Re: TBS 6980 Dual Tuner PCI-e card.....not in Wiki at all?
Another Sillyname wrote: Guys The TBS 6920 PCI-e card is in the Wiki and is a supported card. The TBS 6980 dual tuner PCI-e card is not in the Wiki at all, is there a reason for this given they have released a non GPL blob at least? Because the wiki relies upon user contributions. No contributions, no information. Simple as that. Also is there a reason that an indicative price for supported cards is not shown in the wiki? It would save a load of time rather then having to search on each card only to find out it's ridiculously priced at $1000. I for one am not particularly keen on inclusion of prices because: - prices are highly subject to temporal variance (i.e. what costs $150 now could be $80 in six months) - prices are often highly variant across broad geographical regions (i.e. what costs $70US in America could, after accounting for exchange rates, cost an equivalent of $100US within Canada) - prices are often highly variant within local geographical markets (i.e what costs $99 at the local big box Bestbuy store could easily cost $79 at the local mompop computer store) - prices require regular updating/maintenance in order for them to be in any way indicative ... the wiki relies upon user contributions ... ergo, I can already tell you in advance that its not going to happen (because its a time consuming endeavour, and there is no critical mass of contributors to keep the information relevant), and so, any original submissions will inevitably just end up suffering information rot (and, thus, end up not being indicative or of particular use for the end user). -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual Tuner PCI-e card.....not in Wiki at all?
hello, i can't comment on your questions about the Wiki, but i made the driver for TBS 6980 and i can ensure you that the driver will be released as open-source under GPL as soon as i have permission to do that, but compared to other cards at least even at the moment you can Does this card need some firmware (and if it needs is it open or closed source) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual Tuner PCI-e card.....not in Wiki at all?
Konstantin Dimitrov a écrit : hello, i can't comment on your questions about the Wiki, but i made the driver for TBS 6980 and i can ensure you that the driver will be released as open-source under GPL as soon as i have permission to do that, but compared to other cards at least even at the moment you can use the card in Linux and it's very easy to add support for it using the binary modules even to the latest V4L code from repository and so those blobs are actually not so big limitation. also, you are very wrong about the price - as far as i know retails price is less than 200 USD, for example TBS online shop gives a price of 158.99 USD: http://www.buydvb.net/pcie-dvbs2-dual-tuner-tv-card_p11.html and i believe the dual DVB-S2 card with price of 1000 USD that you're talking about is the NetUP one and not the TurboSight TBS 6980 dual DVB-S2 card. I have two questions for you: do these board support (or will support in the near future) a CI interface for pay TV, and what is the best symbol rate they can achieve in DVB-S2 (I think I need QPSK only but could be 8PSK) RELIABLY. TIA Bye Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual Tuner PCI-e card.....not in Wiki at all?
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Emmanuel eall...@gmail.com wrote: Konstantin Dimitrov a écrit : hello, i can't comment on your questions about the Wiki, but i made the driver for TBS 6980 and i can ensure you that the driver will be released as open-source under GPL as soon as i have permission to do that, but compared to other cards at least even at the moment you can use the card in Linux and it's very easy to add support for it using the binary modules even to the latest V4L code from repository and so those blobs are actually not so big limitation. also, you are very wrong about the price - as far as i know retails price is less than 200 USD, for example TBS online shop gives a price of 158.99 USD: http://www.buydvb.net/pcie-dvbs2-dual-tuner-tv-card_p11.html and i believe the dual DVB-S2 card with price of 1000 USD that you're talking about is the NetUP one and not the TurboSight TBS 6980 dual DVB-S2 card. I have two questions for you: do these board support (or will support in the near future) a CI interface for pay TV, and what is the best symbol rate they can achieve in DVB-S2 (I think I need QPSK only but could be 8PSK) TBS 6980 specifications are: DVB-S QPKS: 1000 - 45000 kSps DVB-S2 QPSK and 8PSK: 2000 - 36000 kSps but i personally have tested DVB-S2 8PSK up to 33500 kSps and it works fine. so, DVB-S2 symbol rate range is still better than what most other cards can offer i believe, which usually support 1 - 3 kSps for DVB-S2. TBS are developing card that will support 1000 - 45000 kSps for DVB-S2 (both QPSK and 8PSK), but i believe it won't be released any time soon. RELIABLY. TIA Bye Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual Tuner PCI-e card.....not in Wiki at all?
Konstantin Dimitrov a écrit : On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Emmanuel eall...@gmail.com mailto:eall...@gmail.com wrote: Konstantin Dimitrov a écrit : hello, i can't comment on your questions about the Wiki, but i made the driver for TBS 6980 and i can ensure you that the driver will be released as open-source under GPL as soon as i have permission to do that, but compared to other cards at least even at the moment you can use the card in Linux and it's very easy to add support for it using the binary modules even to the latest V4L code from repository and so those blobs are actually not so big limitation. also, you are very wrong about the price - as far as i know retails price is less than 200 USD, for example TBS online shop gives a price of 158.99 USD: http://www.buydvb.net/pcie-dvbs2-dual-tuner-tv-card_p11.html and i believe the dual DVB-S2 card with price of 1000 USD that you're talking about is the NetUP one and not the TurboSight TBS 6980 dual DVB-S2 card. I have two questions for you: do these board support (or will support in the near future) a CI interface for pay TV, and what is the best symbol rate they can achieve in DVB-S2 (I think I need QPSK only but could be 8PSK) RELIABLY. TBS 6980 specifications are: DVB-S QPKS: 1000 - 45000 kSps DVB-S2 QPSK and 8PSK: 2000 - 36000 kSps but i personally have tested DVB-S2 8PSK up to 33500 kSps and it works fine. so, DVB-S2 symbol rate range is still better than what most other cards can offer i believe, which usually support 1 - 3 kSps for DVB-S2. TBS are developing card that will support 1000 - 45000 kSps for DVB-S2 (both QPSK and 8PSK), but i believe it won't be released any time soon. OK Thansks. I am interested in a DVB-S2 card able to tune to 45000kSps rate with CI support (yes my provider here did things so that it is hard to get rid of their STB :( ) The only one for now are the cards based upon stv0900 like the mystique satix, but I am not sure about the driver supporting CI. Bye Manu -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
TBS 6980 Dual Tuner PCI-e card.....not in Wiki at all?
Guys The TBS 6920 PCI-e card is in the Wiki and is a supported card. The TBS 6980 dual tuner PCI-e card is not in the Wiki at all, is there a reason for this given they have released a non GPL blob at least? Also is there a reason that an indicative price for supported cards is not shown in the wiki? It would save a load of time rather then having to search on each card only to find out it's ridiculously priced at $1000. Thanks -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: TBS 6980 Dual Tuner PCI-e card.....not in Wiki at all?
hello, i can't comment on your questions about the Wiki, but i made the driver for TBS 6980 and i can ensure you that the driver will be released as open-source under GPL as soon as i have permission to do that, but compared to other cards at least even at the moment you can use the card in Linux and it's very easy to add support for it using the binary modules even to the latest V4L code from repository and so those blobs are actually not so big limitation. also, you are very wrong about the price - as far as i know retails price is less than 200 USD, for example TBS online shop gives a price of 158.99 USD: http://www.buydvb.net/pcie-dvbs2-dual-tuner-tv-card_p11.html and i believe the dual DVB-S2 card with price of 1000 USD that you're talking about is the NetUP one and not the TurboSight TBS 6980 dual DVB-S2 card. --konstantin On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Another Sillyname anothersn...@googlemail.com wrote: Guys The TBS 6920 PCI-e card is in the Wiki and is a supported card. The TBS 6980 dual tuner PCI-e card is not in the Wiki at all, is there a reason for this given they have released a non GPL blob at least? Also is there a reason that an indicative price for supported cards is not shown in the wiki? It would save a load of time rather then having to search on each card only to find out it's ridiculously priced at $1000. Thanks -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
