Re: [SLE] A gentle request
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 21:29:11 -0400 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 21 September 2001 19:51 pm, Glenn Williams wrote: On Friday 21 September 2001 15:24, you wrote: [snip] To whom that applies When replying to a mail please _DO_NOT CC to the person. As this person is on the list also you are just increasing bandwith usage for both sides. Since the only way you can send an email to any SuSE mailling Lists is only if the person is subscribed what is the benefit of CC'ing to the others who tried to provide an answer unless the original email sender has requested to be CC'ed. Here's the problem (mail-client-specific - in my case, Kmail): Like many of you, I subscribe to 2 Linux mail lists; the SuSE list and the generic list Doug hosts. If I want to reply to something on the linux-users list, I click the 'reply' icon. If I do the same thing on the SuSE list, the reply goes to the *author* and not the list, so then I must open the address book, find the address for the SuSE list, click on it, and then delete the author's address. Big deal! you say. But it is a royal PIA from where I sit. If I remember, (*if*) I can click the 'reply ALL' icon and then remember to delete the extra address. It would be great if they both worked the same way - but they don't. My 2 kopecks... Regards (so why did you send this to the linux.nf list??) But I agree with you 100%. Every other list I have *ever* joined works by just hitting 'reply', but some of the S.O.B.'s on the SuSE list think that their way is the 'pure' way. And I think I'm going to drop that list just because of it. More because of the attitude than having to spend the time to make sure the mail goes to the right place. (but of couse, they don't care) Even with these recalcitrant beasts. sylpheed is a big help. Just click on reply, then blank out the to: address, key xx tab enter (assuming you have @yyy with nickname xx in you address book), and you're off and flying. -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] A gentle request
On Saturday 22 September 2001 0:00 am, Collins Richey wrote: Even with these recalcitrant beasts. sylpheed is a big help. Just click on reply, then blank out the to: address, key xx tab enter (assuming you have @yyy with nickname xx in you address book), and you're off and flying. Pretty much the same with Kmail. There are a lot of other reasons I don't like sylpheed and I've tried it a few times. No more. And they have their share of opinionated SOB's too.(or maybe there's a pattern here... :o) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/22/01 00:20 + ++ It IS as BAD as you think, and they ARE out to get you. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Webserver config (permissions?)
No I didnt, no reason to. It has to do with internal redirects. Which is what happens as there is no real ~dad/ just whatever/whatever/dad/, if you specify a file you obviously dont need a trailing slash. On Friday 21 September 2001 21:13, Tim Wunder wrote: Hi Ronnie, Previously, Ronnie Gauthier chose to write: Any normal web page or graphic whould be rw-r-r try 24.249.182.134:8192/~dad/ note the trailing slash I guess you didn't try accessing my server with that, did you (there's nothing in my access_log)? It seems, now, that 192.168.1.2/~dad/ works, but 192.168.1.2/~dad doesn't. So that could be right. But I don't remember that being the case last night. FYI, snippets from my error_log: [Fri Sep 21 09:00:39 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C^A [Fri Sep 21 09:00:40 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C [Fri Sep 21 09:00:45 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C [Fri Sep 21 09:00:54 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C [Fri Sep 21 09:01:03 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C I haven't the foggiest notion what Invalid method in request 80 means. 162.33.157.18 is the IP address of my router at work. and from my access_log: 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:08:59:56 -0400] GET /~dad HTTP/1.1 301 308 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:09 -0400] GET /~dad HTTP/1.1 301 308 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:39 -0400] 80F^A^C^A 501 - 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:40 -0400] 80F^A^C 501 - 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:45 -0400] 80F^A^C 501 - 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:54 -0400] 80F^A^C 501 - 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:01:03 -0400] 80F^A^C 501 - Because of restrictions with my router, I can't test my config. The router will not do port forwarding if the source of the request is from the internal network. snip Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Webserver config (permissions?)
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously, Myles Green chose to write: I just tried it from here and it seems to work just fine =) The Fathers Club St. Ursula School The above is what I see... Thanks Myles. Now, all I need to do is make a real web site. Might even get myself a domain name... You're welcome. Oh, it wasn't real? I didn't try going beyond the index page. There are a few places where you can get dynamic redirecting to your machine if you don't have a permanent IP address... -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: nimda worm
I went to one of those sites with netscape. I downloaded one file (readme). Once, I got a TESTING message on my browser. Nothing else. Don't you think that using IE was the problem? Joel On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 06:15:48PM -0500, Bill Day wrote: Its not your fault, Im nosy 8) I did let it dl the .eml file but as to how I got all those and such was wierd.. They even migrated to samba shares(and winboxes) somehow. I visited one page (206.230.156.209) with I.E. and closed all open window imdeiately then trie dwith konquerer figured Id be safe. however i found (400 not 4000) on my linuxbox and exactly 198 on each winbox that was up at the time. both had infected load.exe in windows/system/ and then a *.eml in every folder on the box... truly wierd.. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Redmond Linux
i'd suggest trying a recent build - beta 3 was build 31; build 39 is out [RC0] and build 40 will be out soon [RC1]. it's entirely possible that it's an old RL bug. thanks! joe On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Lee wrote: Have installed the beta 3 Redmond Linux on a 233 mmx with 64 meg memory. Installation went fine even had a driver for my old S3 928 video chip. Problem is that any time I open up the menu the thing locks up. That's before I even select an item from the menu. The program just locks up with the menu opened on the kde desktop. Strange thing is that I can alt-f2 get a command line punch in commands such as ksaferppp and dial out and connect to the ISP and even order up Netscape through the alt-f2 command window. But the menu on the kde desktop stays locked up.even though the mouse pointer still moves Any suggestions? Lee ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Administrivia: netiquette and off-topic
At 18:19 18/09/01 -0400, you wrote: 2. please let's start getting back on track here. I'm willing to create [EMAIL PROTECTED] is there is enough interest... *** Sounds like a good idea... Zoran. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: BP adds to Open Source
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:00:44 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | If you have some relevant, non-proprietary benchmarks for the | performance of | seismic code in Fortran on Linux vs. C on Linux using an open-source | compiler, let's see them. I was unable to find an open source Fortran | compiler for Linux - which one are you using? | | Um, g77 comes to mind, although I suppose that GNU prefer to call | g77 a free compiler rather than an open source compiler. Although I have not used it, a friend that uses Sun workstations to analyze MRI data in protein structure research ported his code to g77. The calculation results he got were different from those on the Sun. Sun's FORTRAN compiler comes with (or at least has passed tests with) a proper validation suite. No such suite seems to exist for g77. So, he was forced to continue with the Sun compiler. There are some settings for g77 that may have influenced this. However, determining which g77 settings allow conformity with Sun's FORTRAN compiler was not an obvious task. This was 2-3 years ago and g77 has changed since then. Maybe this is no longer an issue. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
Here is part of the response to the worm at my place. I guess they think that everyone is going to do this. What a joke. Email from IS: === As a follow up to previous communication, Internet access cannot be restored until we have installed a patch to the Microsoft Internet Explorer browser on EVERY PC campus wide, and ALL PC's have been rebooted. As a result of the Nimda infestation, I.S. has been tasked with visiting all affected workstations to complete the update noted above. Please excuse the temporary interruption of work while we complete this process. We also need your help to complete this effort. Here's how you can help us. A.) Double-click the attachment at the bottom of this message, then follow the prompts to install the patch (you may get a message that the patch is not necessary - this is OK) B.) After running the attached program successfully, please shut down and restart your computer. C.) If at any time a virus is detected, or if you have any questions concerning this activity, please call the Help Desk at Regardless of the outcome of the patch installation, please send a reply message of YES or NO to to confirm your workstation has been successfully updated or not. Thank you, ITSS, Director == There are hundreds if not thousands of PC in our network. We started out with a couple of guys in IS about 12 years ago who knew a few things about windows. Now this. At least this supplies work for people. Of course, I've sent pointed email to the IS people about their choice of software. I doubt much will change. The bad thing is, due to this problem, I bet the IS people had to miss the required talks on The Nine Pillars of Excellence that HR made everyone attend today. Now they won't know about achieving excellence. This is what happens to an organization that just grows way beyond the competence of its managers. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Scanner problem
