sky2 are:
* problems with fibre PHY
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 01:44:20PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
...
That was with 2.6.22.5 (or so), dropped back to an old kernel with sk98lin,
previously had uptimes in three digit days. Up for a week or so now.
There is a real long-term advantage of removing drivers like sk98lin
because it
You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
removal can hardly be a surprise for you. If you prefer whining over
helping to improve the kernel that's your choice...
In my case the issue is simply one of practicality: I cannot go to the
data center 5 times per day
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:42:20PM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
You are a regular reader of linux-kernel, and therefore the sk98lin
removal can hardly be a surprise for you. If you prefer whining over
helping to improve the kernel that's your choice...
In my case the issue is simply one
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:04:59 -0400
Kyle Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > However, it really DOES lock up under load. I even
> > tried 2.6.23-rc4 and the absolute latest version of
> > the
> > driver and it still locks up, as in
> >
> Yich. I'm glad I'm still using sk98lin on my
> However, it really DOES lock up under load. I even
> tried 2.6.23-rc4 and the absolute latest version of
> the
> driver and it still locks up, as in
>
Yich. I'm glad I'm still using sk98lin on my unmanned colo box.
Kyle
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--- Stephen Hemminger
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> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:01:30 -0600
> Rob Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian
> Bunk wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle
> Rose wrote:
> > > > >From
>
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:01:30 -0600
Rob Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
> > > >From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
> > >
> > > Since the sky2 driver continues
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:01:30 -0600
Rob Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass
--- Stephen Hemminger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:01:30 -0600
Rob Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian
Bunk wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle
Rose wrote:
From
However, it really DOES lock up under load. I even
tried 2.6.23-rc4 and the absolute latest version of
the
driver and it still locks up, as in
Yich. I'm glad I'm still using sk98lin on my unmanned colo box.
Kyle
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:04:59 -0400
Kyle Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, it really DOES lock up under load. I even
tried 2.6.23-rc4 and the absolute latest version of
the
driver and it still locks up, as in
Yich. I'm glad I'm still using sk98lin on my unmanned colo box.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
> > >From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
> >
> > Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
> > description for "it hangs all the time
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for it hangs all the time under load, at
> Does skge work for your hardware?
I unloaded sky2 and loaded skge at one point, but it didn't recognize my
hardware. Perhaps it doesn't work with the 88E8053?
Kyle
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Thanks for the pointer. I've done this, and created an actual kernel
module tarball that is now available at
http://www.krose.org/~krose/projects/sk98lin/sk98lin.tar.gz.
Thanks,
Kyle
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Jul 26 2007 12:30, Kyle Rose wrote:
>>> Sorry for the nitpick, it can be done easier
Kyle Rose wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for "it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
hardware" :-) ), I've fixed the sk98lin driver to compile for
linux-2.6.23-rc1. Those who
Bill Davidsen wrote:
The old driver wasn't requiring any resources to maintain, the old
This statement proves you don't know anything at all about the situation.
Jeff
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Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
>From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for "it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
hardware" :-) ), I've fixed the
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for "it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
hardware"
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:16:36 -0400
Kyle Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
>
> Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
> description for "it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
> hardware" :-) ), I've fixed the
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
> >From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
>
> Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
> description for "it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
> hardware" :-) ), I've fixed the sk98lin driver
On Jul 26 2007 12:30, Kyle Rose wrote:
>> Sorry for the nitpick, it can be done easier :)
>
>I'm sure it can. I didn't want to have to figure out the kernel build
>system just to get this one driver working. Hence my desire for it to
>remain in the kernel proper until sky2 utterly works. ;-)
> Sorry for the nitpick, it can be done easier :)
I'm sure it can. I didn't want to have to figure out the kernel build
system just to get this one driver working. Hence my desire for it to
remain in the kernel proper until sky2 utterly works. ;-)
Kyle
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On Jul 26 2007 11:16, Kyle Rose wrote:
>
> 1.
>
> Make sure you have the headers for your kernel properly installed
> and linked to /usr/src/linux-$KVER.
Why is this a requirement? Makefile not properly done?
> 4.
>
> Look in /tmp for a directory called Sk98something. Go to
Thanks for the pointer. I've done this, and created an actual kernel
module tarball that is now available at
http://www.krose.org/~krose/projects/sk98lin/sk98lin.tar.gz.
Thanks,
Kyle
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Jul 26 2007 12:30, Kyle Rose wrote:
Sorry for the nitpick, it can be done easier :)
Does skge work for your hardware?
I unloaded sky2 and loaded skge at one point, but it didn't recognize my
hardware. Perhaps it doesn't work with the 88E8053?
Kyle
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Kyle Rose wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
hardware :-) ), I've fixed the sk98lin driver to compile for
linux-2.6.23-rc1. Those who continue
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
hardware :-)
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
hardware :-) ), I've fixed the sk98lin driver to
On Jul 26 2007 12:30, Kyle Rose wrote:
Sorry for the nitpick, it can be done easier :)
I'm sure it can. I didn't want to have to figure out the kernel build
system just to get this one driver working. Hence my desire for it to
remain in the kernel proper until sky2 utterly works. ;-)
Oh it's
Sorry for the nitpick, it can be done easier :)
I'm sure it can. I didn't want to have to figure out the kernel build
system just to get this one driver working. Hence my desire for it to
remain in the kernel proper until sky2 utterly works. ;-)
Kyle
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Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
hardware :-) ), I've fixed the
On Jul 26 2007 11:16, Kyle Rose wrote:
1.
Make sure you have the headers for your kernel properly installed
and linked to /usr/src/linux-$KVER.
Why is this a requirement? Makefile not properly done?
4.
Look in /tmp for a directory called Sk98something. Go to
Why
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:16:36 -0400
Kyle Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
description for it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
hardware :-) ), I've fixed the sk98lin
Bill Davidsen wrote:
The old driver wasn't requiring any resources to maintain, the old
This statement proves you don't know anything at all about the situation.
Jeff
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