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Re: Segmentation Fault Problems
Sohel Shaheen Mallik wrote: Hi there, i am facing a strange problem , i have a remote server where i ssh and store files as backup. But recently when i try to create a directory by issuing a mkdir command it returns back with segmentation fault message. But amazingly when i ncftp to that same server with the same user privileges and try to create a directory at that same location in the directory structure , the directory is created well and good. I am totally confused what the problem really is .. any suggestions !! Thanks , Sohel Have you installed any new software lately? Has someone hacked the box and installed a root kit? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Upgrading gcc and glibc (agian)
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 15:52:58 -0700, Net Llama! wrote: snip I assume that you're referring to the two entries that i wrote. Yes, those are the ones. Thanks for writing them and for responding so promptly to my post. As far as gcc is concerned, yes its that easy. Its damn hard to wreck your box by not building gcc right. I can see that the build itself should be straighforward. I had, in fact, successfully compiled gcc 3.x previously, but did not install it becauseof the concerns I mentioned. In particular I have read that gcc 2.x and 3.x are C++ binary incompatible. I may be wrong (which is why I am asking questions), but I understand this to mean that I may, for example, have C++ lib.foo on my system compiled under 2.x, together with applications compiled and dynamically linked against it. Now I install gcc 3.x and try to compile some new application. It won't compile (or maybe run?) against lib.foo because of the incompatibility, so I recompile lib.foo with 3.x. Now my existing applications won't link dynamically to lib.foo, so I have to recompile them. In itself this is not a very big deal - but I can imagine having an entertaining time tracking down problems in cases where there may be multiple dependencies. I believe that there are relatively sophisticated ways around these problems - by maintaining different library versions and changing makefiles accordingly, but (keen as I am), that really is beyond me - and in any case I have a living to earn - much of it from my linux box. As for glibc, its relatively safe, but there's always a possibility of disaster. Ironically, just today, i completely wrecked a box that was running Redhat-6.2, where i tried to upgrade straight to glibc-2.2.5 (it was runnning 2.1.2). But, most of that problem was just the enormity of the upgrade, as nothing else had been upgraded yet. I've successfully upgraded several other boxes' glibc without a hitch. While there are always going to be some exceptions, most things will _not_ need to be recompiled after upgrading glibc. Of course it also heavily depends on what version of glibc you have, and which you're upgrading to. rpm will have to be recompiled, as it depends heavily on glibc's locale libraries. zlib (and anything that depends on it) might also have to be recompiled. But none of that is a showstopper, and won't incapacitate your box if you can't get to it right away. Well, as said, I am going from glibc 2.2.5 to (I suppose), 2.3.2. It may be an advantage that I run LFS, so 95% of everthing on my system was compiled locally and I have a pretty good understanding of the geography of what I have. I don't even have rpm on the box. I suppose, however, that I hanker after some kind of certainty - a set of instructions telling me precisely what will have to be recompiled so that I can get on and do it rather than wait and see what does or does not break. I my system well backed up - so I am not worried about losing it - but I don't want to get started only to screw up because the sxs guidance is assuming something(s) I don't know. Well, i don't know what you don't know :) It would fill encyclopaedias. If you've got questions, or special circumstances, please ask. We're all hear to help. Thanks again. Geoff ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Upgrading gcc and glibc (agian)
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 20:34:02 -0400, Kurt Wall wrote: snip Thanks for responding Kurt. As the Llama wrote, you'd be hard-pressed to toast a running system just by upgrading GCC - the default installation procedure installs the new one into /usr/local, which keeps it from becoming the system compiler and keeps the potential for self-inflicted damages to a minimum. So, yes, installing GCC really is that easy; no, you won't have to recompile your libraries or applications. This is one area in which the received or conventional wisdom is incorrect. However, it wasn't always that way, and it is the memories of The Way It Used To Be (tm) that formed conventional wisdom. You will see that I have responded to the Llama on most of this. If you have any comments on what I wrote there, I will be glad to see them. snip Unless you need something in the newer library that can't be shoehorned into the system without upgrading the entire library, I don't recommend doing so. An upgrade of this sort is not for the faint of heart. I am not at all sure that I (yet) need anything in the current glibc. I have read the changelog and did not see anything I needed, but the writers of changelogs are usually masters of understatement and I could very easily miss something. I have limited opportunities (during holidays), to spend the time making major changes to a system that I use in my work on a daily basis. Several of the applications I run have recently begun to require gcc 3.x and I thought that, whilst I was installing that, I might as well go the whole hog and give myself a little future-proofing against the same thing happening with glibc. I have my system well backed up - so I am not