I have installed an Agfa SnapScan 600 scanner via a Tecmar SCSI card. The scanner is hooked up correctly (termination is correct). The scanner shows up and, scanimage will list it when asked to list devices. However, when I try to scan, the scan bar (or whatever it is called) in the scanner will move some 20% of the way and then stop. In xscanimage, if I am doing a preview, I will see as much as the bar moved to. I can then scan no more nor start another scan. I have followed the steps in the SxS. The scanner is all that is connected to the SCSI card. I do not see any messages in the system log file. Aside from suggesting that the scanner is broken, any suggestions? -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
of, internet services. Yes, the limitations on government can make it more difficult for federal, state, and local authorities - but that was knowingly the intent of the Framers. With reason. The Framers didn't have to worry about Islamic madmen in jets flying into high rise buildings. The Framers didn't anticipate nuclear weapons. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Web-based Calendaring
If you are going to make a move, look at setting up ZOPE. It is a great web CMS. In fact, it runs on NT as well, so a move to Unix/Linux is not an absolute requirement. Just don't tell anyone. There is now an O'Rielly book on ZOPE. I don't have it yet, but hope to soon. ZOPE has literally hundreds of components available. For an example of something you could easily put on your site that is a ZOPE component, look at http://www.squishdot.org Check out http://www.zope.org (My only complaint against ZOPE is that it is not written in Tcl...) -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KDE2 - removing applet from kicker
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:16:51 -0500 John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | KDE 2.1.2 | | Adding an applet to the kicker (taskbar) is simple enough, but is | anyone able to clue me how to remove an applet from same? Some applets allow this via the right mouse button menu. Otherwise, the only way I found was to edit $HOME/.kde(2?)/share/config/kickerrc looking for the Applet_x entries While on the topic, anyone see a kticker-like thing for WIN32? The only things I have seen are like from BBC where the only place it will get info is BBC. I want one like the KDE one that can look wherever. I found references to one at IBM, but I don't seem to find the actual thing. Also, lots of these are intended for inclusion in a web page, which is not what I want. What I want is an easy way for parents to track discussions on a school web site. It works fine if they are running KDE, but, as we can't get agreement on food at school, OS conversion would be a bit optimistic. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:29:35 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Joel You have not or will you or anyone else for that matter loose anyrights privileges. That is unless you screw up. I think you are talking about the war on Terrorism, I know you will correct me if I am wrong here g, But every body gets into this act, one way or another. All I can say to you others GET A GRIPE. Must respectfully disagree. The history of every crisis point in U.S. (or other nations) history contains a list of either blanket usurpations of power, or of temporary limitations which have become permanent impositions against a large number of the points addressed specifically in both the Constitution and the Amendments thereto. It has been proposed that the government be given a backdoor into *all* encryption codes. These are the guys that couldn't find Ames for 15 years. What would happen if terrorists bought all the world's encryption keys from a crooked government employee? Being unified against a very real threat doesn't mean that we should allow the government to commit stupid actions without protesting. -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:17:45 -0400 Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | One thing that needs to be mentioned is that a large number of IT companies | make money because MS is so insecure. Like I said, MS is a jobs program. Linux better be careful. It may get a reputation as a jobs eliminator :-) Of course, if the companies paid the same people the same wages as they do now, and they instead spent their time making OpenSource code instead of fixing stupid problems, there would be no threat to job security. Just better solutions. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:45:23 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | In a way it's the noise ones with two x chromosomes that cause part of the problem. |A lot of | conservative Muslims are outraged by women in the military. In most Muslim countries |they | aren't even allowed to drive cars. But, in Saudi Arabia the American military has |sent along | quit a few female soldiers. Can't do anything less. To discriminate against them and |leave them | state side would be unconstitutional. Unfortunately, most Muslims in foreign |countries could | give a fig about the US Constitution and it's rights. And the GI women in Saudi Arabia really created a stir! They were let jog in shorts in the center of town, where they stayed. And they were seen to be driving cars. The morality police (not a part of the government) went crazy. They could do nothing to these women. But, after the army left, they were a bit more hostile towards western women who they felt were not being modest enough. And the women started demanding that they be able to drive. There were rumors and denials in the papers. Ultimately, nothing happened. But, I don't think the women know whow this works in their favor as well (low seriousness factor here - but not wrong either). They instead have drivers who deal with the really terrible Riyadh traffic and parking problems. Husbands have to take the wife grocery shopping. I have never seen so many families shopping together as in Saudi Arabia. The father has to take the kids here and there. Just think how your life would be if your wife did not drive and you had to do this? This really does not make life easier for the men. They really should wise up. Even the question about how women must dress is I think looked at too narrowly. Ever see how an Arab man dresses? He is totally covered from head to foot. They all wear the same white dress and picnic tablecloth head covering. No variety at all. They wear this at all times in and out of the house. The women can dress as they like at home. Only when they go out do they need to cover up. The women all in black and the men all in white. Not too much difference. I don't agree with all this, but at least recognize that the men also have many additional restrictions because of this. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CNN poll
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:25:01 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Thursday 20 September 2001 08:35, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: | | CNN (http://www.cnn.com) is currently running a poll on their front | | page concerning whether you'd be willing to let the government | | control more of your life in exchange for a sense of security... | | Everyone please go register your opinion so the lawmakers can know | | your true feelings about having your privacy and crypto and civil | | liberties taken away | | despite what they think, cnn is not the government. But, hey, even Tom Clancey writes that the CIA/FBI and government get lots of info from CNN that they did not pick up themselves. Let those crazy cameramen go to the scene and risk whatever. Of course, all his work is fiction. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
One of the first cries raised after the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City was for more gun limits to prevent acts of terrorism in the U.S. Totally unrelated, but perpetrated and accepted in the interests of security. The RICO Act - confiscation of property without trial or conviction, done in the name of security and the War on Drugs. The list goes on. There's already talk of more limitations on, and snooping of, internet services. Yes, the limitations on government can make it more difficult for federal, state, and local authorities - but that was knowingly the intent of the Framers. With reason. I must disagree. You forget the German hysteria during WWI. My grandfather had to change his name or lose his job. Landecker was too German. Landley was acceptable. The German press in this country, the second largest after English, was basically put out of business. It abated after the war. During WWII, the Japanese Americans on the West Coast were put into concentration camps after being forced to sell their property at bargain prices. But, they were let back out after the war. BTW, FDR insisted on this action. I believe J. Edgar Hoover said it wasn't necessary. So, war time controls are eased after the war. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:12:00 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Regarding the response of our IS professionals. They did block all access to | the internet yesterday and today I still can't browse. I guess they think we | all use the Explorer. | I spoke to our lab IS professional today. He wasn't aware of the problem. | He seemed vaguely interested that the Explorer might become infected but he | just gave me a vacuous smile when I suggested that he switch to netscape. | It is beyond belief. Remember, if everything worked, you would need fewer people like him. And I suspect he knows it. Face it. Microsoft is a jobs program in disguise. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Caldera RPM Putting!
