Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-23 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 23 May 2002 01:42:22 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 09:54 pm, Net Llama! wrote: Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 09:30, Tim Wunder wrote: Been running it for a week ;-) AND ? He's still waiting for KMail to start up ;)

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-23 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 23 May 2002 14:34, Jim Conner wrote: To turn a tarball into a rpm, check out checkinstall on freshmeat. It had a problem with glibc(I think) on eD2.4 and wasn't reliable. It works fine with W3.x though. Jim I actually use checkinstall and have for a while but I am sure there

XP home edition behind firewall

2002-05-23 Thread Joel Hammer
I have an XP home edition on my home network behind my firewall. I know nothing about XP. This morning at localtime 5:45 am I noticed a connection with a lot of data being send to this address from my XP machine: 217.84.15.157.1214 192.168.1.9.1632 The XP machine of course is the 192 address.

Re: XP home edition behind firewall

2002-05-23 Thread David A. Bandel
On Thu, 23 May 2002 06:10:28 -0400 begin Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: I have an XP home edition on my home network behind my firewall. I know nothing about XP. This morning at localtime 5:45 am I noticed a connection with a lot of data being send to this address from my XP

Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-23 Thread Collins
On Wed, 22 May 2002 22:50:36 -0700 (PDT) stayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2002 17:56:54 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! wrote: Does it still suck? ;) I'm sure it still does. Users fall into two camps - the full desktop users (the environment does everything including slice bread) and

Directory write permissions -- fail

2002-05-23 Thread bof
I've been trying to understand permissions on directories, but am having trouble with the write permission. As I understand it, read permission (r--r--r--) on a directory allows the contents to be listed, write (-w--w--w-) allows files to be added/deleted, and execute (--x--x--x) allows

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Skippy (Keith Antoine) observed: Its latest stunt: I installed XCDRoast alpha 10 and the necessary updated libs. When I later installed a different app, YAST decided it did not like the updated XCDRoast and its libs and reinstalled the old versions. Thats not the only thing it does,

Re: Question

2002-05-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Thanks. You learn something new every day! On Wed, 22 May 2002 17:52:53 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Port 115. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and

KDE 3 Question

2002-05-23 Thread Brian Witowski
What happened to the admin tools that were included with KDE2? I don't recall the exact names of the tools but I recall there were applets for determining modules loaded at boot time, daemons, etc. Were these specific to COL? As I recall they were under Preferences|System. Thanks, Brian

Re: Directory write permissions -- fail

2002-05-23 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on May 23, bof managed to emit: [...] But when I changed the directory permissions to -w--w--w-, I could not add a new file or delete any of the existing files, getting a permission denied message. This is not as I understand it: I should be able to do this.

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
i386 doesn't NECESSARILY mean anything, but it is supposed to mean that the code was compiled specially for the i686 architecture. As for SuSE RPMS, there is a very slim chance that SuSE RPMs will work on Caldera. SuSE sticks nearly ALL their stuff in different places as opposed to the

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
On Wed, 22 May 2002 16:37:21 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My one beef (other than the price!) right now is the inability to install the yahoo messenger rpm; dependency problems. I went with gaim instead. works well. I still don't understand this one. I suppose I did a --nodeps

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
On Wed, 22 May 2002 18:31:42 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Skippy is just trying to tell me what we all learned along the way. Caldera was never especially good at providing updates (except for security), and the Caldera file setup was sufficiently different, that most RPMS

Updated Step

2002-05-23 Thread Nobody
Aaron Grewell has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/sendm2.html to incorporate the following: Updated to include Sendmail on RH-7.3 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info,

Re: backing up a laptop

2002-05-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I could be wrong about the exact syntax, since I haven't done it in a while... I believe something along the lines of: tar zxf - / |ssh backuphostname cat backup.laptop.tgz Or something to that extent. It's been a while and I never really used it much. It should feed the contents of the

Updated Step

2002-05-23 Thread Nobody
Net Llama! has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/pctel.html to incorporate the following: Updated for newest driver, and winmodem database website ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 07:34 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 11:47, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Tony Alfrey wrote: H. Are you on the SuSE list? I follow it and there seems to be a moderate amount of angst with various things about 8.0. So I've been reluctant to

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 05:31 pm,Collins wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:50:14 -0700 Tony Alfrey snip Geeze Looeeze Skipmeister, whadda ya tryin' t do t me?? Everybody's got me enthused about 3.1.1 and now you tell me it is bad news??? What do you mean that it won't update?? Inquiring

Re: Directory write permissions -- fail

2002-05-23 Thread David A. Bandel
On Thu, 23 May 2002 06:32:47 -0600 begin bof [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: I've been trying to understand permissions on directories, but am having trouble with the write permission. As I understand it, read permission (r--r--r--) on a directory allows the contents to be listed,

sherwin-williams drops sco for turbolinux

2002-05-23 Thread dep
http://computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,71411,00.html?nlid=AM -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere. ___ Linux-users mailing list -

Re: Directory write permissions -- fail

2002-05-23 Thread bof
Thanx. Your explanation makes sense. So the execute permission must be used with the read or write permission when dealing with a directory if the user plans on allowing read or write access to it. But no book that I have read, and for that matter, the man/info page explains permissions like

Re:Linux StepByStep distributed teams!

