Re: bttv and colorspace
Hi Andy, On 06/20/2014 12:24 PM, Andy Walls wrote: On Fri, 2014-06-20 at 09:07 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote: Hi Mauro, I wonder if you remember anything about the reported broken colorspace handling of bttv. The spec talks about V4L2_COLORSPACE_BT878 where the Y range is 16-253 instead of the usual 16-235. I downloaded a bt878 datasheet and that mentions the normal 16-235 range. I wonder if this was perhaps a bug in older revisions of the bt878. Do you remember anything about this? I have a Rockwell datasheet for the BrookTree 878/879 that has the Y 16-253 (16 is the pedestal level) and Cr/Cb 2-253 on page 118. I did look at this closer and this is actually not what you think it is. Page 40 describes the actual YCrCb to RGB conversion and this clearly states that the Y range is [16, 235]. However, as is standard with YCrCb values, you can get excursions into the 16 or 235 ranges. Depending on how it is digitized these may be clamped to the 16-235 range by the hardware, or they are just passed on. The purpose of the RANGE bit in the OFORM register is to prevent the SAV/EAV 0x00 and 0xff control codes from being output as part of the actual video should excursions that low/high happen. So the bttv does not have a 'broken' colorspace, it is doing standard YCrCb format. It doesn't do any hardware clamping to the [16-235] range ([16-240] for Cr/Cb), so it is perfectly possible that lower/higher values are captured. That probably confused people in the past into thinking that there was a problem with the bttv colorspace. This also means that the bttv driver works properly since it sets the SMPTE170M colorspace and never uses the 'broken' bttv colorspace. The spec should be enhanced to document this. Regards, Hans -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
bttv and colorspace
Hi Mauro, I wonder if you remember anything about the reported broken colorspace handling of bttv. The spec talks about V4L2_COLORSPACE_BT878 where the Y range is 16-253 instead of the usual 16-235. I downloaded a bt878 datasheet and that mentions the normal 16-235 range. I wonder if this was perhaps a bug in older revisions of the bt878. Do you remember anything about this? I plan on doing some tests with my bttv cards next week. The main reason I'm interested in this is that I am researching the colorspace handling in v4l2 (and how it is defined in the spec). That needs to be nailed down because today nobody really knows how it is supposed to work and it is a complicated topic. Regards, Hans -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: bttv and colorspace
On Fri, 2014-06-20 at 09:07 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote: Hi Mauro, I wonder if you remember anything about the reported broken colorspace handling of bttv. The spec talks about V4L2_COLORSPACE_BT878 where the Y range is 16-253 instead of the usual 16-235. I downloaded a bt878 datasheet and that mentions the normal 16-235 range. I wonder if this was perhaps a bug in older revisions of the bt878. Do you remember anything about this? I have a Rockwell datasheet for the BrookTree 878/879 that has the Y 16-253 (16 is the pedestal level) and Cr/Cb 2-253 on page 118. I will email to you off list. Regards, Andy I plan on doing some tests with my bttv cards next week. The main reason I'm interested in this is that I am researching the colorspace handling in v4l2 (and how it is defined in the spec). That needs to be nailed down because today nobody really knows how it is supposed to work and it is a complicated topic. Regards, Hans -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
