Re: wierd file perms
ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 An fsck did it :) and had the source restored by checkout -f Think Jan is right, there is a diff between the two... On 10/15/07, Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: > >> Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> wrote: > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: > > total 0 > ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs > > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms > or ownership even as root. > >>> Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. > >> No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory > >> has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. > > > > Er, close. > > > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a > > /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied > > total 0 > > -? ? ? ? ?? b > > 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version > > ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 > > > > > > There is a difference .. "-?" vs "?-". > > That's just a version difference for GNU ls. > Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: > > ?- ? ? ? ?? a/b > > > -- -- "Why is it that every time I'm with you, makes me believe in magic?" - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. "-?" vs "?-". That's just a version difference for GNU ls. Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: ?- ? ? ? ?? a/b - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: > Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: >> On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: >> > >> > total 0 >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs >> > >> > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms >> > or ownership even as root. >> >> Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. > > No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory > has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. "-?" vs "?-". The first looks to me like "filetype known (S_IFREG)", while the latter is "filetype and mode unknown". - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Sun, 2007-10-14 09:29:01 -0400, Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > vignesh babu wrote: > .. > >?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c > >?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c > >?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c > >?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c > >?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs > > > >So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms > >or ownership even as root. > > > >Can some one help please? > > chmod a+x name_of_directory > > Now you can do "ls -l" and "rm" or whatever. *cough* The original mail you're replying to had this inside: > > I was hitting another issue with permissions-as root :( > > I really think he better starts a fsck... Soon. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-172-7608481 Signature of: Wenn ich wach bin, träume ich. the second : signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wierd file perms
vignesh babu wrote: .. ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Can some one help please? chmod a+x name_of_directory Now you can do "ls -l" and "rm" or whatever. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Eg. mkdir a touch a/b chmod 644 a ls -l a Try it! Cheers - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Oct 14 2007 14:30, Bauke Jan Douma wrote: >> On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: >> > >> > total 0 >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c >> > ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs >> > >> > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms >> > or ownership even as root. >> >> Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. > > I don't think this is a bug, but a feature of 'ls', see for instance > the coreutils mailing list: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2007-05/msg00226.html - broken on-disk fs - you are not allowed to stat() -- which can only reasonably happen with FUSE or remote filesystems - ls also outputs ?- if the file mode does not make sense, though as we can see, UID/GID nlink, etc. are also missing, so I suspect item 2. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote on 13-10-07 19:28: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. MfG, JBG I don't think this is a bug, but a feature of 'ls', see for instance the coreutils mailing list: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2007-05/msg00226.html bjd - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote on 13-10-07 19:28: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. MfG, JBG I don't think this is a bug, but a feature of 'ls', see for instance the coreutils mailing list: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2007-05/msg00226.html bjd - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Oct 14 2007 14:30, Bauke Jan Douma wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. I don't think this is a bug, but a feature of 'ls', see for instance the coreutils mailing list: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2007-05/msg00226.html - broken on-disk fs - you are not allowed to stat() -- which can only reasonably happen with FUSE or remote filesystems - ls also outputs ?- if the file mode does not make sense, though as we can see, UID/GID nlink, etc. are also missing, so I suspect item 2. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Eg. mkdir a touch a/b chmod 644 a ls -l a Try it! Cheers - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
vignesh babu wrote: .. ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Can some one help please? chmod a+x name_of_directory Now you can do ls -l and rm or whatever. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Sun, 2007-10-14 09:29:01 -0400, Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vignesh babu wrote: .. ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Can some one help please? chmod a+x name_of_directory Now you can do ls -l and rm or whatever. *cough* The original mail you're replying to had this inside: I was hitting another issue with permissions-as root :( I really think he better starts a fsck... Soon. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-172-7608481 Signature of: Wenn ich wach bin, träume ich. the second : signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wierd file perms
On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. -? vs ?-. The first looks to me like filetype known (S_IFREG), while the latter is filetype and mode unknown. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. -? vs ?-. That's just a version difference for GNU ls. Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: ?- ? ? ? ?? a/b - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 An fsck did it :) and had the source restored by checkout -f Think Jan is right, there is a diff between the two... On 10/15/07, Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote: Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions. Er, close. 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm md a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm touch a/b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm chmod 644 a 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls -l a /bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied total 0 -? ? ? ? ?? b 16:02 ichi:/dev/shm ls --version ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9 There is a difference .. -? vs ?-. That's just a version difference for GNU ls. Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this: ?- ? ? ? ?? a/b -- -- Why is it that every time I'm with you, makes me believe in magic? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: wierd file perms
On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: > > total 0 > ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c > ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs > > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms > or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-172-7608481 Signature of: Zensur im Internet? Nein danke! the second : signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wierd file perms
On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found: total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? fcntl.c ?- ? ? ? ?? fifo.c ?- ? ? ? ?? filesystems.c ?- ? ? ? ?? file_table.c ?- ? ? ? ?? freevxfs So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms or ownership even as root. Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck. MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-172-7608481 Signature of: Zensur im Internet? Nein danke! the second : signature.asc Description: Digital signature