worried about losing it - but I don't want to get started only to screw up because the sxs guidance is assuming something(s) I don't know. I might be overly cautious - I've broken systems many times upgrading the C library - but I would test the upgrade procedure you intend to use on a system you don't mind rebuilding if it goes badly before risking a more important box. Famous last words, but I am pretty confident about my backup and rescue procedures, which I test regularly. As it happens another hdd has just been released from an obsolete box I have, and I will replicate my system to that and use it for any experiments. Thanks again, Geoff ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:51:05 -0700 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: snippage Speaking of roasts, how 'bout the ``I can eat hotter food than you'' contest between Evan, Calamity, et al. == hehehe I joined the list just about that time and I remember being confused thinking I had joined the wrong list. Was fun though!! Mike -- The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life --Muhammad Ali ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On 08/02/03 06:20, Michael Hipp wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:50am up 18 days, 9:32, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Segmentation Fault Problems
On 08/01/03 22:39, Sohel Shaheen Mallik wrote: Hi there, i am facing a strange problem , i have a remote server where i ssh and store files as backup. But recently when i try to create a directory by issuing a mkdir command it returns back with segmentation fault message. But amazingly when i ncftp to that same server with the same user privileges and try to create a directory at that same location in the directory structure , the directory is created well and good. I am totally confused what the problem really is .. As someone else mentioned, what have you changed on the box lately? This could also be a symptom of bad RAM. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:55am up 18 days, 9:37, 1 user, load average: 0.36, 0.16, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Upgrading gcc and glibc (agian)
On 08/02/03 01:25, Geoff wrote: On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 15:52:58 -0700, Net Llama! wrote: As far as gcc is concerned, yes its that easy. Its damn hard to wreck your box by not building gcc right. I can see that the build itself should be straighforward. I had, in fact, successfully compiled gcc 3.x previously, but did not install it becauseof the concerns I mentioned. In particular I have read that gcc 2.x and 3.x are C++ binary incompatible. I may be wrong (which is why I am asking questions), but I understand this to mean that I may, for example, have C++ lib.foo on my system compiled under 2.x, together with applications compiled and dynamically linked against it. Now I install gcc 3.x and try to compile some new application. It won't compile (or maybe run?) against lib.foo because of the incompatibility, so I recompile lib.foo with 3.x. Now my existing applications won't link dynamically to lib.foo, so I have to recompile them. In itself this is not a very big deal - but I can imagine having an entertaining time tracking down problems in cases where there may be multiple dependencies. I believe that there are relatively sophisticated ways around these problems - by maintaining different library versions and changing makefiles accordingly, but (keen as I am), that really is beyond me - and in any case I have a living to earn - much of it from my linux box. Kurt is definitely much more of an expert on this than I. I also remember reading about this, but haven't yet run into it. This is just one of those forward looking issues that i've yet to experience. There are no backward looking issues though. As for glibc, its relatively safe, but there's always a possibility of disaster. Ironically, just today, i completely wrecked a box that was running Redhat-6.2, where i tried to upgrade straight to glibc-2.2.5 (it was runnning 2.1.2). But, most of that problem was just the enormity of the upgrade, as nothing else had been upgraded yet. I've successfully upgraded several other boxes' glibc without a hitch. While there are always going to be some exceptions, most things will _not_ need to be recompiled after upgrading glibc. Of course it also heavily depends on what version of glibc you have, and which you're upgrading to. rpm will have to be recompiled, as it depends heavily on glibc's locale libraries. zlib (and anything that depends on it) might also have to be recompiled. But none of that is a showstopper, and won't incapacitate your box if you can't get to it right away. Well, as said, I am going from glibc 2.2.5 to (I suppose), 2.3.2. It may be an advantage that I run LFS, so 95% of everthing on my system was compiled locally and I have a pretty good understanding of the geography of what I have. I don't even have rpm on the box. I suppose, however, that I hanker after some kind of certainty - a set of instructions telling me precisely what will have to be recompiled so that I can get on and do it rather than wait and see what does or does not break. Its impossible to tell you everything that needs to be recompiled, since there are essentially an infinite number of possibilities. All i can mention are the things i've run into, which are rpm, zlib, bzip2 binutils. Thus far, everything else has worked. If you can get gcc glibc upgraded and still be able to go about your day to day activities, then you should be out of the woods. As Kurt mentioned, at this time there aren't really many advantages to having the latest greatest, other than having the latest greatest. So if you aren't comfortable, then don't do it. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 7:00am up 18 days, 9:42, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.19, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Upgrading gcc and glibc (agian) OT
