RE: winmodem
The device manager tab?? What is that? What does lspci say it is? --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can say that it is winmodem and the device manager tab describes it as HCF 56K PCI modem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: winmodem Every winmodem is different. There is no univeral driver, so i don't really know what any of this is about. You haven't even stated what kind of modem you have. Perhaps if you looked at http://www.linmodems.org you'd find some answers to your questions. --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read somewhere that 14 th issue of newsletter describes the procedure http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/ - This site contains the code for it, maybe device driver or something. http://walbran.org/sean/linux/stodolsk/ Jean Sagi also responded to this saying that he has done it on Mandrake 8.1. Will my installed system of SUSE 7.1 is of kernel 2.4 xxx .Can I recompile it using the 2.4.8 kernel or should I use Mandrake 8.1( I have the two CDs of that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: winmodem I'm not sure where you read that. THe kernel version really has nothing to do with the ability to use a winmodem. Have you looked at linmodems.org ? --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had read somewhere that the new kernel 2.4 enables to use winmodem for linux, can you help me. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, just ./configure, no options at all. I'd do it again to make That worked. So, its definitely some of the options I chose. thanks. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Linux on Macs
Greetings, Anyone have any experience installing/using Linux on Macs (especially Powerbooks)? I'm going to get my hands on an older Powerbook 3400c tomorrow, and i'd really really like to put Linux on it. I will say that my experience with Macs in general is very very little. I've used them on a few random occasions, and utterly disliked Mac OS. I've already looked at the relevant sections of linux-laptop.net but the bulk of the info is just tips suggestions, not really guides. I've found that this little guy is actually supported in SuSE-7.3, which might be a good thing. Anyone with tips, or useful websites would be appreciated. thanks, Lonni = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Linux on Macs
--- Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, I'm happy to hear you're getting a Mac. The primary reason for I'm happy too. I've wanted to play with Linux on a PPC architecture for a while, and the fact that this is a laptop will make it even more useful. whirl for a while, download some utilities, buy a license for Kaliedoscope (http://www.kaleidoscope.net/), give BBedit, MailSmith, and FileBuddy I was forced to use BBedit in a class in college for a semester and i hated it with every fiber of my being. I'm not at all familiar with the others that you listed. a few spins around the block. There are hundreds of other utilities and enhancements to the MacOS that you can check out. I'd rather enhance Linux running on the Mac, then waste time with Mac OS. If i could run Mac OSX on this little guy, i'd consider it, but since i can't, i really don't have much of an interest. My better half loves Macs, and i'm gradually convincing her of how good linux is. Hopefully this will be the final step. Second, while its unlikely that your 3400c will have been upgraded (a complex mobo swapping procedure as there are no CPU upgrades) the 240MHz version is pretty speedy. My wife uses here 7300/200 daily and we've had MacOS x running on it. That's a 200MHz 604e, btw. If you are still The 3400c that i'm getting does have the 240Mhz CPU (thankfully). Are you saying that it can run OS X? Everything that i've read over the past few days seems to suggest otherwise. Finally, you can install any one of the numerous 60x and 740/7400 compatible Linux distros. The ones I know of OTTOMH are SuSE, Mandrake, Linux PPC and YellowDog. I've been looking closely at YellowDog, and it seems fairly well polished maintained. PPC Linux seems to be a bit out of date (a fairly old 2.4.x kernel for example). I've heard way too many instability nightmare stories about Mandrake, so i won't even touch it on any architecture. I was going to consider SuSE, however since I only have a 4GB harddrive, i don't see how i'll ever be able to take advantage of the 6 CDs. What are you running on yours? Then again, maybe you could get a 1400cs that's upgraded to a G3/400 2:1 :) Beggers can't be chosers. I'm basically getting this PB as a trade for some other hardware i've got lying about. thanks for your input! = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ARK Rootkit
Well after spending about 13 seconds searching on Google: http://packetstorm.widexs.nl/UNIX/penetration/rootkits/ --- Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, A friend of mine was hacked a few days ago. chkrootkit reports that ARK (Ambient Root Kit) is installed in the system. Does anyone know where I can find this rootkit for download?? Some time ago, I found a site with the actual rootkits. But as I'm not in that kind of stuff, I din't bookmarked it (too bad). __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Oops...i did it again!
I think it was exec: - that wasn't found. Its all fixed now, so i'm
not too concerned.
--- Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:26 pm, Net Llama wrote:
The only clue i've got
at the moment is in /var/log/gui where I see *only* the following:
/etc/rc.d/rc.gui: exec: -: not found
rc.gui was last changed on 8/21/01, so i can't quite understand why
its
choking now. FWIW, here's what rc.gui looks like:
#! /bin/bash
# $Id: rc.gui,v 1.3 1999/11/12 12:12:59 ray Exp $
#
# KDM *only*! (for now ;^)
exec - /var/log/gui 21
C=$0; C=${C##*/}
I wonder, is it exec (being part of bash, I hope not) that is not
found or
/etc/rc.d/rc.gui that is not found?
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who has built Mozilla from source?
Subject basically asks it all. Has anyone successfully built Mozilla from source? If so, what kind of voo-doo monkey magic did you need to get it to build into a fully functional package? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: Subject basically asks it all. Has anyone successfully built Mozilla from source? If so, what kind of voo-doo monkey magic did you need to get it to build into a fully functional package? Built it. Haven't tested it a whole lot. Followed instructions on http://www.mozilla.org/build/unix-details.html Used make and not gmake, of course. I executed dist/bin/mozilla and it started right up. But, I really haven't used it all that much. It did load my profile data since all my bookmarks were there and my home page hafdn't changed. But... I really just started it up to see if it worked and didn't browase much or try to read mail/news with it. eW3.1 with some updates. I met the minimum requirements listed on the referenced page. Ughh...make bombed out after about 45 seconds of compiling: gcc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,realloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_new -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_new -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_delete -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_delete -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Calloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Realloc -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -pedantic -Wno-long-long -pthread -pipe -DDEBUG -D_DEBUG -DDEBUG_netllama -DTRACING -ffunction-sections -O -o xpt_dump xpt_dump.o -L../../../../dist/bin -L../../../../dist/lib ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a -ldl -lm -lc ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a(xpt_arena.o): In function `XPT_DestroyArena': xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x28): undefined reference to `__wrap_free' xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x3a): undefined reference to `__wrap_free' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[5]: *** [xpt_dump] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt/tools' make[4]: *** [export] Error 2 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt' make[3]: *** [export] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib' make[2]: *** [export] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom' make[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla' make: *** [default] Error 2 I've got no clue what this means. Anyone? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: Ughh...make bombed out after about 45 seconds of compiling: gcc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,realloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_new -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_new -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_delete -Wl,--wrap -Wl,__builtin_vec_delete -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Free -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Malloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Calloc -Wl,--wrap -Wl,PR_Realloc -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -pedantic -Wno-long-long -pthread -pipe -DDEBUG -D_DEBUG -DDEBUG_netllama -DTRACING -ffunction-sections -O -o xpt_dump xpt_dump.o -L../../../../dist/bin -L../../../../dist/lib ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a -ldl -lm -lc ../../../../dist/lib/libxpt.a(xpt_arena.o): In function `XPT_DestroyArena': xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x28): undefined reference to `__wrap_free' xpt_arena.o(.text.XPT_DestroyArena+0x3a): undefined reference to `__wrap_free' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[5]: *** [xpt_dump] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt/tools' make[4]: *** [export] Error 2 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib/xpt' make[3]: *** [export] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom/typelib' make[2]: *** [export] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla/xpcom' make[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/netllama/stuff/mozilla' make: *** [default] Error 2 I've got no clue what this means. Anyone? What are your versions of gtk+, gtk+-devel, gtk+-devel-static (1.2.8 for me), libglib and libglib-devel (1.2.9)? gtk+-1.2.10 gtk+-devel-1.2.10 glib-1.2.10 glib-devel-1.2.10 What version of libIDL and libIDL-devel (0.6.5 for me)? libIDL-0.6.5 libIDL-devel-0.6.5 Any other ideas? Do you know what your configure line looked like? Its highly possible that i chose some bad options, since i was guessing fairly wildly on some of the stuff. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: who has built Mozilla from source?
