Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-03 Thread Collins Richey
[ all intersting stuff stripped ] Well, sometime this weekend, I'll crank up my work laptop and post a nastygram to the Webnazi (oops Webmaster) of the offending list to see if he'll consider dropping the blocking crap otherwise unsubscribe me. Based on some interchanges with other users in the

Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-01 Thread James McDonald
Don't know, but a pox on all of them! We even had this crap on this list back when Doug experimented with that type of service. Which is why black lists are hopefully going to be superceded by the newer statistical and bayesian spam filtering style of control... I got a bounce the other day

RE: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-01 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
James McDonald wrote: Address blocks are more popular/easier to apply policies on than single addresses. So the tendency is for us to get tarred with the same brush as a spammer on the same network as us. I'll second that. There are Australian sites I can't visit from work because they are in

Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 09:28:44AM -0700, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: James McDonald wrote: Address blocks are more popular/easier to apply policies on than single addresses. So the tendency is for us to get tarred with the same brush as a spammer on the same network as us. I'll second that.

Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-01 Thread David A. Bandel
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:46:41 -0700 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] On the other hand, there are serious problems with open relays and open proxies on major cable providers such as Comcast, Road Runner, et al caused by clueless folks who just plug in their Windows viruses

Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:50:28PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:46:41 -0700 ... We had a little debate going over Internet Service Deniers on the ISP-Linux list. A number of ISPs supported denying outgoing ports (mostly 25). While I don't like some traffic, denying ports

Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-01 Thread David A. Bandel
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:34:29 -0700 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:50:28PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:46:41 -0700 ... We had a little debate going over Internet Service Deniers on the ISP-Linux list. A number of ISPs supported

Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 01:52:19PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: ... The above notwithstanding: 1. blocking is denying a service, not providing it Blocking a service that's prohibited in their Terms of Service. 2. travelers who go to a hotel often don't know the mail servers of whatever

Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-07-01 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 14:52 pm, David A. Bandel wrote: Spam is a byproduct of stupidity and laziness. Some stupid/lazy companies include Norton. I get spam from them regularly about how they can help keep my Windoze systems virus free (didn't know X windows had viruses). Hmmm... I

Webnazis R Us

2003-06-30 Thread Collins Richey
I just had an interesting experience today in changing my subscriber address on another list. My service changed today from attbi.com to comcast.net, so I began changing my subscriber address on various lists. No problemo, until I came to a list that uses a ^£!%fscking service called

Re: Webnazis R Us

2003-06-30 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:36:13 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Collins Richey: I just had an interesting experience today in changing my subscriber address on another list. My service changed today from attbi.com to comcast.net, so I began changing my subscriber address