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 09:25:43 +0100 Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ most of discussion snipped ] ... In particular I have read that gcc 2.x and 3.x are C++ binary incompatible. I may be wrong (which is why I am asking questions), but I understand this to mean that I may, for example, have C++ lib.foo on my system compiled under 2.x, together with applications compiled and dynamically linked against it. Now I install gcc 3.x and try to compile some new application. It won't compile (or maybe run?) against lib.foo because of the incompatibility, so I recompile lib.foo with 3.x. Now my existing applications won't link dynamically to lib.foo, so I have to recompile them. In itself this is not a very big deal - but I can imagine having an entertaining time tracking down problems in cases where there may be multiple dependencies. Yes, you are likely to encounter all of the above, and no, there is no quick fix. I do have a permanent solution to offer: install gentoo. I have nothing against LFS - a perfectly fine distro, and a good learning experience, but using LFS means that you must become your own dependancy wizard (time and again). I'm basically lazy. Although it is a matter of reading interest to know that package A depends upon B that depends upon libs D E F which may in turn break package G etc., I don't want to deal with that myself. For that work, I've hired a world wide team of subject matter experts at a very reasonable price (namely zippo): the gentoo development team. My last install (probably ever, except for experimentation) was about 2 1/2 years ago. Now my gentoo stable system is up to GCC 3.2.3 and glibc 2.3.2-r1 which is leading but not bleeding edge. During that time I've seen at least four new releases of RH, Mandrake, SuSE, etc. to cope with new functionality, and I'm sure LHS has had at least one release. Meanwhile, my system has been reliably and incrementally upgraded as new functionality is tested and offered by gentoo. Gentoo offers new releases, too, but these are only needed for new installs. Existing users get the new functionality gradually. It will take you about a week to put up a complete system and a little longer to get used to the unique things in gentoo, but you'll never need to wipe clean and uprade your system again, nor will you need to worry much about dependancies. At least 90% of the packages you may be interested in have a gentoo ebuild available. Any others you can install manually in /usr/local or /opt and worry about the dependancies yourself. Good luck. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 08:20:35 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Amen, brother. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tunneled file sharing server - server
On Friday 01 August 2003 11:09 pm, someone claiming to be Gary Wilson wrote: --- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would NFS be a good way to make the shared folder available to ServerA and then share it with Samba? Can NFS and Samba work with the same directory and not collide? NFS works just fine with Samba. You can use an NFS mount and make it a Samba share. Which is different from sharing the same directory via NFS and SMB at the same time. That, as I understand it, can be a problem. So as long as the NFS mount isn't used as an NFS mount by other *n*x users, sharing an NFS mount via Samba should work fine. HTH, Tim -- RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-18.8, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 10:15am up 40 days, 11:08, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Tunneled file sharing server - server
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 01 August 2003 11:09 pm, someone claiming to be Gary Wilson wrote: --- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would NFS be a good way to make the shared folder available to ServerA and then share it with Samba? Can NFS and Samba work with the same directory and not collide? NFS works just fine with Samba. You can use an NFS mount and make it a Samba share. Which is different from sharing the same directory via NFS and SMB at the same time. That, as I understand it, can be a problem. So as long as the NFS mount isn't used as an NFS mount by other *n*x users, sharing an NFS mount via Samba should work fine. True. Very true. And I should have also added that it is not secure over the Internet. You still need to tunnel it. As someone else has already mentioned, stunnel (see http://www.stunnel.org/examples/) is being used successfully for secure samba connections over the Internet. Don't know about FreeSWAN, never used it with Samba. Gary __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
Net Llama! wrote: Mike Andrew Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. Maybe we should organize a Skippy-esque manhunt. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Upgrading gcc and glibc (agian) OT