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: What about libglib? I've got glib-1.2.8, glib-devel-1.2.8, but I also have libglib, and libglib-devel installed (1.2.9). Apparently, they're different shrug The only distro that appears to include a libglib package is Mandrake, and it comes from the glib SRPM. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: winmodem
Every winmodem is different. There is no univeral driver, so i don't really know what any of this is about. You haven't even stated what kind of modem you have. Perhaps if you looked at http://www.linmodems.org you'd find some answers to your questions. --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read somewhere that 14 th issue of newsletter describes the procedure http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/ - This site contains the code for it, maybe device driver or something. http://walbran.org/sean/linux/stodolsk/ Jean Sagi also responded to this saying that he has done it on Mandrake 8.1. Will my installed system of SUSE 7.1 is of kernel 2.4 xxx .Can I recompile it using the 2.4.8 kernel or should I use Mandrake 8.1( I have the two CDs of that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: winmodem I'm not sure where you read that. THe kernel version really has nothing to do with the ability to use a winmodem. Have you looked at linmodems.org ? --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had read somewhere that the new kernel 2.4 enables to use winmodem for linux, can you help me. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Crash: How to track the cause
--- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My linux box crashed today. I was at work, so it wasn't me. /var/log/messages has no indication way. Is there a way to trace the cause? What does the box do (desktop, server, etc)? Which kernel are you running? By crashed, you mean locked up? Is there a possible overheating/overclocking problem? My experience has shown that when a box just locks solid, with no information at all in messages, it tends to be a hardware problem, memory usually. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Oops...i did it again!
elusplanet.net wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:26:37 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it was exec: - that wasn't found. Its all fixed now, so i'm not too concerned. and the fix was? I'm asking because the exact same thing is happening here now =( To use the rc.gui from COL3.1.1 rather than the one i had laying about from a previous version. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (no subject)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Typing furiously on February 12, Cyberclops managed to emit: What in hell is this s**t? A stock, witty reply to ping. As in ping pong. A slightly less hostile question would have sufficed. As would not spamming the list with the same thing 10 times in succession. Forget ping, try plonk __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!! (fixed - not solved)
--- daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 10 February 2002 07:34, Michael wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:23:49 -0500 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: You may want to check your system for a rootdisk folder. Mike === OOOPS! I meant rootkit Mike If I have one what does that mean? You've been haxored. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: couple of quick stupid questions
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. what's the linux-users channel on IRC? I forget... 2. can one create a hyperlink in HTML to an irc channel? if so, how? 3. anyone know of an irc-html forum (and vice-versa) gateway? Sorry, i don't have answers to these questions, although i do have a comment. I'd think that an irc-html gateway would be very resource intensive on any irc channel that has any normal traffic. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: winmodem
I'm not sure where you read that. THe kernel version really has nothing to do with the ability to use a winmodem. Have you looked at linmodems.org ? --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had read somewhere that the new kernel 2.4 enables to use winmodem for linux, can you help me. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel recommendations
--- Joshua Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: --- Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been off the linux lists for a couple of weeks. Is 2.4.17 a safe kernel for upgrading? Its what i've been using on all of my boxes. Not a single problem. I'm running SuSE's version of 2.4.16 here. Is there any features or bugfixes I'm missing by not running 2.4.17? Of course, that's why new kernel versions are released. Whether you your hardware are personally effected, i can't say. Read the changelog for 2.4.17 and decide for yourself. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: (no subject)
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freecell
Greetings, Does anyone know of a very good FreeCell game? I've tried Ace of Penguins and XFreecell, and neither is really up to snuff. As much as I hate to admit it, the MS version seems to be the gold standard to which the others are not comparing. -Lonni = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: freecell
--- David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:19:03 -0800 (PST) begin Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Greetings, Does anyone know of a very good FreeCell game? I've tried Ace of Penguins and XFreecell, and neither is really up to snuff. As much as I hate to admit it, the MS version seems to be the gold standard to which the others are not comparing. Well, since you seem to like KDE, I assume you've tried kpat (the old xpat2). But my favorite is PySOL. Not sure if the Caldera's version of Python is up to it, so you may need to upgrade that, but PySOL is king in my house. When I did an upgrade, I nearly had a mutiny on my hands until I put PySOL back on. You'd have thought I'd deleted their bank accounts! Actually, i discovered that freecell.exe runs perfectly with wine. Thanks for your input though. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Oops...i did it again!
OK, now i think i'm a hazard to myself. A couple weeks back i somehow
managed to fubar the runlevel 5 startup on my Redhat box (after
upgrading XFree86 to 4.2.0).
Today, i somehow managed to do the same on my Caldera box. It tries to
go to runlevel5, and bombs immediately with the error id 'x' respawning
too quickly, disabled for 5 minutes.The thing is, i didn't touch X
at all today. I did manually upgrade alot of packages to their
COL-3.1.1 versions, but none of them were X packages.
If I do a startx, all is peachy, but kdm refuses to run. I looked in
/var/log/XFree86.0.log and there are no errors. The only clue i've got
at the moment is in /var/log/gui where I see *only* the following:
/etc/rc.d/rc.gui: exec: -: not found
rc.gui was last changed on 8/21/01, so i can't quite understand why its
choking now. FWIW, here's what rc.gui looks like:
#! /bin/bash
# $Id: rc.gui,v 1.3 1999/11/12 12:12:59 ray Exp $
#
# KDM *only*! (for now ;^)
exec - /var/log/gui 21
C=$0; C=${C##*/}
DM=/opt/kde/bin/kdm
XC=/etc/X11/XF86Config
XS=/usr/X11R6/bin/X
FallBack=false
MSG=
VC=1
if [ ! -x $DM ]; then
MSG=$DM: not installed!
echo $C: $MSG 12
FallBack=true
elif [ ! -r $XC -o ! -x $XS ]; then
MSG=X11: configuration problems!
