On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:52:32 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoth Michael Hipp:
Bill Campbell wrote:
In addition to job security these
MCSEs are afraid they might have to learn something more than the
3 Rs of Microsoft, Reboot, Reboot, Reinstall.
Hehe. Actually, those of
Collins
I can do better than that. In class yesterday, I asked the prof what program
would you use if you do not have winders. Her answer was, your out of luck,
there is no other os than winders. 98% of the world uses it and it is the os of
choice. It is hat the bussiness world uses. I asked
Rick Sivernell wrote:
Collins
I can do better than that. In class yesterday, I asked the prof what program
would you use if you do not have winders. Her answer was, your out of luck,
there is no other os than winders. 98% of the world uses it and it is the os of
choice. It is hat the
On Friday 27 June 2003 08:16 am, Rick Sivernell wrote:
Collins
I can do better than that. In class yesterday, I asked the prof what
program would you use if you do not have winders. Her answer was, your out
of luck, there is no other os than winders. 98% of the world uses it and it
is the
Any chance you could invite her over to see what you do with Linux? A
constructive / helpful demo might help presuade her. Even loaning her a
pre-loaded and well-configured box might be worthwhile given that she is
probably an opinion-leader in her circle.
Just some thoughts ...
Michael
Rick
Shawn L Johnston wrote:
Rick Sivernell wrote:
I can do better than that. In class yesterday, I asked the prof
what program would you use if you do not have winders. Her answer
was, your out of luck, there is no other os than winders. 98% of
the world uses it and it is the os of choice. It
Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
I beg to differ. The latest issue of AIArchitect (American Institute of
Architects magazine) has recommended that anyone performing extensive
calculations (read: CAD-CAM software - what architects use computers for)
switch to Linux. Businesses are learning!
Because
Michael Hipp wrote:
Any chance you could invite her over to see what you do with Linux?
Take knoppix 3.2 in and load it up. It does no harm, and is quite
impressive for a 1 cd distro.
--
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On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 08:36:59AM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
...
I beg to differ. The latest issue of AIArchitect (American Institute of
Architects magazine) has recommended that anyone performing extensive
calculations (read: CAD-CAM software - what architects use computers for)
switch
I'll believe it when I see AutoCAD for Linux.
On Friday 27 June 2003 10:43 am, Bill Campbell wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 08:36:59AM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote:
...
I beg to differ. The latest issue of AIArchitect (American Institute of
Architects magazine) has recommended that
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:30:58 -0500
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any chance you could invite her over to see what you do with Linux? A
constructive / helpful demo might help presuade her. Even loaning her a
pre-loaded and well-configured box might be worthwhile given that she is
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:13:38 -0700
Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Hipp wrote:
Any chance you could invite her over to see what you do with Linux?
Take knoppix 3.2 in and load it up. It does no harm, and is quite
impressive for a 1 cd distro.
--
Ken
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:16, Rick Sivernell wrote:
Collins
I can do better than that. In class yesterday, I asked the prof what program
would you use if you do not have winders. Her answer was, your out of luck,
there is no other os than winders.\
Reminds me of an on-line course I did
your_details.zip
Does anyone know what this email attachment is? This is a zip file which
contains a pif file. It seems to be a windows targeted nasty.
Joel
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Quoth Joel Hammer:
your_details.zip
Does anyone know what this email attachment is? This is a zip file which
contains a pif file. It seems to be a windows targeted nasty.
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kurt
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quoth Joel Hammer:
| your_details.zip
|
| Does anyone know what this email attachment is? This is a zip file
| which contains a pif file. It seems to be a windows targeted nasty.
a standard outlook rip. whole new batch of 'em the last few days. i'm
fast reaching the point that i would take
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:45:10 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quoth Joel Hammer:
| your_details.zip
|
| Does anyone know what this email attachment is? This is a zip file
| which contains a pif file. It seems to be a windows targeted nasty.
a standard outlook rip. whole new batch of 'em
spam?
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Joel Hammer wrote:
your_details.zip
Does anyone know what this email attachment is? This is a zip file which
contains a pif file. It seems to be a windows targeted nasty.
Joel
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Quoth David A. Bandel:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:45:10 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quoth Joel Hammer:
| your_details.zip
|
| Does anyone know what this email attachment is? This is a zip file
| which contains a pif file. It seems to be a windows targeted nasty.
a standard
Same here. But I have found myself wondering, recently, what this
particular virus does. Kind of like survivor guilt. Strange huh ?