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 08:23:43 -0600, Collins Richey wrote: Yes, you are likely to encounter all of the above, and no, there is no quick fix. I do have a permanent solution to offer: install gentoo. I have nothing against LFS - a perfectly fine distro, and a good learning experience, but using LFS means that you must become your own dependancy wizard (time and again). I'm basically lazy. Although it is a matter of reading interest to know that package A depends upon B that depends upon libs D E F which may in turn break package G etc., I don't want to deal with that myself. For that work, I've hired a world wide team of subject matter experts at a very reasonable price (namely zippo): the gentoo development team. Thanks Collins. Until a year ago the only distro I had run in earnest was SuSE - having used most of v.6 and v.7. I had reached the point where I was running vanilla kernels and almost all my applications were self-compiled - so the rpm stuff was mostly just getting in the way, and the complexity of the distro (lots of indirection), was a bar to me learning more. I decided it was Gentoo or LFS and I actually installed Gentoo first. I could see all the advantages, yet the very convenience of e-builds again left me feeling that I was not fully in control and would not learn as much as I wanted. Also, at that time, there seemed to a couple of issues with Gentoo - the one that springs to mind was CUPS, which I could not get going and one of the CUPS gurus was saying loud and long that the e-build was defective. I therefore took myself off to LSF and I have *really* enjoyed it - but I admit that it now leaves me with this big problem of updating the gcc / glibc core. It is not that I mind rebuilding LFS / BLFS itself, but the hours of post-installation fine-tuning will be a pain - I should have kept better notes as I went along. I have been toying with the idea of Gentoo again recently and I will certainly consider is seriously before I do a fresh LFS installation. Regards, Geoff ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Upgrading gcc and glibc (agian)
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 07:07:01 -0700, Net Llama! wrote: snip Kurt is definitely much more of an expert on this than I. I also remember reading about this, but haven't yet run into it. This is just one of those forward looking issues that i've yet to experience. There are no backward looking issues though. snip Its impossible to tell you everything that needs to be recompiled, since there are essentially an infinite number of possibilities. All i can mention are the things i've run into, which are rpm, zlib, bzip2 binutils. Thus far, everything else has worked. If you can get gcc glibc upgraded and still be able to go about your day to day activities, then you should be out of the woods. As Kurt mentioned, at this time there aren't really many advantages to having the latest greatest, other than having the latest greatest. So if you aren't comfortable, then don't do it. OK, thanks for all that NL. It seems so un-linux/*nix-like that even basic system components cannot be updated in place with predictable consequences .. but if that is the way things are I will have to live with it. Regards, Geoff ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Upgrading gcc and glibc (agian) OT
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 16:21:22 +0100 Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided it was Gentoo or LFS and I actually installed Gentoo first. I could see all the advantages, yet the very convenience of e-builds again left me feeling that I was not fully in control and would not learn as much as I wanted. Also, at that time, there seemed to a couple of issues with Gentoo - the one that springs to mind was CUPS, which I could not get going and one of the CUPS gurus was saying loud and long that the e-build was defective. There was a time about 6-8 months ago when CUPS first began screwing around with Ghostscript (providing their own modifications) that I could not get CUPS to work at all even on my plain-vanilla Laserjet. This is not a gentoo problem. I reverted to the older LPR mechanisms for a couple of months, then emerged CUPS and friends again, and now it works. There are currently new versions of CUPS et al ebuilds, but I wouldn't touch these with a fork until they've aged somewhat. Once burned; twice shy. Sometimes even the competent folks at gentoo can't cope with whatever the CUPS folks have screwed up. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Upgrading gcc and glibc (agian) OT
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 16:21:22 +0100 Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not that I mind rebuilding LFS / BLFS itself, but the hours of post-installation fine-tuning will be a pain - I should have kept better notes as I went along. That's one of the strong points of gentoo. I started out keeping a log, but that went by the wayside. The many hours of post-installation fine tuning won't need to be repeated, since I will not likely be reinstalling again. I always keep a cloned copy of the system just in case anything really breaks. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
Quoth Michael Hipp: Net Llama! wrote: Mike Andrew Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. Maybe we should organize a Skippy-esque manhunt. No, I don't think so. Mikey left the list for reasons he alone can explain. He's alive and well and gainfully occupied. Kurt -- Mr. Cole's Axiom: The sum of the intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SPAM factoid...
I subscribe to DISCOVER magazine and in this months issue it has an article titled, BUILT-IN SPAM... The article discusses the constant barrage of spam that every day users suffer and dives into the madness that Microsoft has placed it's windows XP users into. Anyway, included in the article is the following factoid... Half of all email is spam, and a typical internet user receives an average of 10 unwanted messages daily. AOL recently set a dubious record. It blocked 2 billion spam e-mails in one day. Meanwhile, the number of sent e-mails worldwide is doubling every 18 months. Needless to say, that took my breath away. I have always known spam was/is a serious issue and I spend a great deal of time keeping off my homes lan and at work. What boggles my mind is the 2 billion number... I'd be amazed if anyone on AOL got real e-mail messages that day... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 1:39pm up 22 days, 23:37, 4 users, load average: 1.44, 1.54, 1.39 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SPAM factoid...
