Re: [RFC 2/4] lib/strncpy_from_user: Remove redundant user space pointer range check

2020-01-15 Thread Vineet Gupta
On 1/15/20 6:42 AM, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
>> -   max_addr = user_addr_max();
>> -   src_addr = (unsigned long)untagged_addr(src);
>
> If you end up changing this code, you need to keep the untagged_addr()
> logic, otherwise this breaks arm64 tagged address ABI [1].

It is moot point now, but fwiw untagged_addr() would not have been needed 
anymore
as it was only needed to compute the pointer difference which my patch got rid 
of.

> 
> [1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/arm64/tagged-address-abi.html
> 
>> -   if (likely(src_addr < max_addr)) {
>> -   unsigned long max = max_addr - src_addr;
>> +   kasan_check_write(dst, count);
>> +   check_object_size(dst, count, false);
>> +   if (user_access_begin(src, count)) {

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Re: [RFC 2/4] lib/strncpy_from_user: Remove redundant user space pointer range check

2020-01-14 Thread Al Viro
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 01:22:07PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> The fact is, copying a string from user space is *very* different from
> copying a fixed number of bytes, and that whole dance with
> 
> max_addr = user_addr_max();
> 
> is absolutely required and necessary.
> 
> You completely broke string copying.

BTW, a quick grep through the callers has found something odd -
static ssize_t kmemleak_write(struct file *file, const char __user *user_buf,
  size_t size, loff_t *ppos)
{
char buf[64];
int buf_size;
int ret;

buf_size = min(size, (sizeof(buf) - 1));
if (strncpy_from_user(buf, user_buf, buf_size) < 0)
return -EFAULT;
buf[buf_size] = 0;

What the hell?  If somebody is calling write(fd, buf, n) they'd
better be ready to see any byte from buf[0] up to buf[n - 1]
fetched, and if something is unmapped - deal with -EFAULT.
Is something really doing that and if so, why does kmemleak
try to accomodate that idiocy?

The same goes for several more ->write() instances - mtrr_write(),
armada_debugfs_crtc_reg_write() and cio_ignore_write(); IMO that's
seriously misguided (and cio one ought use vmemdup_user() instead
of what it's doing)...


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Re: [RFC 2/4] lib/strncpy_from_user: Remove redundant user space pointer range check

2020-01-14 Thread Vineet Gupta
On 1/14/20 1:22 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM Vineet Gupta
>  wrote:
>>
>> This came up when switching ARC to word-at-a-time interface and using
>> generic/optimized strncpy_from_user
>>
>> It seems the existing code checks for user buffer/string range multiple
>> times and one of tem cn be avoided.
> 
> NO!
> 
> DO NOT DO THIS.
> 
> This is seriously buggy.
> 
>>  long strncpy_from_user(char *dst, const char __user *src, long count)
>>  {
>> -   unsigned long max_addr, src_addr;
>> -
>> if (unlikely(count <= 0))
>> return 0;
>>
>> -   max_addr = user_addr_max();
>> -   src_addr = (unsigned long)untagged_addr(src);
>> -   if (likely(src_addr < max_addr)) {
>> -   unsigned long max = max_addr - src_addr;
>> +   kasan_check_write(dst, count);
>> +   check_object_size(dst, count, false);
>> +   if (user_access_begin(src, count)) {
> 
> You can't do that "user_access_begin(src, count)", because "count" is
> the maximum _possible_ length, but it is *NOT* necessarily the actual
> length of the string we really get from user space!
> 
> Think of this situation:
> 
>  - user has a 5-byte string at the end of the address space
> 
>  - kernel does a
> 
>  n = strncpy_from_user(uaddr, page, PAGE_SIZE)
> 
> now your "user_access_begin(src, count)" will _fail_, because "uaddr"
> is close to the end of the user address space, and there's not room
> for PAGE_SIZE bytes any more.

Oops indeed that was the case I didn't comprehend. In my initial tests with
debugger, every single hit on strncpy_from_user() had user addresses well into 
the
address space such that @max was ridiculously large (0x_ - ptr) compared
to @count.

> But "count" isn't actually how many bytes we will access from user
> space, it's only the maximum limit on the *target*. IOW, it's about a
> kernel buffer size, not about the user access size.

Right I understood all that, but missed the case when user buffer is towards end
of address space and access_ok() will erroneously flag it.

> Because we'll only access that 5-byte string, which fits just fine in
> the user space, and doing that "user_access_begin(src, count)" gives
> the wrong answer.
> 
> The fact is, copying a string from user space is *very* different from
> copying a fixed number of bytes, and that whole dance with
> 
> max_addr = user_addr_max();
> 
> is absolutely required and necessary.
> 
> You completely broke string copying.

I'm sorry and I wasn't sure to begin with hence the disclaimer in 0/4

> It is very possible that string copying was horribly broken on ARC
> before too - almost nobody ever gets this right, but the generic
> routine does.

No it is not. It is just dog slow since it does byte copy and uses the Zero 
delay
loops which I'm trying to get rid of. That's when I recalled the word-at-a-time
API which I'd meaning to go back to for last 7 years :-)

-Vineet

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Re: [RFC 2/4] lib/strncpy_from_user: Remove redundant user space pointer range check

2020-01-14 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM Vineet Gupta
 wrote:
>
> This came up when switching ARC to word-at-a-time interface and using
> generic/optimized strncpy_from_user
>
> It seems the existing code checks for user buffer/string range multiple
> times and one of tem cn be avoided.

NO!

DO NOT DO THIS.

This is seriously buggy.

>  long strncpy_from_user(char *dst, const char __user *src, long count)
>  {
> -   unsigned long max_addr, src_addr;
> -
> if (unlikely(count <= 0))
> return 0;
>
> -   max_addr = user_addr_max();
> -   src_addr = (unsigned long)untagged_addr(src);
> -   if (likely(src_addr < max_addr)) {
> -   unsigned long max = max_addr - src_addr;
> +   kasan_check_write(dst, count);
> +   check_object_size(dst, count, false);
> +   if (user_access_begin(src, count)) {

You can't do that "user_access_begin(src, count)", because "count" is
the maximum _possible_ length, but it is *NOT* necessarily the actual
length of the string we really get from user space!

Think of this situation:

 - user has a 5-byte string at the end of the address space

 - kernel does a

 n = strncpy_from_user(uaddr, page, PAGE_SIZE)

now your "user_access_begin(src, count)" will _fail_, because "uaddr"
is close to the end of the user address space, and there's not room
for PAGE_SIZE bytes any more.

But "count" isn't actually how many bytes we will access from user
space, it's only the maximum limit on the *target*. IOW, it's about a
kernel buffer size, not about the user access size.

Because we'll only access that 5-byte string, which fits just fine in
the user space, and doing that "user_access_begin(src, count)" gives
the wrong answer.

The fact is, copying a string from user space is *very* different from
copying a fixed number of bytes, and that whole dance with

max_addr = user_addr_max();

is absolutely required and necessary.

You completely broke string copying.

It is very possible that string copying was horribly broken on ARC
before too - almost nobody ever gets this right, but the generic
routine does.

So the generic routine is not only faster, it is *correct*, and your
change broke it.

Don't touch generic code. If you want to use the generic code, please
do so. But DO NOT TOUCH IT. It is correct, your patch is wrong.

The exact same issue is true in strnlen_user(). Don't break it.

  Linus

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