echo $C: $MSG 12
FallBack=true
fi
if $FallBack; then
chvt $VC
echo -e \033c\nINIT: $MSG /dev/tty$VC
sleep 1
trap SIGTERM
telinit 3
sleep 1
echo Press return to contiune. /dev/tty$VC
else
exec $DM -nodaemon
fi
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Re: Kernel sources question (Mandrake 8.1)
I'd strongly recommend downloading the latest stable kernel source (2.4.17) from kernel.org and building that. --- Jean Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where to get the kernel sources on the Mandrake 8.1 cd's? I used the software manager to find and install them but i cannot find them. I don´t know if it's some package i have to install, or they just dont come in any of the three cd's. I read the kernel-howto, but I just says to get linux-x.y.z files from some urls and it follows with the process of recompiling the kernel... I need them, not to recompile a new kernel. Just need source file (headers maybe) to compile the modules for install a PC-TEL winmodem my uncle has. I´m following the steps of Jan Stifter I found on Llama's SxS for 2.4 kernels and it states that you have to run ./configure with two parameters: --with-hal=pct789(Uncle's modem chipset ) --with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy your includes... That's it idon´t have them!! = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
building Mozilla from source
Greetings, I've seen a few random comments here there (off this list) about people getting very significant performance improvements when they rebuilt Mozilla from source (even compared to the i686 binary tarball). Truth be told, i attempted to rebuild a Mozilla-0.9.8 SRPM earlier this week, and it bombed out after chugging for nearly 40 minutes. So, that said, who has already done this successfully, and did you see a noticable performance improvement? If so, what did your configure line look like (Mozilla seems to have something like 200 options)? thanks, Lonni = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could try editing your password files. Look at /etc/shadow. For example: andrew:s52TAIl4IT.:11314:0:-1:7:-1:-1:134535852 aph5::11476:0:-1:7:-1:-1:134535844 user aph5 has no password and you can log on with just the user name. Joel On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:32:44PM -0600, daddy wrote: I'm running eD2.4 with kernel 2.2.14. KDE2.2.1 on an AMD k2-300. When I try to log on as any user I get the password incorrect - login failed message. Even as root. I am currently logged onto another distrib (OL2.3) ona different partition. How can I reset the passwords? Any help would be greatly appreciated. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
More SxS Steps for Feb 9
BIND - Running Bind 9 in a chroot jail (Douglas Hunley) BIND - Installing and Configuring BIND 9 (and rndc) (Douglas Hunley) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: XFree86
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie Were you the one putting Xfree86 4.2 on a system. If so are there any gotchas? I am running a ew 3.1 * 3.1.1 beta, thinking of updating something to the latest safe level. Already have the latest samba 2.2.x. Will later add the 1.2.17 kernel after I finish my software course at UNT. Yes, i was one of several that built installed XFree86-4.2.0. I was also the one that had the very odd problem where gdm refused to start going into runlevel 5. This was in a RedHat based system, not Caldera, BTW. I haven't yet gotten around to upgrading my Caldera box to 4.2.0 (i did build 4.1.0 on it several months back, and that went swimmingly). The actual build of 4.2.0 was quite easy though, i just followed the SxS. Truth be told, i haven't seen any real performance or feature benefit going from 4.1.0 to 4.2.0 on that 1 box. I will note that i did see a significant improvement going from 3.3.6 to 4.1.0 on my Caldera box and my redhat box. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
--- daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, Net Llama wrote: I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. I haven't forgotten my password. No member of my family can access their account. OK, then you need to determine what got broken. Passwords don't just change themselves. Either you tinkered with something you shouldn't have, or your box got compromised. How can I alter my boot up squence so that I boot up into single user mode. Well, if you're running GRUB, then you'll prolly need to edit the boot= line so that it says something like 'linux single'. If you're using LILO, then simply type 'linux single' at the LILO prompt. Once I do, I would then use the COAS tools to re-enter the passwords? Errr...no. Now is not the time to be going to a GUI to solve your problems. You're going to need to get really familiar with the command line. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: HELP!!
--- daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, you wrote: I think a key piece of info that is missing here is whether he has simply forgetten the password(s), or if something occured to render authentication broken. Tinkering with /etc/shadow may not be the best idea, especially if this is simply a matter of a forgetten password, where booting into single user mode would be the ideal fix. Will changing the 5 to 1 in this line of initab get me to boot up into single user run mode? id:5:initdefault: Yes, but if you can get to the point where you can edit that file, then you're already logged in, and you won't need to edit that file. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
xfce panel [ WAS Re: XFree86]
I don't know that its possible to natively hide the xfce panel. You can minimize it though, but i'm not sure that's what you had in mind. --- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie Been running xfce for a couple of weeks now, kde2 what is that M$ stuff g. Tjhere is one thing I would like in xfce and that is the panel would hide till you needed it. May wait a while on x 4.2 then not a whole lot of upgrading really on the beta box except the kernel. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fw: gandalf.eisnet 02/06/02:15.45 system check
--- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Llama. The reason for 2.4.2 is because I attempt to stick with Caldera-stock kernels. Granted, I have not done any updates to this box since install... the reason is the reason for the last install (say that 10 times fast and it'll STILL sound impressively confusing). It's a long story but last time I upgraded everything the box no longer booted and I have had too much to do to worry about it. It'll take a few more times on other boxes before I feel secure again stress. I have a feeling this has something to do with a combination of things... partly having to do with the Mandrake box being bounced, and partly having to do with the Samba differences, and possibly kernel-related. I'll have to do another stab at the upgrade process. Any ideas on the CDROM icons? That flipped me out! I never use the Upgrade option on distro CDs. I too got very badly burnt trying to upgrade from COL2.2 to 2.3, and it took me the better part of a month to recover. I generally upgrade everything manually now, rebuilding from the SRPMs. It avoids having wacky upgrade scripts break things, and gives me a more optimized system. Sure, it might take a few days of work, but in the end, its worth it. As for the CDROM icons, i have no real idea. I haven't seriously used KDE in over a year. My only guess is some kind of filesystem corruption. I've never used ReiserFS, who i can't say for sure what kinds of bad foo it may have. I've always had very good results with XFS, which i use on two of my boxes. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ssh and how do you do things
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2002 02:22 pm, Federico Voges warbled: Read that as I said but you need to be psychic to understand what its saying as with most man pages. Not-so-short answer: You don't need to ssh first. File xfer (remote to local) scp user@host:/path/source_file /local/path/[new_filename] Can you use a 'directory name' for remote and use -r ? Yes, you can. IIRC, if you include the last / (eg: /home/fvoges/docs/) it will create the directory: scp -r user@host:~/docs . will copy everything in the docs dir (recursively) to the current dir. scp -r user@host:~/docs/ . will create a new docs directory in the current (local) dir. The, it will copy everything in the docs dir (recursively) to it. Ok thanks for the help, but the help means absolutely nothing to me. So I have a remote site www.eastwind.com.au wherein lies a dir called 'photos' I want to rewrite the site and put up about 650 photos; I only have ssh access. I ssh in and then cd to /home/webroot/eastwind/docs; at this point i can call scp, but from that point I have had no success. What do I use in the user@host: position my login on the remote machine and my hostname here or what ? Sorry I have no idea what user@host: stands for. It stands for the remote box's domain name. If you're looking to xfer files from your box to the server, then user@host is the remote server, where user is your username on that server. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: kernel recommendations
--- Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been off the linux lists for a couple of weeks. Is 2.4.17 a safe kernel for upgrading? Its what i've been using on all of my boxes. Not a single problem. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ssh and how do you do things
--- Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Remember that you invoke scp from the machine you want to transfer FROM not the machine you're transferring TO. This is not true. You can do it either way, although to reduce the amount of confusion for Keith, its prolly best to follow that suggestion. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ssh X11 forwarding weirdness