On 08/02/03 11:35, Jerry McBride wrote: I subscribe to DISCOVER magazine and in this months issue it has an article titled, BUILT-IN SPAM... The article discusses the constant barrage of spam that every day users suffer and dives into the madness that Microsoft has placed it's windows XP users into. Anyway, included in the article is the following factoid... Half of all email is spam, and a typical internet user receives an average of 10 unwanted messages daily. AOL recently set a dubious record. It blocked 2 billion spam e-mails in one day. Meanwhile, the number of sent e-mails worldwide is doubling every 18 months. Needless to say, that took my breath away. I have always known spam was/is a serious issue and I spend a great deal of time keeping off my homes lan and at work. What boggles my mind is the 2 billion number... I'd be amazed if anyone on AOL got real e-mail messages that day... I wish i could say that I, too, was surprised, but i'm not. I get over 200 spams *every* day. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 11:35am up 18 days, 14:17, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.06, 0.02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Question
List I just installed a ne Linux on my laptop. All is fine except that when I try to su - root - enter password , I get permission denied. I can login in a virtual window as root, looks like user can not login as root. I must have overlooked something here. How do I fix this, I did add user name to root in webmin, but still no go. I must have punted the ball here. any help appreciated cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SPAM factoid...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry McBride wrote: | I subscribe to DISCOVER magazine and in this months issue it has an article | titled, BUILT-IN SPAM... The article discusses the constant barrage of spam | that every day users suffer and dives into the madness that Microsoft has | placed it's windows XP users into. | | Anyway, included in the article is the following factoid... | | Half of all email is spam, and a typical internet user receives an average of | 10 unwanted messages daily. AOL recently set a dubious record. It blocked 2 | billion spam e-mails in one day. Meanwhile, the number of sent e-mails | worldwide is doubling every 18 months. | | Needless to say, that took my breath away. I have always known spam was/is a | serious issue and I spend a great deal of time keeping off my homes lan and | at work. What boggles my mind is the 2 billion number... I'd be amazed if | anyone on AOL got real e-mail messages that day... | This is from a related message I've saved. AOL tries to *sound* like they're being proactive, but in reality... - -quote- Aloha, Lonnie. Your article: ISPs Seek Bigger Mallet To Eliminate Spammers caught my attention. http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=COLUMNISTS0203 I'm an information security and computer forensics expert with detailed technical knowledge of SPAM and the technology employed by spammers. Recently I authored a report on SPAM delivery via AOL -- where a spammer gains access to the Internet for the purpose of delivering SPAM to other people elsewhere on the Internet. Considering the topic of your recent article for The Ledger, I thought you'd be interested in reading this report. AOL is being ridiculous when they suggest that their billion SPAM march on cyberspace does any good whatsoever. In fact, AOL is being downright deceptive in their assertion that blocking inbound SPAM on behalf of their subscribers who use @aol.com e-mail addresses is a virtue: AOL blocks SPAM sent to their subscribers without AOL's permission (paid 'advertisements' are sent to AOL subscribers with AOL's full support) but AOL does NOT block SPAM that AOL users send to people who use OTHER ISP's e-mail services. AOL may as well capture those billion SPAM messages and relay them to non-AOL subscribers because this is exactly what the end-result is of AOL's alleged attempts to curtail SPAM. AOL has positioned themselves to be a facilitator of SPAM transmission to non-AOL subscribers while simultaneously trumpeting their technical triumph over SPAM that originates elsewhere on the Internet and is destined for an AOL subscriber's mailbox. Your readers would be interested to know that anyone with an AOL account can send SPAM to any other AOL account and AOL will NOT block it. On the other hand, some ISPs are now blocking ALL e-mail that originates from AOL because of these very issues. Sincerely, Jason Coombs [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- A Report on SPAM Blackholes, Blocking/Filtering, and AOL For the last month I have purposefully used AOL for SMTP server mail relay in order to analyze the real-world impact of blackhole lists. AOL not only does not block outbound SMTP from dialup customers, they operate a transparent proxy farm that intercepts all outbound SMTP traffic and intentionally relays this traffic on to its intended recipient (but not its intended SMTP relay point -- you can configure ANY remote IP address as your SMTP server and AOL's proxy farm will still do your delivery for you based on the MX records present in the destination domain, you need not find an open mail relay to exploit nor set up authorized/authenticated SMTP service with any third-party service provider in order to relay SPAM through dial-up AOL Internet service). The results have been quite interesting. To summarize, only a few of my outbound e-mails have been blocked by blackhole sites in the last month. All e-mail sent to mailing lists such as bugtraq has gone through successfully. Every rejected message has been returned to me with an explanation (thank you, blackhole-enabled servers, your deterministic failure mode made this experiment possible because I didn't have to worry about whether my e-mail simply disappeared silently and could take corrective action to see that my recipient received my message through other channels). The most interesting failure I encountered was to my own domains. For e-mail service we use a third-party service provider, the same provider who does our Web hosting on Linux-based servers running Ensim (www.ensim.com). By default our service provider refuses all inbound mail delivery based on a blocking filter rule (not a blackhole service). This blocking filter considers ALL e-mail from AOL to be SPAM and refuses it. This isn't just e-mail relayed from a dial-up address block, this is ALL AOL e-mail. No user of AOL was able to send e-mail to our domains until we requested that inbound filtering be disabled. It's also interesting to
Re: mail is not reaching.
Hi
Few months back I have insalled
*spamassassin* with spamc/spamd
in one of our server.
As i have failed in subscribing to the
spamassassin list(they are giving message that they
sent email to my address for authentication but i did
not receive any mail from them till yet :-) ) so i am
asking my questions here. If anybody answers me though
, it will be helpful...
As i am getting information from our clients
that they are getting spam mails - that means few
mails are not being filtered by spamc/spamd. No. of
hits is showing -(ve)
I checked the log file. I found that the mail
which, one of the clint has reported, those are
showing as *clear messages* .
