Re: FS statistics on 2.6.0-test2

2003-08-10 Thread Net Llama!
On 08/08/03 06:20, Collins Richey wrote:

Interesting article and lots of critiques at

	http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/715

The following extract shows the basic differences.  This is German
number notation with commas and periods reversed.
 reiser4   reiserfs   ext3   XFS JFS
copy 33.39,34%  39.55,32%  39.42,25%  43.50,32%  48.15,20%
sync1.54,00%   3.15,10%   9.05,00%2.08,10%3.05,10%
recopy1  31.09,34%  75.15,13%  79.96, 9% 102.37,12% 108.39, 5%
recopy2  33.15,33%  77.62,13%  98.84, 7% 108.00,12% 114.96, 5%
sync  2.89, 3%   3.84, 1%   8.15, 0%   2.40, 2%   3.86, 0%
du2.05,42%   2.46,21%   3.31,11%   3.73,32%   2.42,17%
delete7.41,52%   5.22,58%   3.71,39%   8.75,56%  15.33, 7%
tar  52.25,25%  90.83,12%  74.93,13% 157.61, 7% 135.86, 6%
sync  6.77, 2%   4.19, 3%   1.67, 1%   0.95, 1%  38.18, 0%
overall 171.28,30% 302.53,16% 319.71,11% 429.79,13% 470.88, 6%
In general, reiser4 looks to be a real winner (when it's out of
development, of course), and my favorite EXT3 and everyone else's
favorite XFS are among the slowest.
Its also worth noting that there have been quite a few discussions about 
this on the XFS list.  The developers there have already poked a few holes 
in the accuracy of these measurements, such as the fact that comparing 
anything on a 2.6.0-test kernel is pointless considering how much of a 
moving target it is, plus the distinct lack of information on the version 
of xfs userland tools in use.  Also, XFS in 2.6.x is not considered to be 
stable by the XFS developers, and in their words, anyone using 2.6.0-test 
kernels for anything serious needs to have their head examined.

What would be far more telling would be a similar test on 2.4.21, with 
detailed information on the test environment.

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Re: Samba with no passwords

2003-08-10 Thread Matthew Carpenter
h  This is still required to use smbmount... I'm not certain about
smbfs and /etc/fstab...

Did you try the password= attribute?  Since most people don't do a blank
password or a guest account, this may be a requirement...


On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:15:06 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:46:55 -0400
 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  chmod 4755 `which smbmnt`
 
 Sounds good, but no workie!  I still get the same error.
 
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RE: Logon time limits

2003-08-10 Thread Wil McGilvery
There is short discussion about tracking the time of logged in users at 
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/1/2003/05/2/58613

I would think you could record the time logged in and the time logged out for each 
user the time using login and logout scripts.

The difference for each session would be the time spent logged in and this could kept 
in a file on your box. When someone logs in the login script
Checks the file and accepts/rejects the login based on the time accumulated.

A simple cron job would reset the information every week.

I sorry I cannot be more specific, but alas, I do not do a lot of scripting myself.

Maybe someone on the list proficient in this area could help you out.

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-Original Message-
From: ronnie gauthier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Go look at ISP accounting packages or maybe cafe software, you will probably
want to run some type of raduis server for authentication.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:09:02 -0500 - Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the
following
Re: Logon time limits

Is there a way to set logon time limits for up  to a set number of hours 
  in an arbitrary time period (like a week)?

The goal is to limit logon time for the kids over a week to cut down on 
fighting over the computers on the network.  I really don't want to 
confine them to a set time period each day because that will not help 
them learn to budget their own time.

TIA

 -- Alma

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raid mirror

2003-08-10 Thread Keith Antoine
I think that when i sent the last mail I was as usual confused and did
not give enough information. We will be using the Asus A7N8X Delux board
with built in SATA raid. So its hardware raid.
Also does it require that they drives sit either both on the SATA side or 
both on
the IDE side ?

Does one on the ide sit on the normal primary and the second drive sit on 
the raid
connection ?

With the Sata raid I am guessing that both drives sit on the SATA bus.

Do I need raid 0 or 1, it seems that I need 1, However it also seems to me that
if you lose the primary its not so easy, unless you replace the drive with 
a duplicate
that its that easy to recover ??

