Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-21 Thread ronnie gauthier
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:23:44 -0800 - Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: RE: Oz cops it again, fire! Actually, there is strong evidence that if we didn't have global warming we'd be in an ice age right now. [Do a search for Maunder Minimum on the web for a lot more

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-21 Thread Ted Ozolins
Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Net Llama! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] typed thusly on Monday, January 20, 2003 9:18 AM: Nature manages itself just fine. All of the screwed up weather is occuring because of the greenhouse effect, which didn't get started by a few bears pooping in the woods.

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-20 Thread m.w.chang
may be bombing (real explosives) is a faster solution. :) An American crew of a giant water bombing copter is on record as saying , they had never seen worse conditions and a bigger firestorm. The forcast for tonight and tomorrow is worse than it was on Saturday, we are all fingers crossed.

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-20 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, m.w.chang wrote: they might have beeen too fast, but ran in the wrong direction. even trained professionals might make a bad decions when trapped in the center of a hill/bush fire. remenmber the movie Blackhawk Down? wonder whether they can use helicopters to plot ground

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-20 Thread stayler
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:49:07 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: Greenies are being blamed for stopping of fire hazzard reduction and clearing of trees. Mind you people love to build houses nowadays in rural tree filled area The same things are being said in thge US. I tend to agree, the Greenies are

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-20 Thread Tom Condon
Skippie, Well we have 33% of the national capital burnt out and 400 homes gone, 200 serious burn victims. The hospital system in Canberra is overwhelmed, as is the emergency services. Similar situation has ocurred in the Snowy Mountains area of NSW threatening villages and hamlets, vast

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-20 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, stayler wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:49:07 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: Greenies are being blamed for stopping of fire hazzard reduction and clearing of trees. Mind you people love to build houses nowadays in rural tree

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-20 Thread m.w.chang
same thing could happen to those fire fighters when the arial command center crashed... :) Renmber the movie Blackhawk Down? wonder whether they can use helicopters to plot ground troops' retreat given all the heat, wind and smoke... Yea, that's the movie where 2 copters crashed, and many

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread Collins
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:41:01 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we have 33% of the national capital burnt out and 400 homes gone, 200 serious burn victims. The hospital system in Canberra is overwhelmed ... Snowy Mountains area of NSW ... Melbourne ... big fires burning ...

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread Rick Sivernell
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:41:01 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we have 33% of the national capital burnt out and 400 homes gone, 200 serious burn victims. The hospital system in Canberra is overwhelmed, as is the emergency services. Similar situation has ocurred in the Snowy

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread stayler
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:41:01 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: The devastation we are seeing is the worst in living memory. I must admit that I am very gald to be in Queensland, but with the way the drought has provided fuel for fires we are not are not immune as 75% of the state is tinder dry. Keep

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread m.w.chang
I guess it's time to mobilize those C130 for fire-fighting. The devastation we are seeing is the worst in living memory. I must admit that I am very gald to be in Queensland, but with the way the drought has provided fuel for fires we are not are not immune as 75% of the state is tinder dry.

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread m.w.chang
and on the bright side, there will less fire for the next few years. :) are the 200 victims all fire fighters? Well we have 33% of the national capital burnt out and 400 homes gone, 200 serious burn victims. The hospital system in Canberra is overwhelmed, as is the emergency services. Similar

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread Keith Antoine
At 09:51 AM 20/01/2003 +0800, you wrote: and on the bright side, there will less fire for the next few years. :) are the 200 victims all fire fighters? Well we have 33% of the national capital burnt out and 400 homes gone, 200 serious burn victims. The hospital system in Canberra is

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread m.w.chang
they might have beeen too fast, but ran in the wrong direction. even trained professionals might make a bad decions when trapped in the center of a hill/bush fire. remenmber the movie Blackhawk Down? wonder whether they can use helicopters to plot ground troops' retreat given all the heat, wind

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread Keith Antoine
At 09:49 AM 20/01/2003 +0800, you wrote: I guess it's time to mobilize those C130 for fire-fighting. The devastation we are seeing is the worst in living memory. I must admit that I am very gald to be in Queensland, but with the way the drought has provided fuel for fires we are not are not