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Where would I place Caldera RPMs? I try to anonymous ftp to ftp.caldera.com but am unable (permission denied) to write any files there. Anywhere? I have Snort (and associated libpcap), althea, gtknw, ncpfs, and sylpheed on this machine, and much more on others, but I have nowhere to put them to make them available to the public. One alternative might be www.rpmfind.net, look for Uploading to Rufus. Though the site seems to be RedHat specific, I've noticed that when searching for rpms I'll find rpms for other distributions. I believe he uses rpm2html to build his reference pages and indexes. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Web-based Calendaring
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:49:20 -0400 Tim Wunder wrote: I'm looking for a good web-based calendar for my Fathers' Club web site. The intent is to have a calendar with a nice GUI front end for end users to access, but a simple backend file format conducive to automatic frequent updating (mySQL? PostgreSQL?). I'd like to be able to give multiple users the ability to update the calendar easily. If it works out, it may be something we can port to the school's web site. Any suggestions? Is there a standard somewhere that I can reference? BTW, for those of you who followed my previous post pertaining to the club's web site, I had a nice talk with the web designer and he's open to ideas and changes to make it better. He has decided to get rid of the javascript buttons, at least. He's talking about implementing Shockwave, though ;-(. I recall that there is at least one sourceforge project like that on freshmeat. There are also 2 perl modules in cpan for creating web calendars, mine and a guy I used to work with - entirely coincidental... -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: locate wierdness
On Thursday 20 September 2001 08:04 pm,Mike Andrew wrote: On Friday 14 September 2001 00:43, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi all! I'm having increasingly annoying issues with SuSE 7.2. I have two [snip] may not be SuSe. kernel 2.4.3 exhibits this behaviour. Hi Mike: we fixed this: it was a cron process that updated the files directory when I had the other partition mounted. Re-ran the cron process and all was cleaned up. Where ya been?? Thanks for your nice note re: support for civilization. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Administrivia: we're losing members due to off-topic posts
Look everyone.. while the events in America in the past 10 days have been tragic, the discussions on this list have GOT to be put back on topic. We've lost more than a couple of members lately due to comments like the weather forecast for Kabul and Middle-east aliens I'm going to have to ask everyone to drop this kind of discussion from the list. I understand that emotions run high in times like these. I also realize that for some, this is the only place they feel comfortable in voicing their opinions. Personally, I value some of the insight, and experience of the list members. As such, I've created a new list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please feel free to visit http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/general to sign up for it. I will give everyone the remainder of today to move their threads to the new list. Please note that I am NOT saying that off-topic discussion is not going to be allowed on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I'm only saying that for threads that are getting way off-topic they should be moved from there to the new list As such, I hereby declare that all WTC, terrorist, US retaliation, WWII and any other of the current off-topic threads be moved to the new list or ceased within 24 hours. I understand that this is a difficult time for most and I personally have found a lot of sollace (sp?) in the views and opinions on this list. However, as list admin, I feel I have to do what's best for the list. I hope you all understand. Thank you. -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://linux.nf The truth is out th- oh, wait, here it is... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
On Thursday 20 September 2001 17:29, you wrote: Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Joel You have not or will you or anyone else for that matter loose anyrights privileges. [snipt] Must respectfully disagree. The history of every crisis point in U.S. (or other nations) history contains a list of either blanket usurpations of power, or of temporary limitations which have become permanent impositions against a large number of the points addressed specifically in both the Constitution and the Amendments thereto. [snipt] The list goes on. There's already talk of more limitations on, and snooping of, internet services. Yes, the limitations on government can make it more difficult for federal, state, and local authorities - but that was knowingly the intent of the Framers. With reason. Rickf Well said. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance by the citizenry. Some have priorities which supersede such vigilance, I fear. Tom W. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Administrivia: we're losing members due to off-topic posts
On Friday 21 September 2001 8:05 am, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: Personally, I value some of the insight, and experience of the list members. As such, I've created a new list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please feel free to visit http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/general to sign up for it. I will give everyone the remainder of today to move their threads to the new list. No response to 'subscribe' after entering all information requested. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/21/01 09:08 + ++ You might be a high-tech Red-neck if: you see a good design and still have to change it ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
apache help anyone (yes, again)
Does anyone know of a nice, clean, simple way to have Apache configured such that if a user (say in Germany) loads up a website that is in the US, the server recognizes where they are and redirects them SEAMLESSLY to the German mirror of that site? The catch is that not all of the mirrors are hosted on machines where the Apache configuration can be modified. So all the brains in this scheme must be located on the one machine. I've looked at mod_backhand, but it needs to be able to communicate with the other machines (requiring mod_backhand to be installed on them) and that is simply not an option here. Thanks! -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://linux.nf The truth is out th- oh, wait, here it is... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: apache help anyone (yes, again)
Quoting DOUGLAS HUNLEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone know of a nice, clean, simple way to have Apache configured such that if a user (say in Germany) loads up a website that is in the US, the server recognizes where they are and redirects them SEAMLESSLY to the German mirror of that site? The catch is that not all of the mirrors are hosted on machines where the Apache configuration can be modified. So all the brains in this scheme must be located on the one machine. I've looked at mod_backhand, but it needs to be able to communicate with the other machines (requiring mod_backhand to be installed on them) and that is simply not an option here. Guessing... mod_rewrite? -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
On Friday 21 September 2001 3:22 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: And, I must also ask, what freedoms are lost now? CNN (don't ya just love 'em) have asked the question, and the people they asked have said that if that is what it takes, then maybe it will be that way. But this is NOT the same thing as it actually having happened. I just heard on the radio that the FAA has now restricted flying within *3* miles of any outdoor sporting event or assembledge of people.. This would include a high school football game. They didn't mention any altitude with this. This to me would essentially ban all flight. There's no way to let pilots know where these 'restricted areas' are or to easily avoid them even if the pilot did. A real overreaction in my opinion. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/21/01 08:49 + ++ Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Scanner problem
On Friday 21 September 2001 3:59 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I have installed an Agfa SnapScan 600 scanner via a Tecmar SCSI card. The scanner is hooked up correctly (termination is correct). The scanner shows up and, scanimage will list it when asked to list devices. However, when I try to scan, the scan bar (or whatever it is called) in the scanner will move some 20% of the way and then stop. In xscanimage, if I am doing a preview, I will see as much as the bar moved to. I can then scan no more nor start another scan. I have followed the steps in the SxS. The scanner is all that is connected to the SCSI card. I do not see any messages in the system log file. Aside from suggesting that the scanner is broken, any suggestions? Sounds like it could be a SCSI problem...do you find any msgs in /vr/log/messages indicating any kind of I/O problem? Here's something you can try to get it back online: #!/bin/sh echo scsi add-single-device c 0 id 0 /proc/scsi/scsi where 'c' above should be replaced with the controller number (probably 0 in your case) and the 'id' should be replaced with the id of the scanner on that controller (0-7) So if your scanner is at ID 2 it would be: echo scsi add-single-device 0 0 2 0 /proc/scsi/scsi But having to use the above means there was most likely some type of error. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/21/01 08:57 + ++ People who feel well are sick people neglecting themselves. - Jules Romains ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CNN poll