Here i is the user-prefs configuration ::
___
# How many hits before a mail is considered spam.
required_hits 4
#
# score SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME n.nn
subject-tag {SPAM?}
report_header 1
___
Here is the mail which client has forwarded
to me::: I have changed the client email address as
per their wish...
___
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Problem with Spamassassin
Hi
Few months back I have insalled
*spamassassin* with spamc/spamd
in one of our server.
As i have failed in subscribing to the
spamassassin list(they are giving message that they
sent email to my address for authentication but i did
not receive any mail from them till yet :-) ) so i am
asking my questions here. If anybody answers me though
, it will be helpful...
As i am getting information from our clients
that they are getting spam mails - that means few
mails are not being filtered by spamc/spamd. No. of
hits is showing -(ve)
I checked the log file. I found that the mail
which, one of the clint has reported, those are
showing as *clear messages* .
Here i is the user-prefs configuration ::
___
# How many hits before a mail is considered spam.
required_hits 4
#
# score SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME n.nn
subject-tag {SPAM?}
report_header 1
___
Here is the mail which client has forwarded
to me::: I have changed the client email address as
per their wish...
___
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from thebestpr1nt1ngs1teever.com
(cpe-24-197-101-203.spart.sc.charter.com
[24.197.101.203])
by server (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h71NZPP27293
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:35:25 -0700
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PRINTING CARTRIDGES, Ideal Prices
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 07:44:30 -0600
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charset=us-ascii
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server id
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tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,TONER,
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version=2.41
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I offer any
models including,
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Lexmark Epson, and HP
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___
It will be apprecited if some one guides me and help
me out - Can it be possible to solve this problem if
any thing is set to the user_pref file? The version of
spamassassin , i am running is 2.41.
Regards.
-Swapna
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Re: Question
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:12:04 -0500 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List I just installed a ne Linux on my laptop. All is fine except that when I try to su - root - enter password , I get permission denied. I can login in a virtual window as root, looks like user can not login as root. I must have overlooked something here. How do I fix this, I did add user name to root in webmin, but still no go. I must have punted the ball here. any help appreciated I'm a bit confused. You can't su as root, but you can login on a VT as root? If so, check /etc/pam.d/su Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem with Spamassassin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Swapana Ghosh wrote: | Hi | | Few months back I have insalled | *spamassassin* with spamc/spamd | in one of our server. | snip | ___ | It will be apprecited if some one guides me and help | me out - Can it be possible to solve this problem if | any thing is set to the user_pref file? The version of | spamassassin , i am running is 2.41. | | Regards. | -Swapna snip You need to update Spamassassin first. 2.41 is quite old. Try the latest cvs. (2.60) 1. cd /tmp 2. cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/spamassassin login 3. cvs -z3 - -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/spamassassin co spamassassin 4. cd spamassassin/ 5. .perl Makefile.pl 6. make 7. make test 8. make install 9. /etc/init.d/spamassassin stop 10 . /etc/init.d/spamassassin start - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 2:17pm up 20 days, 18:32, 9 users, load average: 1.58, 1.35, 1.14 - - gleemites, n.: Petrified deposits of toothpaste found in sinks. -- Sniglets, Rich Hall Friends - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/LB2uidHQ0m/kEssRAmYEAKCEabmVYpjP6SMhB5rLZ/BiTMEaqwCePQxz XMjK2Uo7dzyaDNRSW0dDqvM= =lX6U -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Problem with Spamassassin
You need to make a mailfolder for it and have procmail drop it there.
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:45:56 -0700 (PDT) - Swapana Ghosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following
Re: Problem with Spamassassin
Hi
Few months back I have insalled
*spamassassin* with spamc/spamd
in one of our server.
As i have failed in subscribing to the
spamassassin list(they are giving message that they
sent email to my address for authentication but i did
not receive any mail from them till yet :-) ) so i am
asking my questions here. If anybody answers me though
, it will be helpful...
As i am getting information from our clients
that they are getting spam mails - that means few
mails are not being filtered by spamc/spamd. No. of
hits is showing -(ve)
I checked the log file. I found that the mail
which, one of the clint has reported, those are
showing as *clear messages* .
Here i is the user-prefs configuration ::
___
# How many hits before a mail is considered spam.
required_hits 4
#
# score SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME n.nn
subject-tag {SPAM?}
report_header 1
___
Here is the mail which client has forwarded
to me::: I have changed the client email address as
per their wish...