--- David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:37:22 -0800 (PST) begin Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] I see nothing, as if $DISPLAY has no set value. not good. This value should have been set by SSH. nods Now that I'm work, i see what you're talking about (the two troublesome boxes are at home). If i SSH from 1 box to another here at work, then I see the following: [netllama@netllama netllama]$ echo $DISPLAY netllama.hdqt.valinux.com:10.0 On boxB, its the newest stable version of OpenSSH, built from SRPM downloaded from the openssh FTP server. On boxA its the latest 'blessed' version from Caldera, 2.9 i think. I've had to back off 3.0. I've had nothing but problems with it. It may be a configuration issue, but it sure shouldn't be that much harder than 2.9. Drop HostB back to 2.9 if you can. Check your config, and try again. Eeek. I spent the good part of a night getting it up to 3.0. I guess i'll give it a whirl tonight (assuming that my better half doesn't already have plans). Thanks! = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
Try searching for 'libstdc' instead. I did this just yesterday. --- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:22 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:23 pm, Michael Hipp warbled: Where would I come up with a libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and what would I do with it once I had it? I have a package to install that can't live without it. I'm running COLW 3.1.1. Go to rpmfind.net and search for a suitable rpm. Download it and install, do a ldconfig -v. Should be fine then. Thanks. I thought to look there. But searches turn up nothing of the sort. Even a search on just 'libc6' turns up empty. A look at the alphabetic index starting with 'l' gets no farther than libstdc++- before the entries turn into something else entirely. And the numbers bear no resemblence to 1-2.so.3. Obviously I don't know what I'm doing. Any handholding appreciated. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
Look at the contents of the RPM. I'll note that you get a libstdc++-libc RPM when you rebuild the gcc SRPM, which is prolly the more prudent method of doing this anyway, otherwise you run the risk of having incompatible libraries. --- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But how do you then know which of the 188 items it lists will give you libc6.1-2.so.3? Thanks, Michael On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:49 am, Net Llama wrote: Try searching for 'libstdc' instead. I did this just yesterday. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: NO MAIL
--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out Lycoris Desktop/LX: http://www.lycoris.com. Appears to be similar philosophy to Elx but more stable at this moment. Lycoris is the distro formally known as Redmond Linux, which is very heavily based on Caldera. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize for being dense, truly. But how does a person ever figure this stuff out ... Time/experience/experimentation/the wise sages on this list. Ok, I'm doing that (skipping around actually). I eventually stumble on this one: ibstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.html GNU C++ library Mandrake Cooker libstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm That says it will provide above. All the funny (meaningless, to me) numbers match. Is a Mandrake Cooker compatible with my Caldera system. May Mandrake Cooker stuff is basically Mandrake's dev box. Its about as compatible as is Redhat. THe only 100% compatible RPMs are the ones that Caldera builds. Everything else is a crap shoot, but much less so if you rebuild an SRPM, rather than installing the RPM that company/person X built. And how exactly would I rebuild the gcc SRPM?. I've installed rpm --rebuild whatever-foo.src.rpm If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/ everything that came with COLW 3.1.1 (I think) do I have what is needed for that? After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3? You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm Undoubtely this stuff is really, really easy once you know it. And there are now 5.2 quintillion people on this list who now realize I'm utterly stoopid. You're not stupid. You're asking questions about stuff that you don't understand. Get in line, everyone does it (hell, i did it about 10 times in the past 24 hours). All I really wanted was to install KHealthCare so I could monitor my CPU temp. (sigh) I probably have 6-8 hours into it by now. And I'm on the 4th package involved (none of which have installed according to the instructions). Well, if that's what you're trying to do, you're making it infinitely harder than is neccesary. Install lm-sensors instead. Its what the pros use to monitor temperature/fan speed/ etc in Linux. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote: rpm --rebuild whatever-foo.src.rpm If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/ [snip] After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3? You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm As long as you'll indulge me, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks. Bear in mind that I'm on a hard-driving search for that holy grail of files: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 So which rpm would I do --rebuild on? I searched the rpm database and the above lib file doesn't exist anywhere within. So how would rebuilding help? Am I to download the src for that file beforehand? Yup. *ALL* you should need if you want to go the SRPM route, is the gcc SRPM. That's where i got my copy of libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3. Well, if that's what you're trying to do, you're making it infinitely harder than is neccesary. Install lm-sensors instead. Its what the pros use to monitor temperature/fan speed/ etc in Linux. Yes, I got lm_sensors working (eventually; you know you've got one when the INSTALL file is 275 lines). But in the process I stumbled across KHealthCare that depends entirely on lm_sensors but does it all in KDE. Just what the Dr ordered. I don't think the DR. ordered 8 hours of pain trying to compile a KDE frontend for lm_sensors. Its your time, so if you don't care about spending alot of it fighting with various deps, then keep plowing through. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Thanks Douglas Hunley
--- Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 06 Feb 2002 22:06, Michael Hipp wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:33 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: xdpyinfo|grep resol resolution:90x96 dots per inch then tell me how you run X? through xdm? or startx? or other? At this moment I boot straight into KDE when it enters runlevel 5. So I presume I'm using kdm. I have attempted to study the tangled path that starts x but never figured it out. Weird ... If I change it to boot up to runlevel 3. Doing either 'startx' or 'startkde' produces a grey screen but no KDE login. The only thing that seems to start KDE properly is 'telinit 5'. So any idea where I should put the -- dpi 100? I do... [00:32 peter@penguin:~]$ xdpyinfo | grep dimensions dimensions:1280x1024 pixels (301x226 millimeters) So then I edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to add DisplaySize ... Section Monitor IdentifierCTX|CTX 1792UA VendorNameCTX ModelName 1792UA DisplaySize 300 226 HorizSync 30.0-95.0 VertRefresh 50.0-160.0 EndSection netllama@hal_netllama xdpyinfo | grep resol resolution:106x105 dots per inch So what exactly would this imply? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
anyone have success with the new Mozilla-0.9.8 ?
I just downloaded the binary tarball of Mozilla (as i've done for every
official Mozilla release since R16), and installed it in a new
directory. However, when i try to run the mozilla binary (as root), i
get a seg-fault:
[root@netllama /root]# /opt/mozilla/mozilla
/opt/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh: line 72: 21648 Segmentation fault
$prog ${1+$@}
I tried deleting ~/.mozilla but that made no difference.
I tried running mozilla as a normal user, and it randomly either core
dumps or segfaults in much the same fashion.
Am I missing something obvious?
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Re: ssh X11 forwarding weirdness
--- David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:55:08 -0800 (PST) begin Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: I've got 2 boxes networked together with a patch cable. I can SSH back forth between them without a single problem. However, if i try to run an X app while SSH'ed into either, the resulting behavior is very very weird: 1) Some applications refuse to run altogether with the error Error: Can't open display:. Netscape is one of them. Others do run, however, this leads to the 2nd bit of weirdness 2) They appear on the monitor of the box where they are running (the box I'm SSH'd into) rather than the box where the ssh client is running. I've never seen such strange behavior before, and i've worked with similar setups. Anyone have any ideas? Check to make sure SSH has set your DISPLAY variable. It will usually be 10:0 or 11:0. If it's 0:0, you'll be opening the screen on the other system. You may need to tweak /etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/ssh/ssh_config Do you happen to know the syntax for this? I'm looking at both files and not seeing any variable for DISPLAY. And why do you have access controls turned off in these systems anyway? Could elaborate on what you mean? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: anyone have success with the new Mozilla-0.9.8 ?
--- Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Net Llama wrote:
I just downloaded the binary tarball of Mozilla (as i've done for
every
official Mozilla release since R16), and installed it in a new
directory. However, when i try to run the mozilla binary (as root),
i
get a seg-fault:
[root@netllama /root]# /opt/mozilla/mozilla
/opt/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh: line 72: 21648 Segmentation fault
$prog ${1+$@}
I tried deleting ~/.mozilla but that made no difference.
