* Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that
years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task
so that it was only used as a final, last-ditch
approach for really
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 03:56:11PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue 2007-11-13 12:50:08, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that
years ago bisection of a bug was a very laborous task
so
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 06:59:34AM +0100, Rene Herman wrote:
On 15-11-07 05:16, Bron Gondwana wrote:
Totally unrelated - I sent something to the kolab mailing list a couple
[ ... ]
I'm sure if I had something that I considered worth informing the ALSA
project of, I'd be wary of spending
On 15-11-07 13:02, Bron Gondwana wrote:
I get the same information from both project websites: moderated for
non-members, public archives - no way of knowing that ALSA will accept
me informing them of something they would be interested without
committing to reading or bit-bucketing their
On Thu, 15 November 2007 13:26:51 +0100, Rene Herman wrote:
Can you please just shelve this crap? You have a way of knowing that ALSA
will accept you and that is knowing or assuming that the ALSA project
doesn't consist of drooling retards.
Well, my experience with moderation has been that
On 15-11-07 14:00, Jörn Engel wrote:
And even without mails being held hostage for weeks, every single
moderation mail is annoying. Like the one I'm sure to receive after
sending this out.
Certainly. Upto this thread I wasn't actually aware the list was doing that.
While it might be
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:23:34PM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote:
I don't see any reason that we couldn't have a tool accessible to Ubuntu
users that does a real git bisect. Git is really good at being scripted
by fancy GUIs. It should be easy
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:32:01 -0800
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 +
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By doing so you've just said (implicitly) that you can not tolerate
someone having a different opinion from your own.
I
From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list,
it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators
have been doing our best to moderate quickly (I tend to stay logged in to
On 14-11-07 12:56, David Miller wrote:
From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list,
it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators
have been doing our best to
On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
See? I got another one and I have received
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the
following over
On 14-11-07 13:01, David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the
following over the past 2 days.
Nah, in
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their
git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then.
And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything
complex, it mostly moves code around, removes
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:30 +0100,
Rene Herman wrote:
On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking regressions should
be discussed and fixed on lkml, like most other
Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's
not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you
do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the
linux-2.6 directory.
..
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking
Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 00:27, Adrian Bunk wrote:
You missed the following in my email:
we slowly scare them away due to the many bug reports without any
reaction.
The problem is that bug reports take time. If you go away from easy
things like compile errors
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:24:48PM +, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275
Kernel: 2.6.23
This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM
No response from developers
Maybe I'm optimistic,
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote:
From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all
on lkml we'd
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed it.
I didn't miss your claim.
---
~Randy
___
Linux PCMCIA reimplementation list
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed
it.
I didn't miss your claim.
ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-)
Ingo
* David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all
on lkml we'd all be aware
* James Bottomley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote:
From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
some of those bugs were already
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:37:37 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-)
No, I don't intend to carry on this discussion,
but I appreciate the smiley.
---
~Randy
___
Linux PCMCIA reimplementation list
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Dumping even more crap on lkml is not the answer.
that crap that i'd like to see dumped upon lkml would be netdev
traffic mainly - most of the other kernel development lists (and i'm
subscribed to many of them) are low-traffic. netdev is the main
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote:
There are two parts to this. One is a Ubuntu development kernel which
we can give to large numbers of people to expand our testing pool.
But if we don't do a better job of responding to bug reports that
would be generated by expanded testing this
On 15-11-07 05:16, Bron Gondwana wrote:
Totally unrelated - I sent something to the kolab mailing list a couple
[ ... ]
I'm sure if I had something that I considered worth informing the ALSA
project of, I'd be wary of spending the same effort writing a good post
knowing it may be dropped
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This is the listing of the open bugs that are relatively new, around
2.6.22 and up. They are vaguely classified by specific area.
(not a full list, there are more :)
The good part is that reporters of the bugs
On Tue, Nov 13 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
I/O STORAGE===
kernel bug from pktcdvd
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9294
Kernel: 2.6.23
I think we might have fixed this.
It's fixed and merged, I just forgot to close the
On 13-11-2007 12:15, Andrew Morton wrote:
...
Zero responses from developers
...
No response from developers
...
Andreas did some work, seemed to lose interest.
...
Rafael poked Thomas a week ago, to no effect. Thomas has been travelling.
Looks like very reproducible!
Maybe you should add
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:39:46 -0800 (PST) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:15:53 -0800
NETWORKING===
RTNLGRP_ND_USEROPT does not report ifindex (IPv6)
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:49:16 -0800
Do you believe that our response to bug reports is adequate?
Do you feel that making us feel and look like shit helps?
