Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 10 March 2007, Adam Kropelin wrote: >Jiri Kosina wrote: >> I am still however pretty far from being convinced that this will make >> your application work. But as I absolutely don't know what your >> application is expecting to obtain from serial port and how does this >> compare to wha

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 10 March 2007, Jiri Kosina wrote: >On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >I think there is alternative for you that can be done completely in >> >userland, without seeding mess into the kernel driver - do you think >> > it would be feasible that you create a trivial and small libr

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 10 March 2007, Jiri Kosina wrote: >On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >So these broken programs think that while talking to hiddev device, >> > they are in fact receiving data from serial port, right? >> >> I believe that to be the case, this code is very old and moldy. > >That

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Adam Kropelin
Jiri Kosina wrote: > I am still however pretty far from being convinced that this will make > your application work. But as I absolutely don't know what your > application is expecting to obtain from serial port and how does this > compare to what it is getting from usb hiddev, it's just wild guess

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: > >I think there is alternative for you that can be done completely in > >userland, without seeding mess into the kernel driver - do you think it > >would be feasible that you create a trivial and small library, that > I'm not up to writing a library. 15

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: > >So these broken programs think that while talking to hiddev device, they > >are in fact receiving data from serial port, right? > I believe that to be the case, this code is very old and moldy. That's quite sad. In fact, it would quite surprise me if th

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 10 March 2007, Jiri Kosina wrote: >On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >> I believe the problem to be that when their version of upsd is trying >> to open the /dev/name its given, it is assuming and hard coded to do >> the ioctl's to set the ports speed in baudrate, width of word, p

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 10 March 2007, Jiri Kosina wrote: >On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Oh? I wasn't aware of that. What other data paths can it use besides >> a usb port? > >Until 2.6.20, HID in kernel was USB-only thing. In 2.6.20 I have > distilled the generic HID layer, which is now also ho

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: > Oh? I wasn't aware of that. What other data paths can it use besides a > usb port? Until 2.6.20, HID in kernel was USB-only thing. In 2.6.20 I have distilled the generic HID layer, which is now also hooked by the Bluetooth code, as there are many Blu

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-10 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: > I believe the problem to be that when their version of upsd is trying to > open the /dev/name its given, it is assuming and hard coded to do the > ioctl's to set the ports speed in baudrate, width of word, parity etc. Hi Gene, first, sorry for replying

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 09 March 2007, Adam Kropelin wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 08 March 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Greetings; >>> >>> Belkin is being non-responsive to requests for updated drivers for >>> their line of UPS's, all of which now have a USB port which is the >>> Belkin recommende

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-09 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:28:24 -0500, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > should. Try to resend to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and cc: to linux-kernel. HID > > is not specific to USB. > I did just now send a message to jiri, but it bounced at approximately C > speed, plus or minus a few percent. >

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 09 March 2007, Adam Kropelin wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 08 March 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Greetings; >>> >>> Belkin is being non-responsive to requests for updated drivers for >>> their line of UPS's, all of which now have a USB port which is the >>> Belkin recommende

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 09 March 2007, Pete Zaitcev wrote: >On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:03:32 -0500, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Its been about a day now, and no one has commented. Am I an idiot or >> ?? > >I think it means that Jiri Kosina is not on this list. I haven't got >a clue if what you propo

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-09 Thread Adam Kropelin
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 08 March 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings; >> >> Belkin is being non-responsive to requests for updated drivers for >> their line of UPS's, all of which now have a USB port which is the >> Belkin recommended way to talk to these things. >> >> Unforch, the bel

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-09 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:03:32 -0500, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its been about a day now, and no one has commented. Am I an idiot or ?? I think it means that Jiri Kosina is not on this list. I haven't got a clue if what you propose is a good idea... Although in theory I should. Try

Re: [linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 08 March 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >Greetings; > >Belkin is being non-responsive to requests for updated drivers for their >line of UPS's, all of which now have a USB port which is the Belkin >recommended way to talk to these things. > >Unforch, the belkin supplied *nix stuff was last c

[linux-usb-devel] Question re hiddev

2007-03-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; Belkin is being non-responsive to requests for updated drivers for their line of UPS's, all of which now have a USB port which is the Belkin recommended way to talk to these things. Unforch, the belkin supplied *nix stuff was last compiled on an rh5.2 machine using gcc-2.7.2, so the