Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-23 Thread Hans Verkuil
On 06/21/2014 12:07 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
 On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
 Hello,

 It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
 releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?
 
 I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the 'installed
 kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on Monday. After that
 I think it's OK to do a release.
 
 Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps from
 contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as well.

Gregor,

I'm all done, so you can make a new release whenever you want.

Regards,

Hans
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Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-23 Thread Hans Verkuil
On 06/21/2014 12:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:07:57 +0200
 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:
 
 On 06/21/2014 12:29 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:07:19 +0200
 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:

 On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
 Hello,

 It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
 releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?

 I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the 'installed
 kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on Monday. After that
 I think it's OK to do a release.

 Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps from
 contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as well.

 Well, I don't remember about such email, nor I was able to find on a quick
 look.

 https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg76120.html

 Marked with ATTN as well!
 
 Well, from my side, feel free to drop those 3 utilities. If you drop v4lgrab,
 you'll need to check the DocBook Makefile scripts, as it used to have some
 automation to include it at the media DocBook. 
 
 I think that this was removed in the past, but it doesn't hurt to
 double-check.
 

 What apps are you planning to remove?

 Btw, I think it could be a good idea to be able to install some of those
 stuff under contrib to a separate package. I had to do a quick hack
 in order to install v4l2grab on a Tizen package, in order to be able to
 test a card there (as was needing to do some tests via CLI).

 What does v4l2grab offer that v4l2-ctl doesn't? I would be much more inclined
 to remove v4l2grab.
 
 I never used v4l2-ctl for streaming (didn't even know/remember) that it was
 capable of doing that ;) 

It was added about a year ago or something like that.

 Looking at --help-streaming, though, one thing that it is not clear there
 is what's the format of the output, when --stream-to= is used. 

Completely raw output.

 Btw, I think that one big miss on v4l2-ctl is the lack of a man page witch
 would have an EXAMPLES section explaining things like that.

Absolutely. With a bit of luck I might have time for that fairly soon.

 One of the advantages of v4l2grab is that it takes per-frame snapshots, 
 instead
 of writing a stream file. Those snapshots help to identify, for example, if
 there are interlacing issues on a frame, or if some frames have some other
 problems.

You can dump just a single frame as well with v4l2-ctl (--stream-count=1).

 Also, v4l2grab is a good example of how to use libv4l, and it is enclosed
 at DocBook (not sure if we're using automation to allow including
 the latest version of it):
   http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/v4l2grab-example.html

Isn't capture.c.xml much more useful as example code? I have to admit, I
didn't know v4l2grab.c was used as an example.

 
 So, I don't think we should remove it.

No problem.

Regards,

Hans

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Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-23 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:22:18 +0200
Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:

 On 06/21/2014 12:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
  Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:07:57 +0200
  Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:
  
  On 06/21/2014 12:29 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
  Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:07:19 +0200
  Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:
 
  On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
  Hello,
 
  It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
  releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?
 
  I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the 'installed
  kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on Monday. After 
  that
  I think it's OK to do a release.
 
  Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps from
  contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as well.
 
  Well, I don't remember about such email, nor I was able to find on a quick
  look.
 
  https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg76120.html
 
  Marked with ATTN as well!
  
  Well, from my side, feel free to drop those 3 utilities. If you drop 
  v4lgrab,
  you'll need to check the DocBook Makefile scripts, as it used to have some
  automation to include it at the media DocBook. 
  
  I think that this was removed in the past, but it doesn't hurt to
  double-check.
  
 
  What apps are you planning to remove?
 
  Btw, I think it could be a good idea to be able to install some of those
  stuff under contrib to a separate package. I had to do a quick hack
  in order to install v4l2grab on a Tizen package, in order to be able to
  test a card there (as was needing to do some tests via CLI).
 
  What does v4l2grab offer that v4l2-ctl doesn't? I would be much more 
  inclined
  to remove v4l2grab.
  
  I never used v4l2-ctl for streaming (didn't even know/remember) that it was
  capable of doing that ;) 
 
 It was added about a year ago or something like that.
 
  Looking at --help-streaming, though, one thing that it is not clear there
  is what's the format of the output, when --stream-to= is used. 
 
 Completely raw output.
 
  Btw, I think that one big miss on v4l2-ctl is the lack of a man page witch
  would have an EXAMPLES section explaining things like that.
 