2002-05-23 Thread Andrew Mathews
Doug Hunley wrote: I've had a couple of requests from people, so today I went and created Linux StepByStep teams for various distributed-processing projects. Anyone can join these teams, we're not making restrictions. The following projects all have official Linux StepByStep teams: United

OT free mags

2002-05-23 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
I guess most of us know how to read and dont mind freebies. So. http://ideacafe.tradepub.com/cat/Comp.cat.html Note: Most mags are for US Canada distribution, only a few are international. Enjoy! -- Ronnie Gauthier == Each days terror almost a form of boredom

Re: Some browser observations (2)

2002-05-23 Thread Aaron Grewell
One nice new option in Moz is to set the cookies to expire after the current session. Cookies are cheerfully accepted by the browser, but once you close it they go away. That might not be very helpful with nytimes though. You would be forever logging in. Personally, I don't go to sites that

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Collins
On Thu, 23 May 2002 10:17:15 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2002 18:31:42 -0600 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Skippy is just trying to tell me what we all learned along the way. Caldera was never especially good at providing updates (except

Re: sherwin-williams drops sco for turbolinux

2002-05-23 Thread Jerry McBride
On Thu, 23 May 2002 15:22:44 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on May 23, dep managed to emit: http://computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,71411,00.html?nlid=AM Bummer. 2,500 seats is a lot of lost revenue... I wonder if this is a start

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-23 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 23 May 2002 19:39, dep wrote: begin Keith Antoine's quote: | One point and I have seen chatter about it before BUT: What | difference would an i386.rpm have to an i686 and would it be best | to do them as i386? Suse rpms will install with Caldera, won't they | ? i686 stuff is

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Keith Antoine
On Friday 24 May 2002 02:02, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 07:34 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 11:47, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Tony Alfrey wrote: H. Are you on the SuSE list? I follow it and there seems to be a moderate amount of angst with

Re: sherwin-williams drops sco for turbolinux

2002-05-23 Thread dep
begin Kurt Wall's quote: | Scribbling feverishly on May 23, dep managed to emit: | http://computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,71 | 411,00.html?nlid=AM | | Bummer. 2,500 seats is a lot of lost revenue... try 9,700 seats:

Re: Linux StepByStep distributed teams!

2002-05-23 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on May 23, Andrew Mathews managed to emit: [...] SETI@Home, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu Team Name: Linux StepByStep [...] Just curious, did anybody ever participate in any of these? Seems seti@home is just two of us. Now three of us. ;-) Maybe I was having a

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
begin Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thu, 23 May 2002 15:33:18 -0600) snip While I support the concept of developing your own distro (it's good clean fun and educational and who could resist a Skippy distro grin), I question the long term viability. Either you choose an RPM binary distro, in

Re:Linux StepByStep distributed teams!

2002-05-23 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Mathews spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Just curious, did anybody ever participate in any of these? Seems seti@home is just two of us. there's only two of us on the UD team too... it'll happen - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at

Re: Linux StepByStep distributed teams!

2002-05-23 Thread Andrew Mathews
Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on May 23, Andrew Mathews managed to emit: [...] SETI@Home, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu Team Name: Linux StepByStep [...] Just curious, did anybody ever participate in any of these? Seems seti@home is just two of us. Now three of us. ;-) Maybe

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 23 May 2002 04:17 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: snip Feed back please. I think we're looking forward to what you cook up. From my view, I'm almost more interested in the process than in the end result.. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing

kernel install-checksig errors

2002-05-23 Thread Harry G
Using Suse 7.3 current kernel 2.4.10 Downloaded 2.4.16 from Suse site. Ran rpm -v --checksig (as user) and got the following: harrycg@linux:~/dloads/kernel rpm -v --checksig kernel-source-2.4.16.SuSE-24.i386.rpm kernel-source-2.4.16.SuSE-24.i386.rpm: MD5 sum OK:

Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-23 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
That's what's so frustrating about KDE and why I'm abandoing it. Kmail is an excellent mail program - handles mail lists well, handles multiple accounts, good filtering - something others don't do. Knode is a decent newsreader. However, KDE is an oinking pig. It's a Window enviroment with

Re: kernel install-checksig errors

2002-05-23 Thread Net Llama!
Harry G wrote: Using Suse 7.3 current kernel 2.4.10 Downloaded 2.4.16 from Suse site. Ran rpm -v --checksig (as user) and got the following: harrycg@linux:~/dloads/kernel rpm -v --checksig kernel-source-2.4.16.SuSE-24.i386.rpm kernel-source-2.4.16.SuSE-24.i386.rpm: MD5 sum OK:

Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 23 May 2002 22:13:35 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be checking out xfce and Gnome. xfce is very fast, lightweight, and configurable, and will read your kde and gnome menus in to it's desktop user menu, accessible by mouse right click on the desktop. Has some

Re: kernel install-checksig errors

2002-05-23 Thread Harry G
Then again, you could avoid all of this headache by simply building 2.4.18 from source. Boy, you must really want me to fry my brain! Actually, though, is it tough? I have heard that Suse patches the crap out of the kernel. Harry G ___

Re: kernel install-checksig errors

2002-05-23 Thread Net Llama!
Harry G wrote: Then again, you could avoid all of this headache by simply building 2.4.18 from source. Boy, you must really want me to fry my brain! Actually, though, is it tough? I have heard that Suse patches the crap out of the kernel. Its not that hard. But it is one of the best

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-23 Thread Keith Antoine
On Friday 24 May 2002 11:13, Matthew Carpenter wrote: wwwWRROOOuuuwuwSCREECHhhh Sorry. You asked for feedback Sounds like a great idea. BTW- Your nickname is skippy, so where does Gandalf come into this sig? Remember I used to use Merlin and my

Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-23 Thread Keith Antoine
On Friday 24 May 2002 13:13, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: That's what's so frustrating about KDE and why I'm abandoing it. Kmail is an excellent mail program - handles mail lists well, handles multiple accounts, good filtering - something others don't do. Knode is a decent newsreader. However,