RUTE (was: How do I see the Fat32 patition?)

2004-05-29 Thread Ken.McAllister
Barry wrote: Others have answered your specific question. For a lot of help/advice (for the experienced as well as beginners) I suggest you download the Rute manual. Google for it. Mine is in html and bookmarked in my favourite browser. As you familiarise yourself with it your knowledge of linux

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Brendan Greer
The Rute manual is free and is a good newbie resource. The what manual?

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 21:09, Brendan Greer wrote: The Rute manual is free and is a good newbie resource. The what manual? its a linux manual. google it.

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Jim Cheetham
On May 25, 2004, at 9:09 PM, Brendan Greer wrote: The Rute manual is free and is a good newbie resource. The what manual? The Rute manual. http://www.google.com/search?q=the+rute+manual = http://rute.sourceforge.net = http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html (eventually, it's very slow)

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 25 May 2004 00:45, Sascha Beaumont wrote: Don Gould wrote: | bb. Books. | | I have read just about every book in the public library on Linux now. | | I have found most to be very shallow with 3 or less pages on any one | subject. Most are nothing more than a copy of the man pages

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Nick Rout
How big is it Chris (the book I mean) On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 00:06, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 25 May 2004 00:45, Sascha Beaumont wrote: Don Gould wrote: | bb. Books. | | I have read just about every book in the public library on Linux now. | | I have found most to be very

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Andrew Errington
On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:28, you wrote: How big is it Chris (the book I mean) It's about 1.5 thick. A copy is available in the library. Andy

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 26 May 2004 09:16:03 +1200 Andrew Errington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:28, you wrote: How big is it Chris (the book I mean) It's about 1.5 thick. A copy is available in the library. Maybe your tongue was in your cheek, I meant the online book. Chris, like

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Andrew Errington
On Wed, 26 May 2004 09:44, you wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004 09:16:03 +1200 Andrew Errington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:28, you wrote: How big is it Chris (the book I mean) It's about 1.5 thick. A copy is available in the library. Maybe your tongue was in your

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:28, Nick Rout wrote: How big is it Chris (the book I mean) [EMAIL PROTECTED] chris $ du /var/www/localhost/htdocs/rute/ -s --si 4.6M/var/www/localhost/htdocs/rute/ 630 Pages incl. index Word for word .pdf file available at:-

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 26 May 2004 09:44, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004 09:16:03 +1200 Andrew Errington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:28, you wrote: How big is it Chris (the book I mean) It's about 1.5 thick. A copy is available in the library. Maybe your tongue was in

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition? - Rute bk

2004-05-25 Thread InfoHelp
Rute Book html fileset available for download @: http://www.infohelp.co.nz/lnxspprt.html - *Manuals Drivers *column, 9th entry down Tar 1.35MB or *Zip* http://www.infohelp.co.nz/help/RuteZip.ZIP 1.61MB (funny, that.. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004 09:44, Nick Rout wrote: On

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Alasdair Tennant
On Tue, 25 May 2004 00:45:45 +1200 Sascha Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a decent book, go have a read of RUTE, which can be found freely online at http://rute.sf.net/ - I beleive from memory we had a large After over two years of being interested in Linux and googling around on the

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Chris Downie
Or if you prefer slivers of dead tree, $105 from Whitcoulls (via Aussie) or $25 from Amazon. A must for anyone on 'L' plates and much easier to read while sitting contemplating :) Chris Alasdair Tennant writes: After over two years of being interested in Linux and googling around on the

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Roger Searle
If I recall correctly, it was also on a PC World CD some time in the middle of last year - or was it just a reference to it? Anyway, that's how I heard about it. This newbie recommends it. Reminder to self: look at it more often. Roger Chris Downie wrote: Or if you prefer slivers of dead

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 26 May 2004 14:49:03 +1200 Chris Downie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or if you prefer slivers of dead tree, $105 from Whitcoulls (via Aussie) or $25 from Amazon. A must for anyone on 'L' plates and much easier to read while sitting contemplating :) I dunno - my wireless laptop

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-24 Thread Sascha Beaumont
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don Gould wrote: | bb. Books. | | I have read just about every book in the public library on Linux now. | | I have found most to be very shallow with 3 or less pages on any one | subject. Most are nothing more than a copy of the man pages rewritten |

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-24 Thread Juan Escanellas
On Mon, 24 May 2004 15:32:26 +1200 Jim Cheetham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This does not make the learning path easy, but unix is not easy. Making Maybe if unix would had be called UPE (Unix it's not an operating system, it's just a unix programming environment) that name would give a hint of

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-24 Thread Jim Cheetham
Juan Escanellas wrote: (Unix it's not an operating system, it's just a unix programming environment) So ... GNU's Not Unix ... UPE is-a Programming Environment ... Linus' UPE would have been LUPE ... and Tux would be a wolf, not a penguin? -jim

How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
The first patition on the disk is Fat32. How do I see (mount?) that within rh9? Cheers Don

RE: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=29285 Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 May 2004 10:23 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:How do I see

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
first make a place to mount it # mkdir /mnt/win then mount it #mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win it should pick up the filesystem type automatically, if not re run the command like: #mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win then you will be able to browse the file system under /mnt/win it will be mounted

RE: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 May 2004 10:34 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition? first make a place to mount it # mkdir /mnt/win then mount it #mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win it should pick up the filesystem type automatically, if not re run the command

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
That worked... There must be a basic concept idea that I'm missing here but why can't I just see the volume at /dev/hda1 ? Why do I have to mount it? Sorry if this is a dumb ass question. Cheers Don On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 10:33, Nick Rout wrote: first make a place to mount it # mkdir

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
/dev/hda1 is a device file. it is the kernel's abstraction of the physical collection of the disk blocks that make up a partition. raw tools like dd can overwrite those blocks. if you want to destroy /dev/hda1's data try dd'ing or cat'ing /dev/zero to it. however to read it in the normal way as

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:12:42 +1200, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There must be a basic concept idea that I'm missing here but why can't I just see the volume at /dev/hda1 ? The filename /dev/hda1 refers to a device driver that knows how to access your hardware. It doesn't know anything

RE: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
And I am sure that Don will not suggest that Windows is easier for this topic. Try reading your Linux partitions from Windows Don. LOL (Yes I know it can be done but not very easily me thinks.) Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 24 May 2004 11:12 am, Don Gould wrote: That worked... There must be a basic concept idea that I'm missing here but why can't I just see the volume at /dev/hda1 ? Because that is the raw device file. Why do I have to mount it? So that you can access your data via the file system

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Alasdair Tennant
On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:32:07 +1200 Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a dumb ass question. Yes, it is. Why don't you buy ( or download ) a book and have a read? Alternatively using the online Unix manual page would have told you the answer much faster than than

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:24:23 +1200 Alasdair Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:32:07 +1200 Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a dumb ass question. Yes, it is. Why don't you buy ( or download ) a book and have a read? Alternatively

Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Barry
Others have answered your specific question. For a lot of help/advice (for the experienced as well as beginners) I suggest you download the Rute manual. Google for it. Mine is in html and bookmarked in my favoutite browser. As you familiarise yourself with it your knowledge of linux will greatly

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Don Gould
Thanks to those who just gave me a straight answer. RANT - I feel better now... I wouldn't even bother reading the next 400 words :) Have a nice day - Cheers Don In response to the growing flame on the issue... aa. /dev/hda1 Man Mount Pages Concepts... Last week I spent many hours reading

Re: Dumb Ass Question - Was: Re: How do I see the Fat32 patition?

2004-05-23 Thread Jim Cheetham
Don Gould wrote: The keyword was 'concept'. I have reviewed the man file (as I write this email) and found there is a total of half a paragaph on the subject (less text that Jim has written in his response). Unix documentation in general is very terse. In the first paragraph of the mount(8)