I guess I'm just masterbating here all night long with the 46
bug fixes I've reviewed fully and
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:15:53 -0800
NETWORKING===
RTNLGRP_ND_USEROPT does not report ifindex (IPv6)
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9349
Kernel: 2.6.24+
No response from
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:12:59 -0800
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:58:24 -0800 (PST) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:49:16 -0800
Do you believe that our response to bug reports is
Andrew Morton wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
..
with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23 doesn't
boot (ARM, Timer)
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9229
Kernel: 2.6.23
No response from developers
..
Ingo Molnar wrote:
..
This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for
years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs and
that is our QA answer, which is a _good_ answer but by far
Mark Lord wrote:
Andrew Morton wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
..
Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275
Kernel: 2.6.23
This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM
No
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 03:15 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
SCSI==
qla2xxx: driver initialization does not complete when booting with
Port connected
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9267
Kernel: 2.6.23.1
No
On Nov 13, 2007 3:08 PM, Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
..
This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for
years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Andrew Morton wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23 doesn't
boot (ARM, Timer)
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9229
* Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
..
This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for years,
in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs and that is
our QA
* Benoit Boissinot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For debugging, maybe it's time someone does an amazon ec2+s3 service
to automate the bisecting and create .deb/.rpm from git, I don't know
how much it would cost though.
a few months ago i estimated the costs of this and it's just a few
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:40:29 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you believe that our response to bug reports is adequate?
Do you feel that making us feel and look like shit helps?
That doesn't answer my question.
See, first we need to
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote:
Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros
(gentoo-ubuntu)
and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm kernels (I
know this isn't a lkml problem
but more a distro problem, but I would
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:33:21 -0600 James Bottomley wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 03:15 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
SCSI==
qla2xxx: driver initialization does not complete when booting with
Port connected
Theodore Tso wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote:
Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros
(gentoo-ubuntu)
and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm kernels (I
know this isn't a lkml problem
but more a distro
Thomas Gleixner wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
..
I *still* get very slow resume-from-RAM quite often here
(new in 2.6.23 kernel, wasn't there in early 2.6.23-rc*).
..
Something eventually times out after a minute or so
and it comes back. Cannot make it happen reliably,
unless
FILE SYSTEMS===
ext4: delalloc space accounting problem drops data
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9329
Kernel: 2.6.24-rc1
No response from developers
Actually, there has been a response (Eric asked in mailing list and
Thomas Gleixner wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Andrew Morton wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23 doesn't
boot (ARM, Timer)
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of
a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final,
last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can autonomouly
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 12:50 -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection
of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final,
last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we can autonomouly
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection of
a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a final,
last-ditch approach for really nasty bugs. Today we
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:07:21PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Andrew Morton wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23 doesn't
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:18:43PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
for example git-bisect was godsent. I remember that years ago bisection
of a bug was a very laborous task so that it was only used as a
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:50:08PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
It's a 540MByte download over a slow link for everyone else.
Where do you get this number from?
$ du -sh .git/objects/pack/
249M.git/objects/pack/
$ du -sh .git/objects/
253M.git/objects/
ie about
Adrian Bunk wrote:
...
I did bisecting myself, and I know that it costs time and work.
But the first point is the above one that it makes otherwise nearly
undebuggable problems debuggable and fixable.
..
Definitely useful, no question.
But the problem is now that kernel devs are addicted
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:43:53PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
mkdir t
cd t
git clone
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
(wait half an hour)
/usr/bin/du -s linux-2.6
522732 linux-2.6
You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:43:53PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
ie about half what you claim.
..
No, it's from earlier in this very thread:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
git clone \
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
..
mkdir t
cd t
git
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:33:44AM -0600, Larry Finger wrote:
I'm very encouraged to read of your expanded testing efforts. As a
bcm43xx developer, Ubuntu has been our problem distro, mostly
because your standard kernels have debugging turned off for bcm43xx.
When a Ubuntu user reports a
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
...
I did bisecting myself, and I know that it costs time and work.
But the first point is the above one that it makes otherwise nearly
undebuggable problems debuggable and fixable.
..
Definitely useful, no
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote:
Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros
(gentoo-ubuntu)
and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
...
I did bisecting myself, and I know that it costs time and work.
But the first point is the above one that it makes otherwise nearly
undebuggable problems debuggable and fixable.
..
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
..
Another point is that it shifts the work from the few experienced
developers to the many users. Users (and voluntary testers) we have
many, but developer time for debugging bug reports is a
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 02:12:57PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:47:10PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Adrian Bunk wrote:
...
I did bisecting myself, and I know that it costs time and work.