I tried running mozilla as a normal user, and it randomly either
core
dumps or segfaults in much the same fashion.
Am I missing something obvious?
The problem on line 72 ?
Thanks Dr. Obvious. :)
That script is not of my creation, it came with Mozilla, and i'll also
note that the same exact script came with the previous version of
Mozilla. So, i'd say the odds are not the script, but the mozilla
binary. I could be wrong, which is why i'd like to know of anyone else
has had any success with Mozilla-0.9.8 from the binary tarball.
FWIW, i installed the RPMs for Mozilla-0.9.8 on the same box, and it
runs just fine, but those are compiled for i386, whereas the tarball is
compiled for i686.
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Re: some bits and trivia
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to get hold of the latest release of Caldera to no avail. Their site is constantly full and the mirrors do not have the latest release still. Does any one out there have a copy of the 3 iso's as yet or know of a reachable site? Sorry, no luck here either. I'm not sure what the user limit on their ISO server, but its most likely something incredibly low. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ssh X11 forwarding weirdness
--- David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 06:39:14 -0800 (PST) begin Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Do you happen to know the syntax for this? I'm looking at both files and not seeing any variable for DISPLAY. in sshd_config: X11Forwarding yes X11DisplayOffset 10 the X11DisplayOffset tells you what the first number will be, i.e., mine will be 10:0. Ahhh...i always wondered what that meant. The X11Forwarding part i knew. in ssh_config: ForwardX11 yes So if you're going from HostA to HostB, check HostA's ssh_config file (ForwardX11 no is the default), then check the HostB sshd_config file. Again, X11Forwarding no is the default. All of that checks out. I made sure to set that stuff up beforehand. Still, no go. I ssh from boxA to boxB, run whatever, and it appears on the monitor for boxB. But wait, this only gets weirder. If i reboot boxA, type xhost +, then SSH into boxB, and try to run, say, an xterm, it appears on boxB (bad). If I log out, run xhost + again (on boxA), and then SSH back into boxB (from boxA), I can run an X app just fine, and it appears on boxA. Why should I need to run 'xhost +' twice? I know there has to be something i'm missing here (beyond the inherent security issues involved). As for access controls, I'm talking xhost here. If you fire up X with the -ac option, or you run xhost +, then access controls are turned off. Type xhost with no arguments and it will tell you what, if any, are your access controls. But if you can suddenly pop up a box on the other host without first logging into X and turning off access controls, then they are off. Not good unless you want some prankster like me getting your attention by running a quick script that puts 1000 iterations of xeyes on your screen. Ahhh...ok. Yea, i was aware of that command, i just never connected the description with the name. OK, so what would you recommend? The thing that I don't understand is why i'm having so many problems. When i run through this routine on any box at work, it works, no xhost'ing needed. thanks for your help. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: fstab problems
--- Robert L. Hemus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was monkeying around with the /etc/fstab on hdb1 and buggered it up and need help. Following The Llama's advice I had purchased Running Linux 3rd Ed. and am able to get at the file, but can't seem to get it right. Here is a copy of the file I have on hdb3; devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0 */dev/hdb3 / ext2 defaults 1 3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 vfat ro 0 0 */dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 ext2 defaults 1 0 Would exchanging the *'d lines make it work? I thought I'd done that, but it didn't seem to work. I saved it in emacs with C-x C-s. The reason I think it is the fstab file is on bootup the Checking file systems Fail's and when it gets to System loggers it freezes. By the way I have to start the hdb3 with a rescue floppy. So/Or could the /bootgrub/menu.lst be the buggered one? Your problem is a bad fsck, not anything related to /etc/fstab or GRUB. If checking the filesystem fails, then you need to run a manual fsck against each unmounted or read-only ext2 partition. I have no clue what /mnt/hdb1 is supposed to be, but its certainly not a standard mountpoint. What did fstab look like before you started touching it? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
ssh X11 forwarding weirdness
I've got 2 boxes networked together with a patch cable. I can SSH back forth between them without a single problem. However, if i try to run an X app while SSH'ed into either, the resulting behavior is very very weird: 1) Some applications refuse to run altogether with the error Error: Can't open display:. Netscape is one of them. Others do run, however, this leads to the 2nd bit of weirdness 2) They appear on the monitor of the box where they are running (the box I'm SSH'd into) rather than the box where the ssh client is running. I've never seen such strange behavior before, and i've worked with similar setups. Anyone have any ideas? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Xine refuses to play DVDs
Greetings, I acquired an older 8X DVD drive last week, and started to delve into the world of DVDs in Linux. I had no problems whatsoever getting MPlayer to play any random DVD I threw at it. But, since MPlayer seems to have a very limited feature-set with DVDs, I figured I'd build Xine-0.9.8 too and give that a whirl. No such luck. I built xine-lib then xine-gui from source, and attempt to play any DVD that MPlayer handled easily, and all i get is the same error: Sorry, xine doesn't play encrypted DVDs. The legal status of CSS decryption is unclear and we will not provide such code. input_dvd: Unable to find VIDEO_TS.VOB on dvd. input_d5d: open dvd://VIDEO_TS.VOB xine: cannot find input plugin for this MRL Once that error occurs, all i get are seg faults, until I start Xine again, which only results in more of the same frustration. Seeing as how MPlayer plays these very same 'encrypted' DVDs, I obviously have libdvdcss and libdvdread installed properly. So, what am I missing here? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
SOLVED [Re: Xine refuses to play DVDs]
OK, i'm an idiot. Apparently what I was missing was another 3rd party plugin which was referenced on the Xine website. --- Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I acquired an older 8X DVD drive last week, and started to delve into the world of DVDs in Linux. I had no problems whatsoever getting MPlayer to play any random DVD I threw at it. But, since MPlayer seems to have a very limited feature-set with DVDs, I figured I'd build Xine-0.9.8 too and give that a whirl. No such luck. I built xine-lib then xine-gui from source, and attempt to play any DVD that MPlayer handled easily, and all i get is the same error: Sorry, xine doesn't play encrypted DVDs. The legal status of CSS decryption is unclear and we will not provide such code. input_dvd: Unable to find VIDEO_TS.VOB on dvd. input_d5d: open dvd://VIDEO_TS.VOB xine: cannot find input plugin for this MRL Once that error occurs, all i get are seg faults, until I start Xine again, which only results in more of the same frustration. Seeing as how MPlayer plays these very same 'encrypted' DVDs, I obviously have libdvdcss and libdvdread installed properly. So, what am I missing here? __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
More SxS Steps
XFree - 4.1.0 (updated) (Doug Hunley) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: continuing xscreensaver goofiness
--- dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: morning! i've had another little screen/keyboard/mouse lock while running xscreensaver-4.0 with direct rendering enabled. i've encountered this kind of thing before, when the extrusion hack would break things. at least it was kind enough to leave its locked image on the screen, so i could readily disable it. problem now is that the screen is blank when the thing dies (machine continues to operate perfectly well, and it does not seem to have anything to do with the daily crom run, as we had suspected, in that this time it happened several hours after the cron run), it leaves the screen blank. so the next guess is that it's a particular module. there are no errors in any logfiles i can find. so now i need to come up with a way to log the activity of xscreensaver itself, as it cycles through the modules. nothing i've tried works. ideas? i tried to email jamie directly about this, but the mail doesn't get accepted on the other end, probably because i'm doing the drippingwithirony smtp here, but incoming is hosted elsewhere. I too, have noticed that my box occasionally locks up when Xscreensaver is chugging away. I've tried to find a pattern, or something getting logged, but there is nothing. Let me know if you make any headway. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce question
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List In xfce can you put icons on the desktop like in kde2 does? I would like to set some icon shortcuts. xfce is great. AFAIK, you can't place icons on the desktop, only in the control panel bar thingy. You can customize the mouse generated menu (left mouse button click) to include whatever you want in it. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: continuing xscreensaver goofiness
--- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have written it down. A year or so ago I discovered that one of the screensaver choices (if you take the default random choices) is totally broken. At the time I removed it, but I can't remember which one. Hrmmm...not that i'm doubting your experience with it but: 1) Xscreensaver has had quite a few revs over the past few months, i'd think that if there was a problem with one, it would have been fixed by now 2) I've always tested all of my choices before using them, and never was able to forcefully reproduce any problem = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama babbled on about: Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5. Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5. Instead of choking like its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm. I'm incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself. You didn't catch this entry in the changelog: No more animal sacrifices needed. XFree86 will now automagically work for all system named after or operated by individual known as animals. Certain municipalities were beginning to enact measures to curtail the thinning of redient wildlife, so this feature was moved from the super-experimental-has-no-real-business-being-used branch to the HEAD branch. Expect continued development and refinement in CVS. Excellent __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Proof that MS has WON! ( was Re: WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself)
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama babbled on about: Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5. Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5. Instead of choking like its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm. I'm incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself. So, just le me get this straight... A problem unexpected cropped up on your computer, and the solution was to reboot! Not exactly. I rebooted a few times before this, and it continued to be broken. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: XMMS runs fast and no sound for some users
This normally occurs when you've set the output device in XMMS to generate a wav file rather than to play the MP3 to /dev/audio. Check the XMMS config. --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to know this but: XMMS runs fine for my regular user, but when another regular user tries to use it, the song loads, but plays very fast, and there is no sound. There is no attempt made to access the audio device, because this behavior occurs even when there is another xmms program running successfully from my regular user. strace xmms gives an error over and over again: read(4, 0xb974, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) This doesn't appear to be a permissions problem with the mp3's. I made xmms chmod +s so it has the following permissions: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root users 964239 Feb 17 2000 /usr/bin/xmms I tried to install an updated version of xmms, but, as is getting common, it wouldn't compile on my badly abused caldera 2.4 box. I found the FAQ regarding xmms but they don't mention this problem. The other regular user can play mp3's fine with mpg123, so this may be some KDE or graphics problem. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Commercial CD burning software
--- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:13:39 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Roger Oberholtzer wrote: | Has anyone tried this for Linux? | |http://www.musicmatch.com/home/ | | It is CD/DVD ripper/burner software that claims to do alot. | | There is a Linux version. The basic version is a free (big) download. | The pro costs a bit but seems to do alot. | | So, before I download, I thought I would ask. | | All I know about them is their website doesn't play nice with the | current Mozilla nightly I'm using. I still use 0.94 (or 0.91 - I can't remember and it is at home) and it worked fine. As this has usually been the case, I have not upgraded Mozilla for a while. Any suggestions as to the latest greatest version? It loaded just fine on 0.9.7 for me. I looked it over. Granted, i don't burn mixed media CDs, its either all data or all music. So, for me, this product really doesn't offer anything that i can't already get from good `old cdrecord. I guess if you need its fancy user friendly feature set, then it looks nice. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Commercial CD burning software
--- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, too, use cdrecord direct. But my daughter (all of 8) is not quite that far along yet. She wants to made CDs of music. So, I am looking. She likes XMMS, so that type of interface is ok. Well there are quite a lot of free cdrecord GUI frontends out there. I prefer gcombust, others like XCDRoast. Neither needs wine. I came across this from the latest LimeWire, which in the 'Library' where it lists your MP3s, there is a 'Burn CD' button. I thought, ok, let's see how this works. Boom, I was at the site under discussion. Interesting. Some kind of x-marketing deal no doubt. BTW, the latest LimeWire (Java Gnutella client) works 'out of the box' with a standard Col 3.1 install. Free download at http://www.limewire.com I'm fairly certain that Limewire is nothing more than a front end to the Gnutella network. That said, there are other Gnutella clients out there (that do not require java). I use gtk-gnutella, and find it quite feature rich user friendly. gtk-gnutella shows you the gnutella client that the remote file is using, and i've seen Limewire listed quite often. So, limewire is definitely not a requirement. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
WEIRD! XF-4.2.0 fixes itself
Some of you may remember the rather odd experience that I had with my XFree86-4.2.0 upgrade where gdm bombed when switching to runlevel 5. Well, i had to reboot my box to test something, and not even thinking about it, i just let it go naturally into RL5. Instead of choking like its done about 5 times before, it booted properly into gdm. I'm incredibly stumped,but pleased that it somehow fixed itself. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks guys. I have dl the latest already. I can force the rpm -nodeps as it has a depens on xscreensaver. I did build the src rpm as Lonnie suggested. So, is XFCE working properly now? Xscreensaver is icing on the cake, and is, by no means, required to use XFCE. My problem is after building xscreensaver ./conf make make install. the rpm does not see xscreen. trying to rpm build from rpm --tarbuild but nothing seems to be understood by rpm. [root@RSivernell xfce]# rpm -tarbuild xscreensaver-4.00.tar rpm: --tarbuild (-t) requires one of a,b,i,c,p,l as its sole argument Before you waste time with this, do you already have a version of Xscreensaver installed? Is the 'xscreensaver' binary in your $PATH? When I rebuild the XFCE SRPM, it can never find Xscreensaver either, however I do have it installed, and everything works just fine. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you build a *.tar to rpm You need a spec file for starters. the xfce rpm wants a xscreensaver as dep. I have dled it still the rpm complains. So I will try to make rpm od xscreensaver. Unneccesary. As long as the xscreensaver binary is in your $PATH, it will work just fine. [root@RSivernell xfce]# rpm -Uvh /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPMS/i386/xfce-3.8.14c-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: xscreensaver is needed by xfce-3.8.14c-1 Just --nodeps it, and you'll be fine. [root@RSivernell xfce]# used the following [root@RSivernell xfce]# rpm --tarbuild xscreensaver-4.00.tar rpm: --tarbuild (-t) requires one of a,b,i,c,p,l as its sole argument rpm will install with --nodeps does xscreen server need xml gle glut to be used No, it doesn't, but all of the 3D screensavers just won't work. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: XFCE can also be downloaded from the XFCE website, http://www.xfce.org Seeing how a new stable version of XFCE was released about a week ago, i kinda doubt what's on the CD is remotely up to date. Agreed, but it was a painless install using rpm, unlike what it appears that Rick is going through. With that in mind though, perhaps I'll mosey over to xfce.org and download the latest for myself. I've played in XFCE a few times and am impressed with it's speed. I use it when I want to quickly get to an xterm. But I still prefer KDE and all its bloated glory ;-) Well, the XFCE team also releases RPMs, and they include install scripts that make setting XFCE as your default window manager a snap. Just two more reasons why I use XFCE and nothing else. Its damn easy to build install. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have already rpmd the xfce rpm with -nodeps, installed great and Lonnie time xscereen was picked up after I ran xfce. If I reboot and go to the kde login screen and select xfce and login, I have lots of keyboard problems. But if I have kde2 running and start xfce the panel starts and everything works ok. I think I have a run level 5 startxfce instead of startkde. Where would I make that change. I know it would be in the /etc dir. I have put the xinitrc xfce3rc in /X11/xinit rebooted, still kde is brought back up. I did move the kde stuff to a tmp dir. I'm not using the KDE2 version of kdm, so someone else might need to field this one. If you're looking to make XFCE your default window manager, simply run xfce_setup as that user, and it should work. You might also want to look at the Window Managers section of the SxS. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: init and defunct process cleanup