___
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Received: from thebestpr1nt1ngs1teever.com
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[24.197.101.203])
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for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:35:25 -0700
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: PRINTING CARTRIDGES, Ideal Prices
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 07:44:30 -0600
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charset=us-ascii
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server id
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X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=4.0
tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02,TONER,
USER_AGENT_OE
version=2.41
X-Spam-Level:
67 Percent off all printing supplies!
Please see our stores,
feel what
others already have, the best ink
cartridges
at an amazining price
I offer any
models including,
Canon,
Lexmark Epson, and HP
http://u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com/neb.html
___
It will be apprecited if some one guides me and help
me out - Can it be possible to solve this problem if
any thing is set to the user_pref file? The version of
spamassassin , i am running is 2.41.
Regards.
-Swapna
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Re: Question
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List I just installed a ne Linux on my laptop. All is fine except that when I try to su - root - enter password , I get permission denied. I can login in a virtual window as root, looks like user can not login as root. I must have overlooked something here. How do I fix this, I did add user name to root in webmin, but still no go. I must have punted the ball here. any help appreciated what version of linux? is it one of those that is BSD-like and requires you to be a member of wheel in order to su as root? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
debian/gentoo/mandrake comparison
Somewhat surprising results in this quick compare, with gentoo not showing well: http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq=viewarticleartid=227page=1 http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq=viewarticleartid=227page=1 I'm sure someone will have the explanation -- Ken ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
David A. Bandel wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:12:04 -0500 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List I just installed a ne Linux on my laptop. All is fine except that when I try to su - root - enter password , I get permission denied. I can login in a virtual window as root, looks like user can not login as root. I must have overlooked something here. How do I fix this, I did add user name to root in webmin, but still no go. I must have punted the ball here. any help appreciated I'm a bit confused. You can't su as root, but you can login on a VT as root? If so, check /etc/pam.d/su Ciao, David A. Bandel Also check and see if the user you tried to su from is a member of the group wheel. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:20 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Michael Being a Norfolk islander, thats where he will still be. His address will be hard to get though. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: debian/gentoo/mandrake comparison
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 14:51:48 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhat surprising results in this quick compare, with gentoo not showing well: http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq=viewarticleartid=227page=1 http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfi le=indexreq=viewarticleartid=227page=1 I'm sure someone will have the explanation I'm not going to hold my breath. Speed of execution is somewhere near the bottom of my list of reasons for running gentoo. Overall quality, package offerings, continuous upgradeability, ease of use after the initial install, prompt resonse to reported problems are where it's at for me. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:54 pm, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/02/03 06:20, Michael Hipp wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. They are a special sort of people, one cannot live there unless you have a Norfolk hereitage or kin. They have there own languauge, its rare for them to leave the island except on business etc. Colleen McCullough lives there as she married an islander, loves the isolation. Its 2 hrs North on NZ and 2 Hrs East of Sydney in the Sth Pacific and it ain't big. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:34 am, Michael Hipp wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Mike Andrew Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. Maybe we should organize a Skippy-esque manhunt. As I said he is isolated and frankly all the islanders want it that way. They govern themselves although they are still uner Oz Govt umbrella. Its a beautiful place very small and its popular here as a short holiday destination. However they restrict the number of visitors to the available accomodation also its not cheap. Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: debian/gentoo/mandrake comparison
quoth Ken Moffat: | Somewhat surprising results in this quick compare, with gentoo not | showing well: | | | http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfil |e=indexreq=viewarticleartid=227page=1 | http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfi |le=indexreq=viewarticleartid=227page=1 | | I'm sure someone will have the explanation there's a factor here that no one has considered, but it is important. let's suppose that sco does decide to go after users and through some miscarriage of justice (hey, clinton got off the hook. which clinton? both of 'em.) sco wins. gentoo users have a defense: not guilty by reason of insanity!g,d,r -- dep Feelings of worthlessness are often brought on by worthlessness. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
Quoth dep: quoth Keith Antoine: | As I said he is isolated and frankly all the islanders want it that | way. They govern themselves although they are still uner Oz Govt | umbrella. Its a beautiful place very small and its popular here as a | short holiday destination. However they restrict the number of | visitors to the available accomodation also its not cheap. and they have a great national slogan: we don't smoke. we don't drink. norfolk, norfolk, norfolk! Which likely explains the population problem... Kurt -- Valerie: Aww, Tom, you're going maudlin on me ... Tom: I reserve the right to wax maudlin as I wane eloquent ... -- Tom Chapin ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm install