But the first point is the above one that it makes otherwise nearly
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:32:07AM -0800, David Miller wrote:
Luckily if the report being ignored isn't chaff, it will show up again
(and again and again) and this triggers a reprioritization because not
only is the bug no longer chaff, it also now got a lot of information
tagged to it so it's
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:08:32AM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
..
This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for
years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 08:30:35PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
There is this silly limit that noone can work more than 168 hours per
week on the Linux kernel, and some kernel developers seem to take the
liberty of spending even less time on kernel development...
That limit of 168 hours applies
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:32:19PM +, Russell King wrote:
...
There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the
classic case of not enough people reading bugzilla bugs - which is one
of the biggest problems with bugzilla. Virtually no one in the ARM
community looks
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 02:26:05PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
..
If you've been making significant updates to a driver/subsystem,
and people are reporting that it is now broken for them,
What are significant updates?
Sometimes one person makes one small patch and this
Russell King wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:08:32AM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
..
This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for
years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source
On Tue, 13 November 2007 15:18:07 -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
I just find it weird that something can be known broken for several -rc*
kernels before I happen to install it, discover it's broken on my own
machine,
and then I track it down, fix it, and submit the patch, generally all
within a
On Tuesday, 13 of November 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:43:53PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
mkdir t
cd t
git clone
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
(wait half an hour)
/usr/bin/du -s linux-2.6
522732
Romano Giannetti wrote:
This was what I did in my (in the end almost successful) bisecting when
trying to find the mmc problem (see the thread named 2.6.24-rc1 eat my
SD card). This is true in theory, but it has some problem. The this
commit does not compile is the easiest and in man
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:52:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:32:19 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the
classic case of not enough people reading bugzilla bugs - which is one
of the
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:52:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:32:19 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the
classic
Jörn Engel wrote:
On Tue, 13 November 2007 15:18:07 -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
I just find it weird that something can be known broken for several -rc*
kernels before I happen to install it, discover it's broken on my own
machine,
and then I track it down, fix it, and submit the patch,
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:25:16PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
Given the wide range of ARM platforms today, it is utterly idiotic to
expect a single person to be able to provide responses for all ARM bugs.
I for one wish I'd never *VOLUNTEERED* to be a part of the kernel
bugzilla, and really
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:24:14 +0100 Jörn Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 13 November 2007 13:56:58 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
It's relatively common that a regression in subsystem A will manifest as a
failure in subsystem B, and the report initially lands on the desk of the
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Thomas Gleixner wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Andrew Morton wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:09:37 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 02:32:01PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:52:22PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:13:19PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:32:19PM +, Russell King wrote:
...
There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the
classic case of not enough people reading bugzilla bugs - which is one
of the biggest
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:29:54 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:13:19PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:32:19PM +, Russell King wrote:
...
There's another issue I want to raise concerning bugzilla. We have the
classic case
Thomas Gleixner wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Thomas Gleixner wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Andrew Morton wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:42:32 -0800 Natalie Protasevich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..
with CONFIG_NO_HZ and/or CONFIG_HPET_TIMER set kernel 2.6.23
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 03:18:07PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Russell King wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:08:32AM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
..
This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 07:08, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
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This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for
years, in favor of the all-too-easy open source means many eyeballs and
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 11:57, Gabriel C wrote:
The main problem is finding experienced developers who spend time on
looking into bug reports.
There are already. IMO the problem is the development model.
There are tons new features in each new kernel release and 'tons new bugs'
which
On 11/13/2007 04:12 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
Bug fixing is not about finding someone to blame, it's about getting the
bug fixed.
Partly - its also about understanding why the bug occurred and making it
not happen again.
Very few people think about that part.
From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:40:33 +
ARM ep93xx defconfig has been broken since 2.6.23-git1 due to:
drivers/net/arm/ep93xx_eth.c:420: error: implicit declaration of function
'__netif_rx_schedule_prep'
caused by: [NET]: Make NAPI polling independent
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Let me just say - I'm astonished at how little spam gets though the vger
lists. Considering how many times those email addresses must have been
added to spam databases.
It must be a
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:56:06AM +0100, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
If so, MANITAINERS claims that it is subscribers-only. That would cause
some bug reporters to give up and go away.
Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
non-subscribers only mailing
From: Sam Ravnborg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:56:06 +0100
If so, MANITAINERS claims that it is subscribers-only. That would cause
some bug reporters to give up and go away.
Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
non-subscribers
This is the listing of the open bugs that are relatively new, around
2.6.22 and up. They are vaguely classified by specific area.
(not a full list, there are more :)
The good part is that reporters of the bugs below are still around and
haven't dissipated, or disposed of their hardware, so it is
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