Re: RAID 5 performance issue.

2007-10-08 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Dean S. Messing wrote: Justin Piszcz wrote: On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Dean S. Messing wrote: Brendan Conoboy wrote: snip Is the onboard SATA controller real SATA or just an ATA-SATA converter? If the latter, you're going to have trouble getting faster performance than any

very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Janek Kozicki
Hello, Recently I started to use mdadm and I'm very impressed by its capabilities. I have raid0 (250+250 GB) on my workstation. And I want to have raid5 (4*500 = 1500 GB) on my backup machine. The backup machine currently doesn't have raid, just a single 500 GB drive. I plan to buy more HDDs

Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Janek Kozicki wrote: Hello, Recently I started to use mdadm and I'm very impressed by its capabilities. I have raid0 (250+250 GB) on my workstation. And I want to have raid5 (4*500 = 1500 GB) on my backup machine. The backup machine currently doesn't have raid, just a

Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Richard Scobie
Janek Kozicki wrote: Is it possible anyhow to create a very degraded raid array - a one that consists of 4 drives, but has only TWO ? No, but you can make a degraded 3 drive array, containing 2 drives and then add the next drive to complete it. The array can then be grown (man mdadm, GROW

RE: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Guy Watkins
} -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:linux-raid- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Scobie } Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:27 PM } To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org } Subject: Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs } } Janek Kozicki wrote:

Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Janek Kozicki
Richard Scobie said: (by the date of Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:26:35 +1300) No, but you can make a degraded 3 drive array, containing 2 drives and then add the next drive to complete it. The array can then be grown (man mdadm, GROW section), to add the fourth. Oh, good. Thanks, I must've

Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Janek Kozicki
Janek Kozicki said: (by the date of Tue, 9 Oct 2007 00:25:50 +0200) Richard Scobie said: (by the date of Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:26:35 +1300) No, but you can make a degraded 3 drive array, containing 2 drives and then add the next drive to complete it. The array can then be grown

Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Michael Tokarev
Janek Kozicki wrote: Hello, Recently I started to use mdadm and I'm very impressed by its capabilities. I have raid0 (250+250 GB) on my workstation. And I want to have raid5 (4*500 = 1500 GB) on my backup machine. Hmm. Are you sure you need that much space on the backup, to start with?

RE: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Guy Watkins
} -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:linux-raid- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janek Kozicki } Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:47 PM } To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org } Subject: Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs } } Janek Kozicki said:

Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Neil Brown
On Tuesday October 9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o degraded raid5 isn't really Raid - i.e, it's not any better than a raid0 array, that is, any disk fails = the whole array fails. So instead of creating a degraded raid5 array initially, create smaller one instead, but not degraded, and

Re: very degraded RAID5, or increasing capacity by adding discs

2007-10-08 Thread Neil Brown
On Tuesday October 9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problems at step 4.: 'man mdadm' doesn't tell if it's possible to grow an array to a degraded array (non existant disc). Is it possible? Why not experiment with loop devices on files and find out? But yes: you can grow to a degraded array