Regards,
pascal chong
Kurt Wall wrote:
Nope. Nothing here at KurtWerks seems to mind. :-)
KUrt
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quoth Kurt Wall:
| Quoth David A. Bandel:
|
| Sorry you folks have to deal with or even worry about it. They
| don't seem to affect any of my systems. ;-)
|
| Nope. Nothing here at KurtWerks seems to mind. :-)
it's simply the fact that these bozos are making the *attempt.* which
so far as i'm
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:31:57AM -0400, dep wrote:
quoth Kurt Wall:
| Quoth David A. Bandel:
|
| Sorry you folks have to deal with or even worry about it. They
| don't seem to affect any of my systems. ;-)
|
| Nope. Nothing here at KurtWerks seems to mind. :-)
it's simply the fact that these
quoth Bill Campbell:
| Aren't you targeting the wrong folks? Shouldn't you be heading
| for my neighbor in Redmond?
well, they bear some responsibility, sure, but leaving locks off the
doors only makes the burglar's job easier -- it doesn't excuse the
burglar.
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dep
Quoth Chong Yu Meng:
Same here. But I have found myself wondering, recently, what this
particular virus does. Kind of like survivor guilt. Strange huh ?
Strange, yes. In this particular case, though, I haven't felt a
twinge of survivor guilt. More like gratitude it's someone else.
;-)
Kurt
Not here. Still, the expression on some people's face when I mention that
there are no Windows machines on my network... it's priceless.
I just had a supervisor from a large firm ask me what kind of freeware existed
for flowcharting. Apparently he deems me some sort of expert on Freeware. I
Actually, it probably just distributes itself to a bunch of other
people. And it presumably installs a limited backdoor on the system that
someone can use for DDoS or untraceable hacking. Seems like most of the
nasty things viruses do to infected machines these days are either because
they
quoth Joel Hammer:
| your_details.zip
|
| Does anyone know what this email attachment is? This is a zip file
| which contains a pif file. It seems to be a windows targeted nasty.
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/virus/story/0,10801,82512,00.html?nas=AM-82512
The worm affects
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:05:57PM -0400, dep wrote:
quoth Bill Campbell:
| Aren't you targeting the wrong folks? Shouldn't you be heading
| for my neighbor in Redmond?
well, they bear some responsibility, sure, but leaving locks off the
doors only makes the burglar's job easier -- it doesn't
quoth Bill Campbell:
| I've always that the directors and officers of any public company
| are guilty of malfeasance if they entrust sensitive data to
| Windows. What would happen if bankers left the vault and doors
| unlocked?
they would be held accountable, or should be -- but that should in
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:24:52PM -0400, dep wrote:
quoth Bill Campbell:
| I've always that the directors and officers of any public company
| are guilty of malfeasance if they entrust sensitive data to
| Windows. What would happen if bankers left the vault and doors
| unlocked?
they would be
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Bill Campbell wrote:
Hackers aren't the only thing that cause serious economic loss. The lost
productivity waiting for Windows systems to reboot, even if there's no data
loss, I did some rough calculations after reading an article that said
United Parcel Service had
quoth Bill Campbell:
| Hackers aren't the only thing that cause serious economic loss.
| The lost productivity waiting for Windows systems to reboot, even
| if there's no data loss, I did some rough calculations after
| reading an article that said United Parcel Service had about
| 160,000
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:52:55PM -0400, dep wrote:
quoth Bill Campbell:
| Hackers aren't the only thing that cause serious economic loss.
| The lost productivity waiting for Windows systems to reboot, even
| if there's no data loss, I did some rough calculations after
| reading an article
Bill Campbell wrote:
In addition to job security these
MCSEs are afraid they might have to learn something more than the 3 Rs
of Microsoft, Reboot, Reboot, Reinstall.
Hehe. Actually, those of us that have been around a while know it to be
the 4 Rs:
Reboot, Reboot, Reinstall, Replace ... with a
Michael Hipp wrote:
Bill Campbell wrote:
In addition to job security these
MCSEs are afraid they might have to learn something more than the
3 Rs of Microsoft, Reboot, Reboot, Reinstall.
Hehe. Actually, those of us that have been around a while know it to
be the 4 Rs:
Reboot,
5, five rules to the Spanish Inqu... uh, Microshaft.
Reboot, Reboot, Reinstall, Replace (hardware), Repurchase (upgrade
software)
Exactly I work at a riotinto company and we just got w2k installed and
then they move to XP... net result no improvement in functionality... but
it made the
Quoth Michael Hipp:
Bill Campbell wrote:
In addition to job security these
MCSEs are afraid they might have to learn something more than the 3 Rs
of Microsoft, Reboot, Reboot, Reinstall.
Hehe. Actually, those of us that have been around a while know it to be
the 4 Rs:
Reboot, Reboot,
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