My understanding is that defunct processes are zombies, and can't be cleaned up with a reboot. --- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a process or two that are listed as defunct and are owned by init. It was my understanding that these types of processes would get init as their parent, and periodically init would scan its children and remove the defunct ones. These processes seem to be hanging around. They don't respond to kill signals at all (I sent kill -$i where i was 1-15) and they are still there. Can I signal init to tell it to cleanup its children? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: init and defunct process cleanup
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: My understanding is that defunct processes are zombies, and can't be cleaned up with a reboot. Do you mean can't be cleaned up *without* a reboot? Under AIX, defuncts process can only be cleaned up by a reboot, AFAIK. Yea, that was a typo. I meant without not with. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have built and installed xfce and I can boot into it from the kde2 login. Looks great, except no text what so ever is inputed into any program. Any ideas. Caldera stock system ew 3.1.1 beta. Can you elaborate on what you mean? Are you saying that you can't type anything in a terminal window? Did you build XFCE from the tarball or SRPM? If it was the tarball, perhaps you didn't choose the right configure options? I always go with the SRPM, that way I know i'm getting the right options. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: xfce
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:31:36 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have built and installed xfce and I can boot into it from the kde2 login. Looks great, except no text what so ever is inputed into any program. Any ideas. Caldera stock system ew 3.1.1 beta. Can you elaborate on what you mean? Are you saying that you can't type anything in a terminal window? Did you build XFCE from the tarball or SRPM? If it was the tarball, perhaps you didn't choose the right configure options? I always go with the SRPM, that way I know i'm getting the right options. Lonnie I built from tarball, yes no text in any terminal or edit field, NADA here. I will dl the srpm, but I have never done it that way. Its very easy: rpm --rebuild xfce-whateversrc.rpm If all goes well, you'll have an RPM in /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPMS = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
--- Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:34, Net Llama wrote: Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in all of Linux. I've stopped counting the number of boxes that its locked up, fubarred or othewise rendered useless. The part of kudzu I am impressed with is it's auto-detection of added / removed hardware during boot up. Particularly sound. Like similar I don't pretend to (want to) know how kudzu performs its 'magic', but if i had to guess its not that impressive of a feat. Just creating a database of stuff like lspci and then comparing it at each bootup would allow the box to 'find' new hardware. Obviously, whoever is writing kudzu is maintaininga data base of quirks and features of each device as encountered. better he does, than I have to. But he's not doing such a great job of it. I've seen quite alot of hardware get mis-identified. Sour grapes Llllama, auto detection aint that tuff, hell, the unmentionable os has had it since 1995, so it's been a long time coming. If kudzu aint that good, there has to be a better one, real soon now. It's needed. I dunno. I realize this isn't the univeral answer, or the popular one, but i'm of the the school that i'd rather 'detect' and configure my own hardware. Makes for a much easier kernel building experience down the road. Now if kudzu was somehow extended so that it worked its 'magic' into a kernel config proces (auto-populating all the relevant choices), that would amaze me. Auto-Loading a tulip module is boring. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: background splash-screen, RH72 was Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:21, Myles Green wrote: OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. In Ok, wizards. Since this is still all fresh in your mind, i have an annoying problem with the KDE user login screen (RH72) I've set the background to something I want and it flashes briefly for 2 seconds or so, then gets overwritten by a Rehdat logo et al. Any clues folks where to look? Where did you change it? My guess is that whatevr you did was just a hack that gets called before the actual 'official' call to display a logog. Thus its getting squashed in the general order of things. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Intel compiler
--- Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4 is properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being exploited by this compiler. That said... I'll find out shortly if its' worth the salt. The curious thing is... they want $500.00 for the fully supported product... I don't know that this is their reasoning. Intel worked very closely with various OSS groups to make sure that their I64 had good support in Linux. I think Intel is just looking to make a buck. Keep in mind that even if the Intel compiler is faster, better etc than gcc, this isn't all that much of a coup. THe Portland Group has been putting out 'commericial' grade compilers that whip the GNU compilers in performance for years. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:15:35 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:04:27 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: noticing on the kde lists a lot of people complaining about ugly/messed up fonts after upgrading. seems that the new 4.2.0 of xfree86 contains new fonts and some old fonts have new names... watch out everyone I've been running XF86-4.2 for about 2.5 or 3 days now without any of the problems (touch wood) that have been brought up on the list lately. One thing I do that may be different is: I grab the MS webfonts from microsoft.com and mostly use those. For the record though, I do see some errors listed in the logs (I just looked now ;) pertaining to certain font paths and the disabling of the offending ones but it/they don't seem to be a problem here. Am I just lucky or what? Other than the weird problem that i am having going directly to RL5, 4.2.0 is running flawlessly for me as well. Must be a problem with GDM (you did say that was what you were using, correct?) because I use KDM when using RL5 and haven't had any problems. Is there a quick and dirty way for me to change to using GDM so I can check it out? There gotta be a way, I used to do it with Slackware all It really depends on which distro you're running. Unless you have Gnome installed, there is no quick or easy way to get gdm. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:02:50 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really depends on which distro you're running. Unless you have Gnome installed, there is no quick or easy way to get gdm. Yeah. Well, I would not have suggested it if I wasn't running something similar to you Lonnie... using RedHat 7.2 w/ gnome 1.4.1, kde 2.2.2 and xfce-3.8.14d. I mostly use XFce so I could care less which *DM I use... I'm just doing this to assist you in figuring out your problems. I'm running XFCE as well. I'm not 100% on what you need to do to switch login managers. I figured it out once a few months ago, but it was far from obvious. All i know is that i had to dig through the various shell scripts under /etc/X11/ to find it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. In /etc/sysconfig/desktop you'll find either DESKTOP=KDE or DESKTOP=GNOME, whichever one you have dictates which DM you get - KDE gets you KDM and GNOME gets you GDM. FWIW, I changed mine so I got GDM in RL5 and was able to login to XFce, the only thing I can find wrong is the system sounds are completely FUBAR'd (much like what unshielded sparkplug cables do for a car radio). So, now we need to figure out what's different with X between your system and mine... Did you build 4.2.0 from source, or install the binaries? Mine was from source. My system is mostly RH-7.1 stuff, with some older 6.2 here there, and a very small amount of 7.2 packages. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:08:20 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you build 4.2.0 from source, or install the binaries? Mine was from source. My system is mostly RH-7.1 stuff, with some older 6.2 here there, and a very small amount of 7.2 packages. I built 4.2.0 from source as well. My system is mostly RH-7.2 with any newer packages all built from source (into rpms and installed that way whenever possible). Did you reconfigure X after installing 4.2.0 or keep your old config? (I kept the old one myself) I'll send you whichever config files you'd like to see (off list) if you think it would help at all. I tried both my old XF86Config and then just for giggles, generated a new one. Both produced the same end result (X works, just not RL5). = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTopinions on hostway.com services?