On 08/02/03 15:58, Keith Antoine wrote: At the risk of being boring and getting back to kernel compile: I do an rpm -q gtk+, only to get told its not installed. Yet I did install the package, so I tried for about the third time, but in command mode I rpm -ihv --nodeps --force gtk+2.0x.rpm after installing it obce agin tells me its not installed and locate cannot find any of its libs etc either. Is it me or Mandrake ? A bit of each :) try: rpm -qa | grep gtk+ -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:10pm up 18 days, 18:52, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm install
Quoth Keith Antoine: At the risk of being boring and getting back to kernel compile: I do an rpm -q gtk+, only to get told its not installed. Yet I did install the package, so I tried for about the third time, but in command mode I rpm -ihv --nodeps --force gtk+2.0x.rpm after installing it obce agin tells me its not installed and locate cannot find any of its libs etc either. Is it me or Mandrake ? Yes. ;-) Kurt -- An American's a person who isn't afraid to criticize the President but is always polite to traffic cops. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:47:36 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: quoth Keith Antoine: | As I said he is isolated and frankly all the islanders want it that | way. They govern themselves although they are still uner Oz Govt | umbrella. Its a beautiful place very small and its popular here as a | short holiday destination. However they restrict the number of | visitors to the available accomodation also its not cheap. and they have a great national slogan: we don't smoke. we don't drink. norfolk, norfolk, norfolk! === Gee, dep, Keith made it sound rather intriguing. No drinking?? sigh I just lost interest ;o) Mike (not Andrew) -- The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life --Muhammad Ali ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm install
Keith Antoine wrote: At the risk of being boring and getting back to kernel compile: I do an rpm -q gtk+, only to get told its not installed. Yet I did install the package, so I tried for about the third time, but in command mode I rpm -ihv --nodeps --force gtk+2.0x.rpm after installing it obce agin tells me its not installed and locate cannot find any of its libs etc either. Is it me or Mandrake ? For locate try running updatedb and for rpm try rpm --rebuilddb and see if you still have that prob... -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Question
David Ted Gary Thanks for the point in direction. root and me both not in wheel. I also was forced to look at pam, never had to before, learning something everyday. Many thanks for the help Oh, I am using the gentoo r4 on a Dell Latitude CPx 650. Runs like a top on a Winders Only Box he he So much for made winders only. cheers Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Problem with Spamassassin
Hi Andrew Thanks for your reply. You need to update Spamassassin first. 2.41 is quite old. Try the latest cvs. (2.60) 1. cd /tmp 2. cvs -d:pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/spamassassin login 3. cvs -z3 - -d:pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/spamassassin co spamassassin 4. cd spamassassin/ 5. .perl Makefile.pl 6. make 7. make test 8. make install 9. /etc/init.d/spamassassin stop 10 . /etc/init.d/spamassassin start Could you please tell me the line no. 2,3 ? In my present installation I am not starting/stopping spamasassin. I am starting/stopping *spamd*.. As i have installed spamc/spamd. Now before this I need to tell about my present configurtatoin and server Here it is . Pl. advice me how I will proceed in this present scenario.. First of all my server is Cobalt Raq4r. So there we can't upgrade the perl etc(if it is required) as we are under warranty of Cobalt. Now when i installed the *spamassassin* , I followed Bassi's instruction which i got from the Cobalt lists. Here are the following url which i downloaded that time http://spamassassin.taint.org/released/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.41.tar.gz http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Pod/podlators-1.24.tar.gz http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/DEWEG/Time-HiRes-01.20.tar.gz http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Pod/PodParser-1.18.tar.gz I had installed spamc/spamd also.I am starting spamd as follows: /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd start Now all the configuration files are under /etc/mail/spamassassin. I had done site wise configuration.. And according to the user's choice modifying the user_prefs under each user's directory. I have set the procmail rules in /etc/procmailrc as follows: --- # SpamAssassin to its knees. DROPPRIVS=yes :0fw * 256000 | spamc ## :0: * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* Maildir/ # All mail tagged as spam (eg. with a score higher than the set threshold) # is moved to probably-spam. :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes Maildir/ --- The perl version in our server is perl-5.00503-2 Now please suggest me how i will upgrade the present installation with spamc/spamd... Best regards. -Swapna __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
:) Oh, I can imagine that I got a well-deserved roasting... begin On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 21:08:36 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell you've been talking to my ex-wives. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
I think it was Doug, too, that fixed the script I needed fixed... I think it was DHCP screwing with the hosts file or somethingorother :) begin On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 21:45:20 -0500 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List All have said a lot about ed, but when I was fairly new then I tried 4 or 5 distros, they all had some problem to get them up and going. ED, put in the cd make a few slections in about 45 minutes to an hour you were syrfing the net. No muss, no fuss. Easy to learn, easier to maintain. and with Dougs fix of checkinstall, I think it was Doug, if wrong I 'm sorry, we had another tool to build our programs. My $0.02. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hahaha
It looks like Spam... It smells like Spam... but his Xmailer is Ximian Evolution What kinda spam marks it like THAT!? begin On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 03:41:08 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whats up. I thought you might be interested in this. its a godsend, I have saved a fortune are you prepared for lower mortgage repayments? http://btrack.iwon.com/r.pl?redir=http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/viewso65/index.asp?RefID=198478 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: What was it about eD 2.4?
What about his email address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something like that? begin On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:21:05 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being a Norfolk islander, thats where he will still be. His address will be hard to get though. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
