Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:51:05 -0700 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: snippage Speaking of roasts, how 'bout the ``I can eat hotter food than you'' contest between Evan, Calamity, et al. == hehehe I joined the list just about that time and I remember

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Hipp
Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Net Llama!
On 08/02/03 06:20, Michael Hipp wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. --

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 08:20:35 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Amen, brother. --

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Hipp
Net Llama! wrote: Mike Andrew Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. Maybe we should organize a Skippy-esque manhunt. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Michael Hipp: Net Llama! wrote: Mike Andrew Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. Maybe we should organize a Skippy-esque manhunt. No, I don't think so. Mikey left the list for reasons he alone can explain. He's alive and well and gainfully

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Keith Antoine
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:20 pm, Michael Hipp wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Michael Being a Norfolk islander, thats where he will

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Keith Antoine
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:54 pm, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/02/03 06:20, Michael Hipp wrote: Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this ... Mike Andrew He helped me alot. Wherever he is, God bless him. Last I heard

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Keith Antoine
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:34 am, Michael Hipp wrote: Net Llama! wrote: Mike Andrew Last I heard he's still on Norfolk Island, in self-imposed exile. Maybe we should organize a Skippy-esque manhunt. As I said he is isolated and frankly all the islanders want it that way. They

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth dep: quoth Keith Antoine: | As I said he is isolated and frankly all the islanders want it that | way. They govern themselves although they are still uner Oz Govt | umbrella. Its a beautiful place very small and its popular here as a | short holiday destination. However they restrict

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:47:36 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: quoth Keith Antoine: | As I said he is isolated and frankly all the islanders want it that | way. They govern themselves although they are still uner Oz Govt | umbrella. Its a beautiful place very small and its popular

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter
:) Oh, I can imagine that I got a well-deserved roasting... begin On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 21:08:36 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell you've been talking to my ex-wives. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I think it was Doug, too, that fixed the script I needed fixed... I think it was DHCP screwing with the hosts file or somethingorother :) begin On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 21:45:20 -0500 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List All have said a lot about ed, but when I was fairly new then I

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-02 Thread Matthew Carpenter
What about his email address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something like that? begin On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:21:05 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being a Norfolk islander, thats where he will still be. His address will be hard to get though. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Carpenter
chkconfig smb on chkconfig nmb on They separated the file service from the name service so they both need to be started... The chkconfig utility is quite nice. On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:33:43 -0500 Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am testing out SuSE and I still can't get samba to

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread phillipp
Caldera made a nice cake, but D.B. and friends put on the 'fine' icing! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:05:47 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:29 am, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Lots of people wrote too much to quote. Between reminiscing about eDesk 2.4 and favorite brews, this is becoming another eDesk 2.4 wake. Not that that is a bad

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Net Llama! shocked and awed us all by speaking: No offense, but what's with the critique of answers? I didn't realize that this had do be an essay with well thought out replies. just trying to get to the 'meat-and-potatos' part of it all. hard to

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Carpenter
That's ok. Let's just say that between you and Kurt, I learned a lot of showing respect and being humble, especially on an email list. On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 08:43:23 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Carpenter wrote: | :)

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Matthew Carpenter: That's ok. Let's just say that between you and Kurt, I learned a lot of showing respect and being humble, especially on an email list. Hmm. I think this is a compliment, but I'm not sure. I've certainly been know to enter a fray with a double-barreled flamethrower, but

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Keith Morse
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Matthew Carpenter: That's ok. Let's just say that between you and Kurt, I learned a lot of showing respect and being humble, especially on an email list. Hmm. I think this is a compliment, but I'm not sure. I've certainly been know to enter a

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Matthew Carpenter: That's ok. Let's just say that between you and Kurt, I learned a lot of showing respect and being humble, especially on an email list.

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 05:59:10PM -0400, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Matthew Carpenter: That's ok. Let's just say that between you and Kurt, I learned a lot of showing respect and being humble, especially on an email list. Hmm. I think this is a compliment, but I'm not sure. I've certainly been

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Bill Campbell: On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 05:59:10PM -0400, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Matthew Carpenter: That's ok. Let's just say that between you and Kurt, I learned a lot of showing respect and being humble, especially on an email list. Hmm. I think this is a compliment, but I'm not

TIDRe: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Andrew Mathews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Carpenter wrote: | That's ok. Let's just say that between you and Kurt, I learned a lot of | showing respect and being humble, especially on an email list. | snip Mine came from David Bandel back in '98 or '99 when I posted to the Caldera list

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Actually, Kurt, you were the one loaning me some asbestos undergarments, protecting me from the (so I thought at that time) evil Andrew Mathews... Still, watching you still humbled me. It reminded me of the Mudding days of old, when I was a newbie and some uberMudder allowed me to join him on

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Rick Sivernell
List All have said a lot about ed, but when I was fairly new then I tried 4 or 5 distros, they all had some problem to get them up and going. ED, put in the cd make a few slections in about 45 minutes to an hour you were syrfing the net. No muss, no fuss. Easy to learn, easier to maintain. and

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-08-01 Thread Andrew Mathews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Carpenter wrote: | Actually, Kurt, you were the one loaning me some asbestos undergarments, protecting me from the (so I thought at that time) evil Andrew Mathews... snip I can tell you've been talking to my ex-wives. - -- Andrew Mathews -

What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Tina M Berendt
Given the recent interest in resurrecting and maintaining the old Caldera distro, I thought I'd take a minute to ask everyone to quantify what it was about eD (or eS) that was so great. Was it the file layout? The installer? The GUI tools? What? I used and loved eD, but find it hard to say why

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? 0) Nearly everything worked out of the box (hardware, software) 1) The packages included were well chosen. There was a little of everything for everyone, and not too much of anything irrelevant 2) It was very