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 01:24:17PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: Please note that the following is my opinion. I've heard plenty of people complain about the loss of certain 'liberties and freedoms' recently. Whether this is concerning the tightened security at airports, AOL and Earthlink cooperating with the federal investigation, or other related matters. Ladies and gentlemen, we are at war(whether you like it or not). The enemy still has troops at large on American soil. Where they could strike next is anybody's guess. This war is like no other war that Americans have ever fought. That is why some of us suggest that we not call it a war. If I say, Here is a horse. This horse is like no other horse you have ever seen. You might ask, If it is not like a horse, why call it a horse? This is and should be a police action. Perhaps it is a very large police action. But, wars are between nations. Wars are fought over territory. There is no other nation here, unless you want to bomb a few helpless Afganies (sp?), and make them even more miserable than they already are. And there is no territory. God help us if we want Afganistan. Our political leaders are calling it a war for the same reason you are calling it a war. They believe that they can stir up more emotions and support by doing so. If I was George W or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or the head of the FBI, I would, too. Trying to promote a war would certainly be more pleasant than admitting that I had failed miserably to protect the security of our nation at the cost of thousands of lives and billions of dollars. We are used to wars being on other people's soil and the loss of lives being from our military. Americans have been spoiled lately by the unprecedented liberties and freedoms that we have enjoyed in recent years. This will be a time for us as Americans to sacrifice some of these freedoms and liberties in the name of security. Freedom doesn't come without a price. America is a unique country in that these freedoms and liberties can and will be reinstated once the enemy is defeated. The War on Drugs is also like no other war we have ever known. They have taken away some of my freedoms to fight that war. I don't notice that they have given those freedoms back. Could you tell me when I might expect the return of those freedoms? Perhaps when people stop taking drugs? There will not be an end to end to people's desire to take drugs. And, there will not be an end to terrorism. So I think you should be a bit more honest here and admit that you are proposing the loss of these freedoms for an indefinitely long period of time. I took an oath to 'protect and defend the US' and served in the US Air Force for four years. I gave up some of my liberties and freedoms so that my fellow Americans can enjoy being secure. Once again, I'm called upon as an American citizen to make some sacrifices to ensure the security of my fellow Americans. I'll gladly make these sacrifices to make sure that you are secure in your work place, your home, on your streets, in your skies, and in your favorite restaurant. This will not be a permanant loss of freedoms and liberties, but only until the enemy is defeated and we as American citizens can feel secure once again. The alternative is almost frightening. I don't want America to become a battleground where the enemy can strike at anytime, anywhere and without warning. For the freedoms that we will enjoy in the future, I'm willing to pay the price needed and make those sacrifices now. We certainly need to change the way we do airport security. We certainly need to pursue and punish those who did this horrible act. And, we should be trying to organize and encourage the co-operation of other nations in preventing terrorism. We do not need to attack a foreign sovereign nation. (That's what a war is.) And we do not need to bomb Afganistan back to the stone-age. (They are already there in too many respects.) This _will_ require sacrifices. But, let's use more intelligence and less emotion in deciding what to sacrifice and what to do, so that we do some good and so that we are effective. I say, let's put some muscle and brains where they will do some good. - Dave Jim On Thursday September 20, 2001 7:35 am, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: CNN (http://www.cnn.com) is currently running a poll on their front page concerning whether you'd be willing to let the government control more of your life in exchange for a sense of security... Everyone please go register your opinion so the lawmakers can know your true feelings about having your privacy and crypto and civil liberties taken away -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://linux.nf -- 12:42pm up 20 days, 19:42, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.13, 0.10 Running
Re: locate wierdness
Mike: This reply bounced off linux.nf so I'm trying again. On Thursday 20 September 2001 08:04 pm,Mike Andrew wrote: On Friday 14 September 2001 00:43, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi all! I'm having increasingly annoying issues with SuSE 7.2. I have two [snip] may not be SuSe. kernel 2.4.3 exhibits this behaviour. Hi Mike: we fixed this: it was a cron process that updated the files directory when I had the other partition mounted. Re-ran the cron process and all was cleaned up. Where ya been?? Thanks for your nice note re: support for civilization. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Scanner problem
I will try this. It is at home, so it will have to wait a bit. I am also going to try a new cable. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: nimda worm
Of course it is a problem but I closed IE before it could dl the file. I did let konquerer download the file, figured since it was linux it would be pretty much immune to it.. how ever the Java must be the culprit, allowing it to write to any writeable shares and aross open network connections(SAMBA for instance). I, cleaned before using LookOut so as to not infect the users on my address book.. This worm seems to ahve been well planned in that it propigates itself in almost every way imagineable.. On Thursday 20 September 2001 18:44, you wrote: I went to one of those sites with netscape. I downloaded one file (readme). Once, I got a TESTING message on my browser. Nothing else. Don't you think that using IE was the problem? Joel On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 06:15:48PM -0500, Bill Day wrote: Its not your fault, Im nosy 8) I did let it dl the .eml file but as to how I got all those and such was wierd.. They even migrated to samba shares(and winboxes) somehow. I visited one page (206.230.156.209) with I.E. and closed all open window imdeiately then trie dwith konquerer figured Id be safe. however i found (400 not 4000) on my linuxbox and exactly 198 on each winbox that was up at the time. both had infected load.exe in windows/system/ and then a *.eml in every folder on the box... truly wierd.. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Bill Day A.K.A. BadMan RLU#188133 RLM#83358 http://counter.li.org irc.openprojects.net #linux-users Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a new spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... --- 8:30am up 50 days, 22:45, 23 users, load average: 0.15, 0.18, 0.16 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Webcal help
Hi, I've installed webcal on my redhat server at work, but I'm having trouble with configuring calendars due to password authentication issues. The webcal readme states to have the following: Directory /opt/httpd/cgi-bin/webcal AllowOverride AuthConfig Options ExecCGI /Directory in the httpd.conf file. I have that, except using /var/www/cgi-bin/webcal as the directory since that is where the webcal cgi scripts are installed. The webcal readme states A lot of people have had password problems at first, but every one has turned out to be an error in configuration on their webserver! So I must be doing something wrong. There was another Directory section in my httpd.conf file, Directory /var/www/cgi-bin AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory that I changed to Directory /var/www/cgi-bin AllowOverride AuthConfig Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory but that made no difference. I'm a newbie with config opptions in Apache, so I'm at a loss for figerring out what the problem is. An clueful folks care to enlighten me? Regards, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Webcal help
What happens? Are you prompted for a password? Are you NOT prompted for a password? Is the password not accepted? ??? Where I use passwords with Apache, I use the .htaccess method in the directory of interest. The .htaccess file contains lines like: AuthName Text to put in password heading AuthType Basic AuthUserFile xxx/users require user name1 name2 etc The AuthUserFile file is in /usr/local/apache (if apache is installed there). So, the file containing my passwords in this example would be /usr/local/apache/xxx/users The passwords in this file are maintained by the htpasswd command. The 'require' directive just lists which users you will let in. In the Apache config file, you need these entries: AccessFileName .htaccess Files ~ ^\.ht Order allow,deny Deny from all /Files They may already be there but commented out. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: apache help anyone (yes, again)
On Friday 21 September 2001 09:57, Roger Oberholtzer babbled: On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:03:50 -0600 (CST) Ian Marchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | mod_rewrite? I would think so as well. There are examples of using this for load balancing on the apache site. So a search on mod_rewrite. I looked at mod_rewrite briefly yesterday.. I'll check again. -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the SOHO/home user ~~ It's not that life is so short, it's that you're dead for so _long_. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Administrivia: we're losing members due to off-topic posts
On Friday 21 September 2001 09:08, Bruce Marshall babbled: On Friday 21 September 2001 8:05 am, DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: Personally, I value some of the insight, and experience of the list members. As such, I've created a new list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please feel free to visit http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/general to sign up for it. I will give everyone the remainder of today to move their threads to the new list. No response to 'subscribe' after entering all information requested. you and 4 other people are subbed already. the 'welcome' might be stuck... mail is backlogged right now.. -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the SOHO/home user ~~ `I am so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.' ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: apache help anyone (yes, again)