 Absolutely. With a bit of luck I might have time for that fairly soon.
 
  One of the advantages of v4l2grab is that it takes per-frame snapshots, 
  instead
  of writing a stream file. Those snapshots help to identify, for example, if
  there are interlacing issues on a frame, or if some frames have some other
  problems.
 
 You can dump just a single frame as well with v4l2-ctl (--stream-count=1).

It is not the same. What I do with v4l2grab is to ask it to capture
30 seconds, storing frame by frame. Then, I can see if each frame is
ok or not.

Btw, capturing just one frame with some webcams with auto bright will
likely just get a black frame.

 
  Also, v4l2grab is a good example of how to use libv4l, and it is enclosed
  at DocBook (not sure if we're using automation to allow including
  the latest version of it):
  http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/v4l2grab-example.html
 
 Isn't capture.c.xml much more useful as example code? I have to admit, I
 didn't know v4l2grab.c was used as an example.

I would prefer to remove capture.c, as it doesn't use libv4l. We do
want that newer applications would use libv4l.

 
  
  So, I don't think we should remove it.
 
 No problem.
 
 Regards,
 
   Hans
 
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Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-23 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Mauro,

On Monday 23 June 2014 07:58:37 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 Em Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:22:18 +0200 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
  On 06/21/2014 12:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
  Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:07:57 +0200 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
  On 06/21/2014 12:29 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
  Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:07:19 +0200 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
  On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
  Hello,
  
  It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
  releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?
  
  I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the
  'installed kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on
  Monday. After that I think it's OK to do a release.
  
  Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps
  from contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as
  well.
  
  Well, I don't remember about such email, nor I was able to find on a
  quick look.
  
  https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg76120.html
  
  Marked with ATTN as well!
  
  Well, from my side, feel free to drop those 3 utilities. If you drop
  v4lgrab, you'll need to check the DocBook Makefile scripts, as it used
  to have some automation to include it at the media DocBook.
  
  I think that this was removed in the past, but it doesn't hurt to
  double-check.
  
  What apps are you planning to remove?
  
  Btw, I think it could be a good idea to be able to install some of
  those stuff under contrib to a separate package. I had to do a quick
  hack in order to install v4l2grab on a Tizen package, in order to be
  able to test a card there (as was needing to do some tests via CLI).
  
  What does v4l2grab offer that v4l2-ctl doesn't? I would be much more
  inclined to remove v4l2grab.
  
  I never used v4l2-ctl for streaming (didn't even know/remember) that it
  was capable of doing that ;)
  
  It was added about a year ago or something like that.
  
  Looking at --help-streaming, though, one thing that it is not clear
  there is what's the format of the output, when --stream-to= is used.
  
  Completely raw output.
  
  Btw, I think that one big miss on v4l2-ctl is the lack of a man page
  witch would have an EXAMPLES section explaining things like that.
  
  Absolutely. With a bit of luck I might have time for that fairly soon.
  
  One of the advantages of v4l2grab is that it takes per-frame snapshots,
  instead of writing a stream file. Those snapshots help to identify, for
  example, if there are interlacing issues on a frame, or if some frames
  have some other problems.
  
  You can dump just a single frame as well with v4l2-ctl (--stream-count=1).
 
 It is not the same. What I do with v4l2grab is to ask it to capture
 30 seconds, storing frame by frame. Then, I can see if each frame is
 ok or not.
 
 Btw, capturing just one frame with some webcams with auto bright will
 likely just get a black frame.
 
  Also, v4l2grab is a good example of how to use libv4l, and it is
  enclosed at DocBook (not sure if we're using automation to allow
  including the latest version of it):
 http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/v4l2grab-example.html
  
  Isn't capture.c.xml much more useful as example code? I have to admit, I
  didn't know v4l2grab.c was used as an example.
 
 I would prefer to remove capture.c, as it doesn't use libv4l. We do
 want that newer applications would use libv4l.

In most cases we do, but some specialized application still have use cases for 
using the V4L2 kernel API directly. Isn't example code still valuable for them 
?

  So, I don't think we should remove it.
  
  No problem.

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Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-21 Thread Hans Verkuil
On 06/21/2014 12:29 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
 Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:07:19 +0200
 Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:
 
 On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
 Hello,

 It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
 releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?