Help grin

Skippy

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Re: How to setup clusters

2003-08-10 Thread Alma J Wetzker
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:26:25 -0700
On 08/08/03 15:04, Alma J Wetzker wrote:
Our IEEE chapter at school is going to setup a linux cluster.  Does 
anyone have any experience/advice/interesting opinions about doing 
so? I am wondering if there is a good distro or any other 
wonderfulnes that will make the thing fun and last the semester.


What do you plan to use it for?  'clusters' have *ALOT* of different 
meanings and uses, and that is heavily dependent on how you set one up.
We plan on using it to learn how to setup clusters.

My personal interest is distributed applications, so a virtual machine 
running a database would be good.  But we don't have the disk space to 
make it worthwhile.  I hope to use more than one configuration before we 
are done.

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Re: LinuxWorld 2003!

2003-08-10 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Come on Llama!  Where's the gratuitous self-photo??

On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pictures are available here:
 http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/


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Re: Another nail in SCO's coffin...

2003-08-10 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:50:11 +
James Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IBM counter-sues SCO
 
 http://money.cnn.com/services/tickerheadlines/for5/200308071223DOWJONESDJONLINE001147_FORTUNE5.htm
 
 At around noon EDT, shares of SCO Group were down $1.28, or 11%, to
$10.72 on the Nasdaq Stock Market. IBM's stock was up 57 cents to $80.32
a share on the New York Stock Exchange.


10.72 is pretty strong for a worthles POS!

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Re: System Drag

2003-08-10 Thread burns
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 13:03, Andrew Mathews wrote:

 
 I'd check to make sure up2date didn't leave any errant processes
 running. I notice this happening when I have a bunch of kio_http
 processes running, but that may be kde relevant only. What browser are
 you using, have you logged out and back in, rebooted the system, and
 checked what the top process is while this is happening?

Hi Andrew, I'm using Konqueror. I find Mozilla to be too klugey.

I don't see anything unusual in TOP except a whole lot of Redhat GUI
clutter... and cannaserver, which I believe is a japanese language
module that I have been trying to remove from my configuration (without
a lot of success, apparently). There are also multiple kdeinit entries,
which have me wondering.

TOP output follows:

5:21pm  up  6:25,  5 users,  load average: 3.55, 1.70, 0.70
100 processes: 94 sleeping, 5 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 55.5% user, 44.4% system,  0.0% nice,  0.0% idle
Mem:   255336K av,  249760K used,5576K free,   0K shrd,7092K
buff
Swap:  788208K av,   0K used,  788208K free  137984K
cached

  PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
  934 root   5 -10 35304  22M  4664 S9.9  8.9  26:51 X
 1035 burns 16   0  7832 7832  7716 R 6.7  3.0   0:28 kdeinit
 1038 burns 15   0  8984 8984  7736 S 5.5  3.5   0:24 kdeinit
25825 burns 15   0 14948  14M 12940 S 3.9  5.8   0:00 kdeinit
  825 xfs   16   0  5436 5436   924 S 3.1  2.1   0:12 xfs
 1041 burns 15   0  9204 9204  8820 S 2.5  3.6   0:13 kdeinit
 1043 burns 15   0 10624  10M  9768 S 1.5  4.1   0:14 kdeinit
 1073 burns 15   0 14984  14M 12736 S 1.5  5.8   0:11 kdeinit
 1106 burns 15   0 10236   9M  9504 S 1.3  4.0   0:08 kdeinit
20461 burns 15   0 23012  22M 16364 S 1.3  9.0   0:05 kdeinit
20459 root  15   0  1112 1112   856 S 0.5  0.4   0:01 top
21943 burns 15   0 13116  12M 11560 S 0.5  5.1   0:01 kdeinit
22311 burns 15   0  1104 1104   852 S 0.5  0.4   0:00 top
26262 burns 16   0  1108 1108   852 R 0.5  0.4   0:00 top
 1069 burns 15   0 12116  11M 10872 S 0.3  4.7   0:03 kdeinit
18987 burns 15   0  9488 9484  7684 S 0.3  3.7   1:45
gnome-system-mo
1 root  16   0   484  484   432 S 0.1  0.1   0:05 init
27813 burns 16   0  8408 8408  8156 S 0.1  3.2   0:00 kdeinit
27902 burns 16   0  7960 7960  7932 S 0.1  3.1   0:00 kdeinit
2 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 keventd
3 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kapmd
4 root  34  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00
ksoftirqd_CPU0
5 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kswapd
6 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 bdflush
7 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kupdated
8 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00
mdrecoveryd
   12 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kjournald
   68 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 khubd
  226 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kjournald
  542 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 eth0
  611 root  15   0   556  556   480 S 0.0  0.2   0:00 syslogd
  615 root  15   0   448  448   396 S 0.0  0.1   0:00 klogd
  632 rpc   15   0   560  560   488 S 0.0  0.2   0:00 portmap
  695 root  16   0  1464 1464  1220 S 0.0  0.5   0:00 sshd
  710 root  15   0   900  900   744 S 0.0  0.3   0:00 xinetd
  724 privoxy   16   0   892  892   668 S 0.0  0.3   0:00 privoxy
  733 root  15   0   452  452   404 S 0.0  0.1   0:00 gpm
  743 bin   15   0   892  892   568 S 0.0  0.3   0:00
cannaserver
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Re: Recomendation

