On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Alan Stern wrote:
> In the end, we may be forced not to autosuspend keyboards and mice.
> There are lots of problems. One is broken hardware, as we see here.
This is unfortunate, but I suspect you're right. We may need a
userspace database of devices which are known n
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, Robert Marquardt wrote:
> Alan Stern schrieb:
>
> > Does Windows ever actually suspend the keyboard at all?
>
> I do not know. I prefer switching off my computer.
> The main differences i see for HID devices with the OS running is that
> Windows constantly sends Keep Alive p
Alan Stern schrieb:
> Does Windows ever actually suspend the keyboard at all?
I do not know. I prefer switching off my computer.
The main differences i see for HID devices with the OS running is that
Windows constantly sends Keep Alive packets and that it polls the
devices always. Linux only po
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Kay Sievers wrote:
>
> > It's a recent standard and cheap Logitec mouse. If you can't reproduce
> > it, let me know if I should try to capture the traffic.
>
> Hi Kay and Alan,
>
> actually I found a random logitech optical mouse her
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Robert Marquardt wrote:
> Jiri Kosina schrieb:
>
> > It could be that only the light goes on for a few seconds (Alan, are you
> > sure that the power would not suffice?), but the mouse is not issuing any
> > wakeup request.
>
> If a USB device suspends because te bus goes i
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Kay Sievers wrote:
> It's a recent standard and cheap Logitec mouse. If you can't reproduce
> it, let me know if I should try to capture the traffic.
Hi Kay and Alan,
actually I found a random logitech optical mouse here (VID:PID 046d:c019)
and can observe precisely the sam
Jiri Kosina schrieb:
> It could be that only the light goes on for a few seconds (Alan, are you
> sure that the power would not suffice?), but the mouse is not issuing any
> wakeup request.
If a USB device suspends because te bus goes idle then it is allowed to
draw 2.5 mA if it is a 500 mA de
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 18:54 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Alan Stern wrote:
>
>> It's totally bogus! With no driver loaded, the mouse won't be enabled
>> for remote wakeup. Consequently it should never be resumed, no matter
>> what you do to it. If it does send a wakeup reques
Alan Stern wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Alan Stern wrote:
>>
>> > It's totally bogus! With no driver loaded, the mouse won't be enabled
>> > for remote wakeup. Consequently it should never be resumed, no matter
>> > what you do to it. If it does send a
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007 schrieb Jiri Kosina:
> > OK, it seems that vendors of usb keyboards probably rely too much on fact
> > that the keyboards could be quite slow and flaky without anyone
> > complaining under normal load, and therefore implement t
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Alan Stern wrote:
>
> > It's totally bogus! With no driver loaded, the mouse won't be enabled
> > for remote wakeup. Consequently it should never be resumed, no matter
> > what you do to it. If it does send a wakeup request then th
Am Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007 schrieb Jiri Kosina:
> OK, it seems that vendors of usb keyboards probably rely too much on fact
> that the keyboards could be quite slow and flaky without anyone
> complaining under normal load, and therefore implement the things very
> badly. Oliver, I currently think
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Alan Stern wrote:
> It's totally bogus! With no driver loaded, the mouse won't be enabled
> for remote wakeup. Consequently it should never be resumed, no matter
> what you do to it. If it does send a wakeup request then the mouse is
> buggy. Conversely, if the mouse does
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Kay Sievers wrote:
> > During a lunch at OLS you mentioned something about watching the LED on
> > your USB mouse turn on and off as it autosuspended and resumed. I
> > don't remember the details, but it sounded peculiar. Can you explain
> > what you were referring to?
>
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