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:25:03 -0400 Douglas J. Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Friday 21 September 2001 09:57, Roger Oberholtzer babbled: | On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:03:50 -0600 (CST) | | Ian Marchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | mod_rewrite? | | I would think so as well. There are examples of using this for load | balancing on the apache site. So a search on mod_rewrite. | | I looked at mod_rewrite briefly yesterday.. I'll check again. I am currently fighting with mod_rewrite on a site that virtual hosts a ZOPE setup. It is a tricky module. I keep getting things appended to my rewrites that I don't want there. The syntax is not very obvious. I think it is one of those tools that is so powerful it becomes almost unusable. So, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. But I make no promises. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, you wrote: Snip The Framers didn't have to worry about Islamic madmen in jets flying into high rise buildings. The Framers didn't anticipate nuclear weapons. Joel Every time some zealot wishes to protect us from some threat , be it Nazis,Japanese, communists, KKK Kluckers crime ect, the first call that goes iut is to either give the government more power or to limit the rights of the people.. The excuse given is always , the framers of the Constitution couldn't have envisioned such a threat. Bull Pucky! The framers didn't have to envision all furuer threats to us. They realized that the rights of the people are timeless and that any threat was transitory. The permanet threat is the willingness to give up those rights for fear of the threat of the moment. Do that and the Muslim fanitacs have won. Benjamin franklin put it wishly, Those who would give up Liberty for security deserve neither Liberty or security. The plain truth is that the same government that is so blithly asking us to hand over our rights and the airline industry bear a large measure of responsibility in the WTC disaster. After it became fashionable to high jack airliners federal marshals were put on planes and airport security was increased. After flight 103 airport security was really beefed up. What happened? Simple the airlines didn't like paying their part of the cost of security and government dropped the sky marshal program to save a few bucks. Do you really think that a bunch of towel heads armed with knives or bomb threats could have overcome a well armed and trained sky marshal? Airport security followed the same sad fate as the sky marshal program. Instead of hiring intelligent movitivate personnel the program became nothing more than a political correct hiring program to giving well paying jobs to people based on their inability to get another job. Yet, with this sad history of government failure and greed there are those who in the name of security propose to hand over the rights, that generations of Americans have shed their blood to protect, to the same government that set us up for WTC. Personally, I'll throw my lot in with Ben Franklin. Lee ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Webcal help
On Friday 21 September 2001 11:15, Tim Wunder wrote: Hi Roger, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: What happens? Are you prompted for a password? Are you NOT prompted for a password? Is the password not accepted? When attempting to login to the admin account, I get promted for a username/password. I enter admin/admin (default password for admin is admin, according to the docs I have), and I get an authorization failed dialog clip I execute, locate .htaccess and get /var/www/cgi-bin/webcal/protected/.htaccess Cat /var/www/cgi-bin/webcal/protected/.htaccess shows AuthUserFile /var/webcal/.htpasswd AuthName WebCal AuthType Basic require valid-user /var/webcal/.htpasswd shows entries for nobody, admin, usholiday, tpw, Temporary clip Sounds like the password may be wrong between the docs and the .htpasswd file? Make sure .htpasswd is readable by all users, esp. if httpd is not running with root permissions. Try this From the command line: htpasswd /var/webcal/.htpasswd admin and set the password for the user admin. If you get 'htpasswd not found' error, then prefix the command with your Apache/bin directory, ie if Apache/bin is located at /usr/local/apache: /usr/local/apache/bin/htpasswd /var/webcal/.htpasswd admin My htpasswd is in /usr/bin on my Caldera distro, /usr/lib/apache/bin on my SCO distro. -- The Universal Joint - Connecting Unix, Linux, and that other OS Operated by Linux user #201684 11:26am up 13 days, 20:37, 5 users, load average: 1.36, 1.31, 1.47 ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
Amen - Richard Lee wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, you wrote: Snip The Framers didn't have to worry about Islamic madmen in jets flying into high rise buildings. The Framers didn't anticipate nuclear weapons. Joel Every time some zealot wishes to protect us from some threat , be it Nazis,Japanese, communists, KKK Kluckers crime ect, the first call that goes iut is to either give the government more power or to limit the rights of the people.. The excuse given is always , the framers of the Constitution couldn't have envisioned such a threat. Bull Pucky! The framers didn't have to envision all furuer threats to us. They realized that the rights of the people are timeless and that any threat was transitory. The permanet threat is the willingness to give up those rights for fear of the threat of the moment. Do that and the Muslim fanitacs have won. Benjamin franklin put it wishly, Those who would give up Liberty for security deserve neither Liberty or security. The plain truth is that the same government that is so blithly asking us to hand over our rights and the airline industry bear a large measure of responsibility in the WTC disaster. After it became fashionable to high jack airliners federal marshals were put on planes and airport security was increased. After flight 103 airport security was really beefed up. What happened? Simple the airlines didn't like paying their part of the cost of security and government dropped the sky marshal program to save a few bucks. Do you really think that a bunch of towel heads armed with knives or bomb threats could have overcome a well armed and trained sky marshal? Airport security followed the same sad fate as the sky marshal program. Instead of hiring intelligent movitivate personnel the program became nothing more than a political correct hiring program to giving well paying jobs to people based on their inability to get another job. Yet, with this sad history of government failure and greed there are those who in the name of security propose to hand over the rights, that generations of Americans have shed their blood to protect, to the same government that set us up for WTC. Personally, I'll throw my lot in with Ben Franklin. Lee ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Richard Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] How many M$ software engineers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? None, the darkness is actually an undocumented security feature. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Webcal help
John Hiemenz wrote: On Friday 21 September 2001 11:15, Tim Wunder wrote: snip clip I execute, locate .htaccess and get /var/www/cgi-bin/webcal/protected/.htaccess Cat /var/www/cgi-bin/webcal/protected/.htaccess shows AuthUserFile /var/webcal/.htpasswd AuthName WebCal AuthType Basic require valid-user /var/webcal/.htpasswd shows entries for nobody, admin, usholiday, tpw, Temporary clip Sounds like the password may be wrong between the docs and the .htpasswd file? Make sure .htpasswd is readable by all users, esp. if httpd is not running with root permissions. Try this From the command line: htpasswd /var/webcal/.htpasswd admin and set the password for the user admin. Did that, no difference. If you get 'htpasswd not found' error, then prefix the command with your Apache/bin directory, ie if Apache/bin is located at /usr/local/apache: /usr/local/apache/bin/htpasswd /var/webcal/.htpasswd admin My htpasswd is in /usr/bin on my Caldera distro, /usr/lib/apache/bin on my SCO distro. I changed permissions on the .htpasswd file in /var/webcal directory to -rw-r--r--. It was owned by apache with group root. I changed its group to apache, still no difference. I stopped and started httpd after each change and reloaded the page in the browser. Any other ideas? Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Scanner problem
On Friday 21 September 2001 19:29, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I have installed an Agfa SnapScan 600 scanner via a Tecmar SCSI card. [snip] I assume you're using that godawful excuse for a program called Sane? Which version? Check to see that it really is thinking it's driving this agfa scanner. Best way is to remove ALL driver config files except the one you really want, from the /etc/inSane directory (and modify the conf file appropriately). I don't recall the syntax but you can turn on debug messages by setting them as environ variables along the lines of SANE_DEBUG_AGFA 1|2|4|8|16|32 (Don't quote me, the man page sometimes lists them if the programmer can be bothered with these small niceties) The other error you could be experiencing is that you've, alternatively, set the scan dpi too high, and / or, have run out of memory to store the image (both equate to the same thing). PS I don't have such an animal, just bitter and twisted experiences with this ridiculous program. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
web-calendars
I haven't really followed the current thread, but does anyonehave opinion on CyberCalendar (http://freshmeat.net/projects/cybercalendar/)? -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the SOHO/home user ~~ I'd change the world, but God won't give me the source code... ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
On Friday 21 September 2001 06:52, you wrote: [snip] I just heard on the radio that the FAA has now restricted flying within *3* miles of any outdoor sporting event or assembledge of people.. This would include a high school football game. They didn't mention any altitude with this. This to me would essentially ban all flight. There's no way to let pilots know where these 'restricted areas' are or to easily avoid them even if the pilot did. A real overreaction in my opinion. Right you are. Someone obviously did not think this through. -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
Personally I think you are just full of it. You have not given up any right what so ever. Some restrictions are required for all of iur own safety. We have it better here than any where else on this planet and that will always be true. Get your self a US flag start waving it, you will feel much better. cheers my friends -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
MOVE THIS THREAD (was Re: I am afraid...)
On Friday 21 September 2001 14:22, Rick Sivernell babbled: Personally I think you are just full of it. You have not given up any right what so ever. Some restrictions are required for all of iur own safety. We have it better here than any where else on this planet and that will always be true. Get your self a US flag start waving it, you will feel much better. cheers my friends all right guys, either move this thread to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or end it please. thanks! -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the SOHO/home user ~~ printk(??? No FDIV bug? Lucky you...\n); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/bugs.h ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: [linux-elitists] class-action fun
thoughts? -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [linux-elitists] class-action fun Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:55:04 -0500 From: Rick Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IANAL I've been bouncing this idea off people in my local LUG-land and it's generated some interest. Basically it's an idea about a class for a class-action suit and the basis for a negligence claim: Form a class of people who: A - use Microsoft products and lost data or incurred downtime due to infections from CR*/Nimda or B - do not use Microsoft products but incurred downtime or lost data due to CR*/Nimda Sue Microsoft for negligence. But they issued patches for these exploits, you say. Yes, but they kept selling freshly pressed OS CD's that were still defective. I.e., they refused to recall and re-press product that they acknowledged (presumably this is where the lawyer would argue about reasonable consumers or some such) through patches and advisories was defective. This is akin to Ford recalling Explorers, providing replacement tires to anyone who wants them, but putting Firestones on anything that leaves the showroom. Sounds like negligence to me (...hence the IANAL bracketing of the whole message since I'm pretty much a moron). Issues that immediately come to mind: - The shrink-wrap license on Windows is a get-out-of-jail free card. - a class A suit would be testing the validity of shrink-wrap licenses - a class B suit would completely dodge the shrink-wrap issue since they never agreed to the license terms - this split would mean that a sickeningly vicious and dirty set of class-action attorneys would have to argue the case (forgive me for being redundant) - Such a suit would affect any software manufacturer selling shrink-wrap software. - Yes, but only the negligent ones (sorry, and I write software for a living so I should know better) - or: Yes, but should manufacturers of software be exempted from pulling boxes off the shelves when auto makers, meat packers, and toy manufacturers have to issue costly recalls? - Network-installed OS's don't have a recall issue. This still leaves RedHat et al out to dry, but future shrink-wrapped installs could go get updates upon installation. The attractiveness of a class suit against RH (e.g.) over current and past actions is much lower than that of an MS suit (one advantage to riding the rocky road this far I suppose). - One could argue that the analogy between Firestones and Windows is faulty since Windows doesn't kill people (well, so long as they're not on a WinNT battleship or on Windows-based life support or ...). - I would be surprised if it couldn't be successfully argued that a product is defective even though noone dies from its use. - Is this or is it not a good precedent to set? - Well, is it? - Another possible criterion for class membership would be expense incurred due to bandwidth costs on bill/traffic lines - I've already encountered a few people who are in such situations and have logs showing massive Nimda and Code Red traffic - one guy has 55,000 logged Nimda hits on one of his colo'd servers, and I believe that's unique combined hits (i.e., at ~16 requests per hit), easy enough to verify). /IANAL Thoughts? Rick -- Mostly useless pseudo-random number: 839 Rick Bradley - http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (94 F) ___ linux-elitists http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists --- -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the SOHO/home user ~~ You don't get to be mom if you can't fix everything just right. -Calvin ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Announce: chkrootkit 0.34
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Announce: chkrootkit 0.34 Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:24:15 -0300 From: Klaus Steding-Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] chkrootkit 0.34 is now available! This version includes: * new tests added: hdparm and inetdconf (thanks to Yaroslav Polyakov); * Ducoci rootkit and x.c Worm detection; * check_wtmpx (thanks to scz); * `-q' (quiet) option; * some bug fixes. chkrootkit is a tool to locally check for signs of a rootkit. More information about chkrootkit and rootkits can be found at http://www.chkrootkit.org/. The package was successfully tested on the following systems: Linux 2.0.x and 2.2.x (any distribution), FreeBSD 2.2.x, 3.x and 4.x, OpenBSD 2.6, 2.7, 2.8 and 2.9, Solaris 2.5.1, 2.6 and 8.0. chkrootkit's tarball and its MD5 checksum are available at: * ftp://ftp.pangeia.com.br/pub/seg/pac/chkrootkit.tar.gz * ftp://ftp.pangeia.com.br/pub/seg/pac/chkrootkit.md5 or at the chkrootkit's homepage, at: * http://www.chkrootkit.org/ More info about rootkits can be found at: * http://www.chkrootkit.org/index.html#related_links Regards, Klaus. --- -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the SOHO/home user ~~ panic(Oh boy, that early out of memory?); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/mm/init.c ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I am afraid...
On Friday 21 September 2001 14:22 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote: Personally I think you are just full of it. You have not given up any right what so ever. Some restrictions are required for all of iur own safety. We have it better here than any where else on this planet and that will always be true. Get your self a US flag start waving it, you will feel much better. Ask a VFR pilot whether he has given up any rights... He can't fly at the present time. I'm sure there are more examples. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/21/01 17:31 + ++ Anagram: Semolina = Is No Meal ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: [linux-elitists] class-action fun
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 04:44:42PM -0400, Douglas J. Hunley wrote: ... Sue Microsoft for negligence. But they issued patches for these exploits, you say. Yes, but they kept selling freshly pressed OS CD's that were still defective. I.e., they refused to recall and re-press product that they acknowledged (presumably this is where the lawyer would argue about reasonable consumers or some such) through patches and advisories was defective. An excellent example to show that responsible vendors will pull a CD from circulation and replace it when a major security flaw is found was a release of SCO OpenServer several years ago. I was in the beta program for this release, and when I got my FCS (First Customer Ship) CDs I installed them on a local system. My first security checks showed a minor problem, ``/`, and all the system directories had 777 permissions (the default for Win9x)! I immediately sent an e-mail to several of the top people at SCO including Doug Michels, and they IMMEDIATELY recalled all the media kits they had shipped delaying the release several weeks. ... - one guy has 55,000 logged Nimda hits on one of his colo'd servers, and I believe that's unique combined hits (i.e., at ~16 requests per hit), easy enough to verify). That's easy to believe. Our router (a Linux box) was logging attempts to connect to unused subnets in the two class Cs we have here. I had to turn off logging these rejections in ipchains because our logs were growing 3.5MB about every fifteen minutes! Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a refund from the IRS, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Terminal Server ?
Previously, dragonsfireburns chose to write: Hi! is their a step by step to set up a server so that terminals can be used to access the software from the server? (not disk less terminal, I think their called X terminals). I want to be able to maybe click on an icon to access the server desktop, or maybe auto boot like the windoze startup. Thank you! (using 2 Linux boxes redhat/Debian and 2 windoze boxes. Running a basic network right now) ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Like this? http://www.ltsp.org/index.php ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bash profile problem
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:47:50 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:23, Collins Richey wrote: I have bash 2.04, and I can't find anyway to get the aliases in the profile to take effect for normal users. . If, however, I use su, ls is available immediately in color. Is this a bash bug, maybe? [snipetty hack] su uses the existing users environment and paths su - uses root's bash script Yes, but both sets of scripts are identical, namely both .bash_profile and .bashrc in both /home/collins and /root are #!/bin/bash -ls source /etc/profile The alias ... statements take effect only when I use su or login directly as root. -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: web-calendars
Previously, Douglas J. Hunley chose to write: I haven't really followed the current thread, but does anyonehave opinion on CyberCalendar (http://freshmeat.net/projects/cybercalendar/)? Based on my cursory examination of the website and the few example sites it listed and comparing those to the demo of WEbCal on the WebCal page, Webcal feels a little better -- IF I could only get the blasted thing to work on my RedHat box!!! Now that I'm home, I might try configging it on my home OpenLinux 3.1 system. CyberCalendar does expressly say that it supports the vCalendar standard. WebCal is supposed to be able to sync with a Palm, so I guess it supports vCalendar, too. It just doesn't say so. Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] A gentle request
On Friday 21 September 2001 15:24, you wrote: [snip] To whom that applies When replying to a mail please _DO_NOT CC to the person. As this person is on the list also you are just increasing bandwith usage for both sides. Since the only way you can send an email to any SuSE mailling Lists is only if the person is subscribed what is the benefit of CC'ing to the others who tried to provide an answer unless the original email sender has requested to be CC'ed. Here's the problem (mail-client-specific - in my case, Kmail): Like many of you, I subscribe to 2 Linux mail lists; the SuSE list and the generic list Doug hosts. If I want to reply to something on the linux-users list, I click the 'reply' icon. If I do the same thing on the SuSE list, the reply goes to the *author* and not the list, so then I must open the address book, find the address for the SuSE list, click on it, and then delete the author's address. Big deal! you say. But it is a royal PIA from where I sit. If I remember, (*if*) I can click the 'reply ALL' icon and then remember to delete the extra address. It would be great if they both worked the same way - but they don't. My 2 kopecks... Regards -- Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #135678 Powered by SuSE 7.2 Linux Professional ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Webserver config (permissions?)
Hi folks, I've managed to configure my home OpenLinux box as a webserver. I can connect to my box thru my freesco router using port 8192 (which gets forwarded to my 192.168.1.2:80 port -- to keep @home off my back) and can bring up the generic index.html page that comes with OpenLinux. The problem I'm having comes when I try to connect to my $home/public_html direcotry's main.htm page (added as a default page to the httpd.conf file). When I tried to connect to 24.249.182.134:8192/~dad from work, I got a permission error (cannot access 192.168.1.2 - or something like that -- I can't test it from home) The permissions on my public_html directory are drwxr-xr-x The permissions on my main.htm page in the public_html directory are (were) -rw-r--r-- My home directory is rwx--x--x Should the html pages have executable permission in order for the world to have access? I executed 'chmod +x' on the files and I can access the page from my son's PC @ 192.168.1.5, but I can't test it from the outside world. Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
A final word of thanks to the group
Not many of the linux groups out there allowed free reign to the members who needed to vent their anger and share their pain after the WTC event. Most became cold hearted at the first mention of the terrorist attacks in a posting. But linux users rose to the occasion. A hearty thanks to all who contributed andor enjoyed or hated it. As Mike Andrew put it, we or ALL Americans (or Canadians or Aussies or Kiwis or whatever) in an attack of this nature. To the newly departed from the list, I say good riddance and God speed! This is the best group on the planet. Thanks, -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] A gentle request
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:51:23 -0600 Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 21 September 2001 15:24, you wrote: [snip] To whom that applies When replying to a mail please _DO_NOT CC to the person. As this person is on the list also you are just increasing bandwith usage for both sides. Since the only way you can send an email to any SuSE mailling Lists is only if the person is subscribed what is the benefit of CC'ing to the others who tried to provide an answer unless the original email sender has requested to be CC'ed. Here's the problem (mail-client-specific - in my case, Kmail): Like many of you, I subscribe to 2 Linux mail lists; the SuSE list and the generic list Doug hosts. If I want to reply to something on the linux-users list, I click the 'reply' icon. If I do the same thing on the SuSE list, the reply goes to the *author* and not the list, so then I must open the address book, find the address for the SuSE list, click on it, and then delete the author's address. Big deal! you say. But it is a royal PIA from where I sit. If I remember, (*if*) I can click the 'reply ALL' icon and then remember to delete the extra address. It would be great if they both worked the same way - but they don't. My 2 kopecks... Reason #??? for using sylpheed. The reply button works as you would expect. My experiences with Kmail have typically been Excedrin Headache #???. -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Webserver config (permissions?)
Any normal web page or graphic whould be rw-r-r try 24.249.182.134:8192/~dad/ note the trailing slash On Friday 21 September 2001 19:03, Tim Wunder wrote: Hi folks, I've managed to configure my home OpenLinux box as a webserver. I can connect to my box thru my freesco router using port 8192 (which gets forwarded to my 192.168.1.2:80 port -- to keep @home off my back) and can bring up the generic index.html page that comes with OpenLinux. The problem I'm having comes when I try to connect to my $home/public_html direcotry's main.htm page (added as a default page to the httpd.conf file). When I tried to connect to 24.249.182.134:8192/~dad from work, I got a permission error (cannot access 192.168.1.2 - or something like that -- I can't test it from home) The permissions on my public_html directory are drwxr-xr-x The permissions on my main.htm page in the public_html directory are (were) -rw-r--r-- My home directory is rwx--x--x Should the html pages have executable permission in order for the world to have access? I executed 'chmod +x' on the files and I can access the page from my son's PC @ 192.168.1.5, but I can't test it from the outside world. Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Ronnie == Life can be a dream; or it can be a nightmare it's all in your mind ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
Well, internet access was down all day at work. Couldn't look up anything regarding medical literature for our specimen sign outs. Really a problem. My network server went down so no email, internal or external. Of course, I just telnet home and use my linux box for email, anyway. They stopped blocking port 23 after the first day. We did get a message to leave our computers on so IS can fix them all over the weekend. One of our friends has the same problem at her work. The main thing is that NO ONE WILL GET FIRED over this. After all, they were using MS software. What more could they have done? Here at my house on @HOME I have had 16885 hits by 729 unique ip's since this began. (This doesn't count the worm, which gave 377 hits over this same time.) No damage done, since I use apache and we don't browse with IE. Over on the samba list, some people have had trouble with their samba servers, since the windows clients sent the worm to all mounted shares. If anyone has trouble of that sort, they might look at samba.org, I believe. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] A gentle request
On Friday 21 September 2001 21:03 pm, Collins Richey wrote: While we're on real PITA's, what is the groups consensus about KDE's 'feechur' that anything selected with the cursor will be copied to the Klipboard? Is there a way to fix that? It works much differently than almost any other GUI interface I have ever used and I find myself swearing at it even though I'm trying to live with it. I've posted a gentle complaint to KDE.org a couple of times but have never gotten a reply, much less a good reason for it. Yet I've never heard a complaint from anyone else about it. Am I the only one that this bothers? ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/21/01 21:34 + ++ I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the President. -Hillary Clinton commenting on the release of subpoenaed documents ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: fighting the worm (enough of this already)
You allow telnet into your home box? That's a great way to get your system cracked. They don't seem to allow SSL from work, so I have no choice. I haven't been cracked because: 1. I have ways. 2. I am not worth cracking. I mean, what is there to steal? I thought @HOME had blocked all incoming port 80 traffic to their customers (their contracts say they shouldn't be running servers). That's what they say. I was very careful at first, but they don't seem to care. Virtually every hit I have taken from the last three worms has come from @HOME ip numbers (many hundreds of unique ip's), so they know there are a lot of servers on their network. I wrote a nasty letter to them a while back, pointing out this situation. They claimed they would become proactive, but nothing has changed. It would be trivial to change apache to listen to different ports. Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Webserver config (permissions?)
Hi Joel Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: Here are mind. I seem more permissive on /home/httpd drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 1024 Jul 8 2000 httpd drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 1024 Aug 25 22:55 html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 427 Aug 25 22:55 index.html I don't know anything about your router. Does it do IP masquerade? Yes. If not, you won't be able to access those 192 numbers, methinks. Use tcpdump to see what sort of traffic you have. Oh, I can get to my server allright. The reference to 192.168.1.2 in the error I got resulted from the ServerName line in my httpd.conf file. I was having fits last night trying to get 24.249.182.134 to work from here. The ServerName line was one of the things I changed. Then I remembered that the freesco router will not do port forwarding if the originating IP is from the internal network. Any http, or ftp, or any external service I provide on a port that gets forwarded from my router to my internal IP can only be tested from outside my network. Almost makes me want to install a modem just to dial out and test stuff... I changed my ServerName line back to 24.249.182.134 so errors should look like they come from there. I have been on @HOME for over a year, and run a web page just for fun. I have never heard a word from @HOME. They scan port 119 for news servers, but that is all. Now even with the worms (3) aimed at port 80 have they taken a single bit of action. With the advent of CodeRed and Nimda, I heard @Home was starting to crack down on services running on port 80. I'm not real concerned. Anyone who would have need to access my web server will certainly be knowledgable enough to add a :8192 to the end of the IP address. The permissions on my public_html directory are drwxr-xr-x The permissions on my main.htm page in the public_html directory are (were) -rw-r--r-- My home directory is rwx--x--x Should the html pages have executable permission in order for the world to have access? I executed 'chmod +x' on the files and I can access the page from my son's PC @ 192.168.1.5, but I can't test it from the outside world. Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] A gentle request
List A minth or so back I got a reply from one of the developers there and was informed that the way they have is the proper way to do such and Unix has always done it that way. In KDE 3 they may fix it so that you can choose the way it works. Not much of an answer, the way of copy to clip Board a mouse double click is wrong. If you have something already on cb double click mouse you stuff is now gone. Starting to really dislike kde, just way to bloated and I do not like the way code is done, it makes it too easy to miss something. Really finding out their make files are really made for qt kde, they cripple some parts of make. Too many programs do not operate the way I think they should, maybe bugs or unwanted features. I do not know. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] A gentle request
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 21:37:23 -0400 Bruce Marshall wrote: On Friday 21 September 2001 21:03 pm, Collins Richey wrote: While we're on real PITA's, what is the groups consensus about KDE's 'feechur' that anything selected with the cursor will be copied to the Klipboard? Is there a way to fix that? It works much differently than almost any other GUI interface I have ever used and I find myself swearing at it even though I'm trying to live with it. I've posted a gentle complaint to KDE.org a couple of times but have never gotten a reply, much less a good reason for it. Yet I've never heard a complaint from anyone else about it. Am I the only one that this bothers? I thought that was standard X-windows behavior, unless I'm missing something. I complain bitterly that I have to hit ctl-C to copy and ctl-V to paste in Windoze. What I would like is for KDE to use the same double/triple click behavior as Motif. Double-click sets the quantum for selection to word, triple-click sets it to line. If I double-click, I can select 1st word with MB1, then single click last word to select with MB3, paste with MB2. But KDE doesn't want to do that. Where it does, the definition of word gets changed too. Slash is no longer a word boundary. I now use rxvt instead of kterm, so I can get near-normal behavior. -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] A gentle request
Previously, Bruce Marshall chose to write: On Friday 21 September 2001 21:03 pm, Collins Richey wrote: While we're on real PITA's, what is the groups consensus about KDE's 'feechur' that anything selected with the cursor will be copied to the Klipboard? Is there a way to fix that? Not that I know of. I recall reading a thread about that on the kde newsgroup (or was it the mailing list...). It was deemed a feature. It works much differently than almost any other GUI interface I have ever used and I find myself swearing at it even though I'm trying to live with it. I've posted a gentle complaint to KDE.org a couple of times but have never gotten a reply, much less a good reason for it. Yet I've never heard a complaint from anyone else about it. Am I the only one that this bothers? It bothers me a little. But I'm getting used to it. I have a terminal emulator app at work that automaticall copies selected text to the clipboard (Windows), and it comes in handy there. Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Webserver config (permissions?)
Hi Ronnie, Previously, Ronnie Gauthier chose to write: Any normal web page or graphic whould be rw-r-r try 24.249.182.134:8192/~dad/ note the trailing slash I guess you didn't try accessing my server with that, did you (there's nothing in my access_log)? It seems, now, that 192.168.1.2/~dad/ works, but 192.168.1.2/~dad doesn't. So that could be right. But I don't remember that being the case last night. FYI, snippets from my error_log: [Fri Sep 21 09:00:39 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C^A [Fri Sep 21 09:00:40 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C [Fri Sep 21 09:00:45 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C [Fri Sep 21 09:00:54 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C [Fri Sep 21 09:01:03 2001] [error] [client 162.33.157.18] Invalid method in request 80F^A^C I haven't the foggiest notion what Invalid method in request 80 means. 162.33.157.18 is the IP address of my router at work. and from my access_log: 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:08:59:56 -0400] GET /~dad HTTP/1.1 301 308 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:09 -0400] GET /~dad HTTP/1.1 301 308 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:39 -0400] 80F^A^C^A 501 - 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:40 -0400] 80F^A^C 501 - 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:45 -0400] 80F^A^C 501 - 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:00:54 -0400] 80F^A^C 501 - 162.33.157.18 - - [21/Sep/2001:09:01:03 -0400] 80F^A^C 501 - Because of restrictions with my router, I can't test my config. The router will not do port forwarding if the source of the request is from the internal network. snip Thanks, Tim ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Konqueror and ftp
Using ftp://host gets you an anonymous ftp login. Is there a way to use Konqueror to get an ftp login as a regular user? Thanks, Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Konqueror and ftp
try ftp://user@host -Original Message- From: Joel Hammer Sent: Fri 9/21/2001 10:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Konqueror and ftp Using ftp://host gets you an anonymous ftp login. Is there a way to use Konqueror to get an ftp login as a regular user? Thanks, Joel ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Konqueror and ftp
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:23:12 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using ftp://host gets you an anonymous ftp login. Is there a way to use Konqueror to get an ftp login as a regular user? Someone will know the answer. You imbed user and password in the ftp:// request, but I don't remember the syntax. -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bash profile problem
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:47:50 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:23, Collins Richey wrote: I have bash 2.04, and I can't find anyway to get the aliases in the profile to take effect for normal users. . If, however, I use su, ls is available immediately in color. Is this a bash bug, maybe? [snipetty hack] su uses the existing users environment and paths su - uses root's bash script Yes, but both sets of scripts are identical, namely both .bash_profile and .bashrc in both /home/collins and /root are #!/bin/bash -ls source /etc/profile The alias ... statements take effect only when I use su or login directly as root. OK, here's the problem. Direct login as root or normal user works aok. xterm under xfce, or konsole under kde ignores the aliases during initial login; you have to manually issue source /etc/profile. It's not just my profile - any aliases you put in the profile will be ignored. How can I slay this beast? -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Konqueror and ftp
On Friday 21 September 2001 22:23, Joel Hammer babbled: Using ftp://host gets you an anonymous ftp login. Is there a way to use Konqueror to get an ftp login as a regular user? Thanks, Joel use ftp://username:password@host -- Douglas J. Hunley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net/Admin: http://linux.nf/ Brainbench Linux Administration Certified ~~ Now offering Linux admin services for the SOHO/home user ~~ If violence isn't solving your problems, you're not using enough of it.. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [SLE] A gentle request
On Friday 21 September 2001 19:51 pm, Glenn Williams wrote: On Friday 21 September 2001 15:24, you wrote: [snip] To whom that applies When replying to a mail please _DO_NOT CC to the person. As this person is on the list also you are just increasing bandwith usage for both sides. Since the only way you can send an email to any SuSE mailling Lists is only if the person is subscribed what is the benefit of CC'ing to the others who tried to provide an answer unless the original email sender has requested to be CC'ed. Here's the problem (mail-client-specific - in my case, Kmail): Like many of you, I subscribe to 2 Linux mail lists; the SuSE list and the generic list Doug hosts. If I want to reply to something on the linux-users list, I click the 'reply' icon. If I do the same thing on the SuSE list, the reply goes to the *author* and not the list, so then I must open the address book, find the address for the SuSE list, click on it, and then delete the author's address. Big deal! you say. But it is a royal PIA from where I sit. If I remember, (*if*) I can click the 'reply ALL' icon and then remember to delete the extra address. It would be great if they both worked the same way - but they don't. My 2 kopecks... Regards (so why did you send this to the linux.nf list??) But I agree with you 100%. Every other list I have *ever* joined works by just hitting 'reply', but some of the S.O.B.'s on the SuSE list think that their way is the 'pure' way. And I think I'm going to drop that list just because of it. More because of the attitude than having to spend the time to make sure the mail goes to the right place. (but of couse, they don't care) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 09/21/01 21:27 + ++ Ninety-eight percent of the adults in this country are decent, hard-working, honest Americans. It's the other lousy two percent that get all the publicity. But then, we elected them. --Lily Tomlin ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