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shawn L Johnston shocked and awed us all by speaking: On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:49, Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? It was elegant, from installation to end use. whilst I agree, that's not very specific is it? In

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Net Llama! shocked and awed us all by speaking: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? 0) Nearly everything worked out of the box (hardware, software) nod. much like Knoppix's hardware detection

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas J Hunley shocked and awed us all by speaking: whilst I agree, that's not very specific is it? In fact, it's rather objectively non-specific. got any details Shawn? damn! s/objectively/subjectively/ - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Aaron Grewell
1) The packages included were well chosen. There was a little of everything for everyone, and not too much of anything irrelevant that's subjective Llama (I'm not disagreeing). But how does one define 'well chosen' and 'relevant'? It seemed to me that they picked a set of categories

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Thompson
At 01:49 PM 7/31/03 -0400, you wrote: Given the recent interest in resurrecting and maintaining the old Caldera distro, I thought I'd take a minute to ask everyone to quantify what it was about eD (or eS) that was so great. Was it the file layout? The installer? The GUI tools? What? I used and

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Andrew Mathews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tina M Berendt wrote: | Given the recent interest in resurrecting and maintaining the old | Caldera distro, I thought I'd take a minute to ask everyone to quantify | what it was about eD (or eS) that was so great. Was it the file layout? | The

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Michael Hipp
Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? - It was solid. It worked. It was stable. Gave the impression that some real QA had gone into it. - Webmin and Caldera's extensions to the KDE control center were great. - They focused on 1 GUI and made that one work really well.

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Matthew Carpenter
* Things generally worked. * Install was beautiful and intelligent (found my network settings and installed while I finished supplying config info) * Packages were used AS IS. Any config or comealong tools worked with the original config files (which allowed you to manually edit the conf files

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Speak for yourself, jerk-wad :) On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:30:39 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We may bicker, roll our eyes, scoff or call each other names, but that dynamic is also what makes a list worth listening to. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread James Conner
On Thursday 31 July 2003 05:49 pm, Tina M Berendt wrote: Given the recent interest in resurrecting and maintaining the old Caldera distro, I thought I'd take a minute to ask everyone to quantify what it was about eD (or eS) that was so great. Was it the file layout? The installer? The GUI

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Keith Antoine
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 04:40 am, Shawn L Johnston wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:49, Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? It was elegant, from installation to end use. Shawn Yes, that describes it souciently. Plus maintenance was so easy it did not matter, rpm or

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Lots of people wrote too much to quote. Between reminiscing about eDesk 2.4 and favorite brews, this is becoming another eDesk 2.4 wake. Not that that is a bad thing. How many other distro's of the past command such fond loyalty? I still keep eDesk 2.4 on an old P 233 box. It is a word

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Jerry McBride
On Thursday 31 July 2003 01:49 pm, Tina M Berendt wrote: Given the recent interest in resurrecting and maintaining the old Caldera distro, I thought I'd take a minute to ask everyone to quantify what it was about eD (or eS) that was so great. --snip-- - It cleanly installed on just about

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Net Llama!
No offense, but what's with the critique of answers? I didn't realize that this had do be an essay with well thought out replies. On 07/31/03 12:01, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Net Llama! shocked and awed us all by speaking: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Tina M

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth James Conner: On Thursday 31 July 2003 05:49 pm, Tina M Berendt wrote: [clip] So, what *specifically* made eD so great? [snip] Sometimes I wonder if the 'warm fuzzies' from eD2.4 are just nostalgia, kinda like that car you had, or that favorite chair, or is it genuine admiration

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Bob Hemus
Tina M Berendt wrote: snip So, what *specifically* made eD so great? I'm not linux learned. I got POed at M$ and not knowing much stumbled upon Indiot's Guide to Linux and started with 1.3. I migrated to 2.2, 2.3 and finally to eD2.4. Everything worked on my box. When it didn't I called

What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Alma J Wetzker
liked the comercial apps that shipped with the product. And I still need a novell client. (That disappeared after eD 2.4) FWIW -- Alma What was it about eD 2.4? Tina M Berendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:49:11 -0400 Given the recent interest in resurrecting and maintaining

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Andrew Mathews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Carpenter wrote: | Speak for yourself, jerk-wad :) | | On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:30:39 -0600 | Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | |We may bicker, roll our |eyes, scoff or call each other names, but that dynamic is also what makes a |list

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Tina M Berendt: Given the recent interest in resurrecting and maintaining the old Caldera distro, I thought I'd take a minute to ask everyone to quantify what it was about eD (or eS) that was so great. Was it the file layout? The installer? The GUI tools? What? I used and loved eD,

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:05:05 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 04:40 am, Shawn L Johnston wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:49, Tina M Berendt wrote: So, what *specifically* made eD so great? It was elegant, from installation to end use. Shawn Yes,

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Keith Antoine
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:29 am, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Lots of people wrote too much to quote. Between reminiscing about eDesk 2.4 and favorite brews, this is becoming another eDesk 2.4 wake. Not that that is a bad thing. How many other distro's of the past command such fond loyalty? I

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Keith Antoine wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:29 am, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: > Lots of people wrote too much to quote. > > Between reminiscing about eDesk 2.4 and favorite brews, this is becoming > another eDesk 2.4 wake. > Not that that is a bad thing. How many other distro's of the past >

Re: What was it about eD 2.4?

2003-07-31 Thread Matthew Carpenter
:) Glad to know we can still joke around. I still remember the first time you and I spoke... it was not necessarily pleasant, in fact I believe Kurt had to step in :) Great to still be seeing you, mate! Time does odd things. On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:08:34 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED]