RE: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-14 Thread Bryce Stenberg
> From: jim.cheet...@gmail.com [mailto:jim.cheet...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Sure, but effectively that's what a snapshot is; if a full cold backup > takes say 1 hour, with LVM snapshotting you can reduce that to a > couple of seconds. Surely that's worth investigating? If you can grab > a snapsho

Re: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-12 Thread Adrian Mageanu
Call it Disaster/Recovery and then the database or application backup will find its place in the bigger picture. When it comes to databases or applications, it is always a good idea to do a backup of the database or the application files using internal tools (e.g. dump command) before doing a back

Re: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 18:19 +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Steve Holdoway > wrote: > > I wouldn't do that with the backups personally. If you're after backing > > up important production databases, then I'd look at replicating them > > ( to another machine preferabl

Re: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-11 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Steve Holdoway wrote: > I wouldn't do that with the backups personally. If you're after backing > up important production databases, then I'd look at replicating them > ( to another machine preferably ) as a frist line of defence. Replication gives you defence fro

RE: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 13:25 +1300, Bryce Stenberg wrote: > > I'm using LVM's for there ability to take almost instant 'snapshots' of > volumes to then utilize in full backups of the system including live > databases (after appropriate freezing/blocking of database and flush of > buffers etc to di

RE: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-11 Thread Bryce Stenberg
> From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:st...@greengecko.co.nz] > Not done this on 9.10, but with all (older) debian'esque services I've > set up with LVM, you need to partition manually, and the options you > need can be hidden off the bottom of the screen, expecially if you're in > text mode. But you can

Re: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-11 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Steve Holdoway wrote: > > As Jim mentioned, there is loads of jargon with logical and physical > volumes and groups but it does make sense, sorta. It's all based on the > (old?) HP implementation, which is really handy if you used to > administer HP-UX servers (:

Re: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 11:41 +1300, Bryce Stenberg wrote: > Hi, > > I've already posed my problem on the UbuntuForums > (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426826 ) but thought I'd post > here also as responses are much quicker and I'd like to proceed with > this install before next week...

Re: UBUNTU 9.10 Server Install - LVM problem?

2010-03-11 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Bryce Stenberg wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a command I can run or file to edit that > can tell the installer to now put the root file system on /dev/sda5 (the > logical volume I just formatted) so as the installation can proceed? With LVM you don't put