Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-12-07 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Michael Krufky wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:02 PM, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: No activity in this thread for 2 weeks now. Has there been any progress? I have stated that I like Manu's proposal, but I would prefer that the get_property (s2api) interface were used, because it

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-12-07 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Michael Krufky wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:02 PM, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: No activity in this thread for 2 weeks now. Has there been any progress? I have stated that I like Manu's proposal, but I would prefer that the get_property (s2api)

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-12-05 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Michael Krufky wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:02 PM, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: I have stated that I like Manu's proposal, but I would prefer that the get_property (s2api) interface were used, because it totally provides an interface that is sufficient for this feature. Manu and I

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-12-05 Thread Michael Krufky
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Michael Krufky wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:02 PM, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: I have stated that I like Manu's proposal, but I would prefer that the get_property (s2api) interface were used, because

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-12-05 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Michael Krufky wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Michael Krufky wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:02 PM, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: I have stated that I like Manu's proposal, but I would prefer that the get_property (s2api)

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-12-04 Thread VDR User
No activity in this thread for 2 weeks now. Has there been any progress? Regards. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-media in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-20 Thread Manu Abraham
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Manu Abraham escreveu: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Em Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org escreveu: Hi folks,

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-20 Thread Julian Scheel
Am Freitag, 20. November 2009 10:29:34 schrieb Manu Abraham: Let me explain a bit. The current issue that persists as Devin explained in another email explains things to a certain extend, but still i think it might be better to detail further. Generally a request can be classified to 3 basic

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-20 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Julian Scheel jul...@jusst.de wrote: Am Freitag, 20. November 2009 10:29:34 schrieb Manu Abraham: Let me explain a bit. The current issue that persists as Devin explained in another email explains things to a certain extend, but still i think it might be better

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-20 Thread Julian Scheel
Manu Abraham schrieb Not only is it time critical, but it should also be atomic, ie it should be all in one go, ie one single snapshot of an event, not events bunched together serially. Things wont seem that atomic on a system with a large load. Latency will have a significant effect on the

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-18 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: We shouldn't write API's thinking on some specific use case or aplication. If there's a problem with zap, the fix should be there, not at the kernel. Your response suggests I must have poorly described the

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-18 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: We shouldn't write API's thinking on some specific use case or aplication. If there's a problem with zap, the fix should be there, not at the kernel. Your response suggests I must

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-18 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: We shouldn't write API's thinking on some specific use case or aplication. If there's a problem with

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Krufky
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: We shouldn't

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-18 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: We shouldn't write API's thinking on some specific use case or aplication. If there's a problem with

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-17 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Manu Abraham escreveu: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Em Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org escreveu: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the DVB frontend API. I've read linux-dvb-api-1.0.0.pdf, it

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-17 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: I don't like the idea of creating structs grouping those parameters. While for certain devices this may mean a more direct approach, for others, this may not make sense, due to the way their API's were

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-17 Thread Jean Delvare
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:55:51 -0500, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: I don't like the idea of creating structs grouping those parameters. While for certain devices this may mean a more direct approach, for others,

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-11-17 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Devin Heitmueller escreveu: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: I don't like the idea of creating structs grouping those parameters. While for certain devices this may mean a more direct approach, for others, this may not make sense, due to

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-24 Thread David T. L. Wong
Jean Delvare wrote: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the DVB frontend API. I've read linux-dvb-api-1.0.0.pdf, it roughly explains what the FE_READ_BER, FE_READ_SNR, FE_READ_SIGNAL_STRENGTH and FE_READ_UNCORRECTED_BLOCKS commands return, however it does not give any information about

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-23 Thread Jean Delvare
Hi Devin, On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:27:20 -0400, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org wrote: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the DVB frontend API. I've read linux-dvb-api-1.0.0.pdf, it roughly explains what the FE_READ_BER,

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-23 Thread Jean Delvare
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:10:25 +0900, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org escreveu: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the DVB frontend API. I've read linux-dvb-api-1.0.0.pdf, it roughly explains what the FE_READ_BER,

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-23 Thread Jean Delvare
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote: For example, the signal strength. All I know so far is that this is a 16-bit value. But then what? Do greater values represent stronger signal or weaker signal? Are 0x and 0x special values? Is the returned value meaningful even

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-23 Thread Michael Krufky
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote: For example, the signal strength. All I know so far is that this is a 16-bit value. But then what? Do greater values represent stronger signal or weaker signal? Are

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-23 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com wrote: Sometime back, (some time in April) i proposed a patch which addressed the issue to scale even those devices which have a weird scale or none. Though based on an older tree of mine, here is the patch again. If it looks

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-23 Thread Markus Rechberger
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:02 PM, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com wrote: Sometime back, (some time in April) i proposed a patch which addressed the issue to scale even those devices which have a weird scale or none. Though

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-22 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org wrote: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the DVB frontend API. I've read linux-dvb-api-1.0.0.pdf, it roughly explains what the FE_READ_BER, FE_READ_SNR, FE_READ_SIGNAL_STRENGTH and FE_READ_UNCORRECTED_BLOCKS commands

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-22 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com wrote: I could have had this problem solved six months ago for 98% of the community, and instead we are right where we have been since the beginning of the project. This is really a shame too considering the

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-22 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org escreveu: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the DVB frontend API. I've read linux-dvb-api-1.0.0.pdf, it roughly explains what the FE_READ_BER, FE_READ_SNR, FE_READ_SIGNAL_STRENGTH and FE_READ_UNCORRECTED_BLOCKS

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-22 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Em Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org escreveu: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the DVB frontend API. I've read linux-dvb-api-1.0.0.pdf, it roughly explains what

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-22 Thread Markus Rechberger
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Em Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200 Jean Delvare kh...@linux-fr.org escreveu: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-22 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Markus Rechberger mrechber...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@infradead.org wrote: Em Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:13:30 +0200 Jean Delvare

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-22 Thread Steven Toth
We did discuss this briefly during the v4l-dvb mini-summit and I know Mike Krufky knew what to do about this, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was. I should have made a note of it... Mike, can you refresh my memory? You are correct Hans. Mike has some patches that begin to

Re: Details about DVB frontend API

2009-10-22 Thread Mike Booth
On Friday 23 October 2009 06:13:30 Jean Delvare wrote: Hi folks, I am looking for details regarding the DVB frontend API. I've read linux-dvb-api-1.0.0.pdf, it roughly explains what the FE_READ_BER, FE_READ_SNR, FE_READ_SIGNAL_STRENGTH and FE_READ_UNCORRECTED_BLOCKS commands return, however