 I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the 'installed
 kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on Monday. After that
 I think it's OK to do a release.

 Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps from
 contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as well.
 
 Well, I don't remember about such email, nor I was able to find on a quick
 look.

https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg76120.html

Marked with ATTN as well!

 
 What apps are you planning to remove?
 
 Btw, I think it could be a good idea to be able to install some of those
 stuff under contrib to a separate package. I had to do a quick hack
 in order to install v4l2grab on a Tizen package, in order to be able to
 test a card there (as was needing to do some tests via CLI).

What does v4l2grab offer that v4l2-ctl doesn't? I would be much more inclined
to remove v4l2grab.

Regards,

Hans

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Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-21 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:07:57 +0200
Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:

 On 06/21/2014 12:29 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
  Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:07:19 +0200
  Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:
  
  On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
  Hello,
 
  It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
  releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?
 
  I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the 'installed
  kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on Monday. After that
  I think it's OK to do a release.
 
  Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps from
  contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as well.
  
  Well, I don't remember about such email, nor I was able to find on a quick
  look.
 
 https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg76120.html
 
 Marked with ATTN as well!

Well, from my side, feel free to drop those 3 utilities. If you drop v4lgrab,
you'll need to check the DocBook Makefile scripts, as it used to have some
automation to include it at the media DocBook. 

I think that this was removed in the past, but it doesn't hurt to
double-check.

  
  What apps are you planning to remove?
  
  Btw, I think it could be a good idea to be able to install some of those
  stuff under contrib to a separate package. I had to do a quick hack
  in order to install v4l2grab on a Tizen package, in order to be able to
  test a card there (as was needing to do some tests via CLI).
 
 What does v4l2grab offer that v4l2-ctl doesn't? I would be much more inclined
 to remove v4l2grab.

I never used v4l2-ctl for streaming (didn't even know/remember) that it was
capable of doing that ;) 

Looking at --help-streaming, though, one thing that it is not clear there
is what's the format of the output, when --stream-to= is used. 

Btw, I think that one big miss on v4l2-ctl is the lack of a man page witch
would have an EXAMPLES section explaining things like that.

One of the advantages of v4l2grab is that it takes per-frame snapshots, instead
of writing a stream file. Those snapshots help to identify, for example, if
there are interlacing issues on a frame, or if some frames have some other
problems.

Also, v4l2grab is a good example of how to use libv4l, and it is enclosed
at DocBook (not sure if we're using automation to allow including
the latest version of it):
http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/v4l2grab-example.html

So, I don't think we should remove it.

 
 Regards,
 
   Hans
 
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Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-20 Thread Gregor Jasny
Hello,

It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?

Mauro, you tried to re-license the DVB library. What's the status there?

Thanks,
Gregor
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Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-20 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Fri, 20 Jun 2014 22:31:13 +0200
Gregor Jasny gja...@googlemail.com escreveu:

 Hello,
 
 It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
 releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?
 
 Mauro, you tried to re-license the DVB library. What's the status there?

Hi Gregor,

I was missing one formal ack on that. However, the previous demand of
re-licinsing it as LGPL has gone, as gstreamer developers decided to
implement DVBv5 there directly.

So, I decided to keep it as-is for now, as there's no gain currently on
changing the license.

From my side, please go ahead and release 1.2 ;)

Regards,
Mauro

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Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-20 Thread Hans Verkuil
On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
 Hello,
 
 It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
 releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?

I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the 'installed
kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on Monday. After that
I think it's OK to do a release.

Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps from
contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as well.

Regards,

Hans

 Mauro, you tried to re-license the DVB library. What's the status there?
 
 Thanks,
 Gregor
 

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Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

2014-06-20 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:07:19 +0200
Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl escreveu:

 On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
  Hello,
  
  It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
  releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?
 
 I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the 'installed
 kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on Monday. After that
 I think it's OK to do a release.
 
 Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps from
 contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as well.

Well, I don't remember about such email, nor I was able to find on a quick
look.

What apps are you planning to remove?

Btw, I think it could be a good idea to be able to install some of those
stuff under contrib to a separate package. I had to do a quick hack
in order to install v4l2grab on a Tizen package, in order to be able to
test a card there (as was needing to do some tests via CLI).

Regards,
Mauro
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