2003-08-10 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:41:35 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:

 Had two newbies here that I put mandrake 9.1 that i helped put up for
 them. It was a breeze and they have had no problems so far.

Thanks Skippy
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Re: System Drag

2003-08-10 Thread myles-green



- Original Message -
From: burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:31 am
Subject: System Drag

 I'm running Redhat 8.0 on AMD Athalon 1800 with 256MB of DDRAM, 
 runningto the internet through a Netgear router and a DSL modem. I 
 run no
 outside services - this is purely a desktop system. However, as I 
 intendto play with it (when I get time), I chose the INSTALL ALL 
 option.
 Following an uneventful install, I used the Redhat Up2date manager to
 update all versions and patches. Twice I had my ISP network fail 
 duringthis process, nevertheless I did manage to finally get all 
 the packages
 pulled down and installed. However, since that time I have noticed
 network transactions, particularly web page loading to be very 
 sluggish.On a hunch I checked and found that when pulling down web 
 pages my CPU
 rate hits 100% and in some cases stays at that level for the 10-15
 seconds it takes to load the page. This is unusual, as I am on 3.0Mbs
 broadband DSL, with about 2.0 - 2.5 actual. Memory usage is high, but
 not into swap.
 
 I checked background process in all runlevels and found nothing 
 unusual,except that for some reason sendmail was active in 
 runlevels 3, 4 and 5.
 I have disabled that.  I also disabled the firewall, but the 
 differencewas minimal. The router shows no unusual volume or 
 activity. And I can
 see no obvious unusual entries in my boot or system logs.
 
 Any suggestions, folks?
 -- 
 burns

Hi Burns,

I found that installing RH9 cured the problems I experienced with RH8, which were very 
similar to what you describe. IMHO, RH8 was like the typical RH x.0 release  and RH9 
behaves more like a RHx.1 or x.2 release. IOW, RH9~=RH8.2.

I know that's probably not the answer you were looking for but it 'worked for me' ;o)

Myles

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Re: SCO Sucks

2003-08-10 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Bill Campbell:
 On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:53:39PM -0400, Kurt Wall wrote:
 ...
 Yes I am, Burns. I would already have quit, though, once they started
 this nonsense. That said, they've effectively purged all of the Linux
 people from the company anyway. Now I think about it, SCO had to get
 rid of their Linux-friendly staff before doing this - can you say
 disgruntled ex-employees?
 
 I know about a half-dozen really competent technical folks still working
 for SCO out of Santa Cruz, all of whom have families addicted to food.
 Nobody in the corporate offices listens to them though.

I was only speaking of the people in Lindon/Orem/Provo/Salt Lake. I
dealt with some of the people in Santa Cruz, but only via phone and 
not for very long before I left. It was already clear in 2000 that
SCO were somehow taking over and I already knew I didn't want anything
to do with what the company was doing and becoming.

 On the other hand, I was talking to another friend who was one of the most
 technically savvy people I've known at SCO over the years, and he said that
 he now doesn't want to admit he ever worked for them.

I know how he feels.

Kurt
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to stand, and I will drain the world.
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