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone? Are you talking about Colo hosting with your own box, or theirs? I've never heard of this company (not that it means much), so i think the details of the deal are what is critical. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Netscape and symbolic links
--- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just noticed a problem with netscape 6.2. When I try to open a file or look into a directory on my local computer, it will not do it if it involves following a symbolic link. I can go directly to the file, bypassing the link, and open the file with no difficulties. Has anyone seen this before? *sigh* Joel, what do you have against using Mozilla? This bug doesn't exist in Mozilla. __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Netscape and symbolic links
--- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have a new version of mozilla to run. I have no assurance it would compile and run on my machine, and I am getting too old and tired to Precompiled binary packages are readily available at ftp.mozilla.org. Tarballs for i686 and RPMs for i386. And, there are always unforeseen problems. Would my bookmarks transfer over? Yes. Mozilla automagically checks to see if you have a .netscape directory, and then offers to import bookmarks (assuming that you've never run mozilla as that user before). Anyway, netscape 6.2 has worked on every webpage I have tried so far EXCEPT the federal loan page for my son's school loan. That I had to use explorer IF you mean the dlservicer.gov site, it works just fine for me in Mozilla when i'm putzing with my $15k in educational loans. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha
--- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:04:27 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: noticing on the kde lists a lot of people complaining about ugly/messed up fonts after upgrading. seems that the new 4.2.0 of xfree86 contains new fonts and some old fonts have new names... watch out everyone I've been running XF86-4.2 for about 2.5 or 3 days now without any of the problems (touch wood) that have been brought up on the list lately. One thing I do that may be different is: I grab the MS webfonts from microsoft.com and mostly use those. For the record though, I do see some errors listed in the logs (I just looked now ;) pertaining to certain font paths and the disabling of the offending ones but it/they don't seem to be a problem here. Am I just lucky or what? Other than the weird problem that i am having going directly to RL5, 4.2.0 is running flawlessly for me as well. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:13,Tyler Regas scribed: I'm in for that. Just of note, I think we should find out where everyone lives first. Then we can decide on a globally neutral locale to give the largest number of members the best chance of actually showing up. Lets see if I can't get my mail server to take a collection :) Tyler Afganistan ?? There seems to be many Brits, Yanks and Oz people there at the moment. I think there is a definite lack of alcohol electricity, thus impeding an installfest. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: [Editors]OTinterest in an annual SxS get-together?
Sounds like a good idea, however the logistics involved would be HUGE, when you have a very geographically diverse group of people. My first vote would be Golden Gate Park :) --- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judging from the recent threads, I'm betting that everyone would be interested in my possibly renting out a park or something and everyone on these lists getting together? If ther's an interest, I can start looking into things for a get-together during Summer 2003. What does everyone think? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: New Address, Job OT
--- Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congrats and enjoy. Pittsburgh has some really nice night life and such. I think you'll have a good time. Where? I surely never found it in the 2.5 years I lived there. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: New Address, Job OT
--- Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where? I surely never found it in the 2.5 years I lived there. Well, I thought Valhalla and Foundry Ale were pretty nice. Those were down on the Strip (?). That area seemed okay, but if you lived there for a time you'd know better than I :) Feh. Maybe i'm just not a party animal. I've been to the strip on a bunch of occasions, and all i ever ran into were lots of drunken college kids. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's entirely different on Win. Windows doesn't ask me what my dot clock frequency is, doesn't ask me what my monitor horizontal freq is, vert freq and a dozen other technical details that I couldn't ultimately care less about. I just want it to work and Windows can accomplish that even though it doesn't even have a driver for this card. Windoze also won't let you set your resolution to 1820x1490, even if your hardware supported it. Also, good luck getting a dual headed setup in windoze. Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: snip Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh. You boot into safe mode and run 640x480 and fix it. Not ALL Windows problems require re-installing the O/S. In fact, Windows users re-install the O/S far more frequently than is required. Last I checked NT4 didn't have a safe mode. If some luser unintentionally (or otherwise) screwed the video settings, it was time to see how the blind use windoze. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
DVD drives: recommendations?
Greetings, I have the opportunity to acquire this DVD drive: http://www.hitachi.com/opstore/discont_prod/03dis_ramrom/disdvd_rom/halp-ZZZAR20RXSC.html Looking at the specs, to my untrained eyes, it looks like this beast can act as a 20x CDROM drive, as well as a DVD-ROM drive. My only understanding about DVD drives in Linux is that they are similar to CD burners, in that they are seen as SCSI devices (if the drive has an IDE interface on it). So, once I get the SCSI emulation bits inline, its just a matter of installing xine, and i'm good to go? Other than (obviously) needing a DVD drive, are there any videocard or soundcard requirements, or is anything fair game? TIA, Lonni = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: an interesting experience
--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh. All you gotta do is sit on your hands for 10 seconds and it will Nope. Not when the luser hits enter, effectively saying YES to the Does this look OK question. revert automatically to the previous (working) setting. That or use safe mode as someone pointed out. NT4 has no safe mode. Never tried a dual-head setup. It's supposed to work on W2k. Its worked with X for how many years?? I'm really not in the mode to continue this debate. I could spout off many more features that you get with X, that windoze still doesn't have, such as exporting remote displays, changing color depths on the fly, and so on so on. If you like the video performance in windoze so much, then use windoze. X meets my needs quite nicely. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Thanks
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn Williams babbled on about: Hi, Andrew: I got your message about cybermesa.com bouncing the mail. Thanks for sending that info. I've forwarded it to cybermesa and they are working with it. In the meantime, I went to the mailing list archives to see what mail I've missed, and when I finished one message in a thread, and attempted to move to the next one in the sequence, the site went down (apparently) because no matter which message I tried to read, I got a this page cannot be displayed error, even after reconnecting and re-navigating. I'm sending a CC: of this message to the list, so you will receive two copies of this. if this was this morning, it's my fault. A new grsecurity patch came out, so I installed it. then had to sit through the old 'drive has been mounted 20 times' fsck ;( linux.nf isn't using a journaling filesystem? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: Greetings, I built XFree86-4.2.0 from source this morning. I had been running XFree86-4.1.0 for several months. THe build went swimmingly in about 45 minutes. However, something isn't quite right somewhere, and i can't figure out why at the moment. If I attempt to switch to runlevel 5 from 3 X fails to start, and i got the ominous error on the console: id 'x' respawning too quickly, suspended for 5 minutes However, if i simply do a 'startx' at the console, X fires up without a single problem for any user (root others). In fact, i'm typing this in Mozilla on the afflicted box right now. So, my best guess is that something wacky is going on with gdm. BTW, this is box is running a very heavily altered version of Redhat. To add a few more data points, I looked in /var/log/XFree86.0.log and there were no errors at all. I looked at /var/log/messages, and there are no clues either. Anyone have any ideas on where I can poke around? XF86Config-4 or XF86Config This isn't a Caldera box, its Redhat, and I installed XFree86-4.1.0 from source as well. Could it be a font problem? Doubtful. Like i said, X fires up and runs just fine with 'startx'. It just bombs when trying to run gdm as it goes to runlevel 5. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had this too. found I had a typo in the /etc/profile file. A typo that wouldn't effect XFree86-4.1.0, but XFree86-4.2.0? Also, i haven't touched /etc/profile since 2/16/00. ALSO ONCE THE MONITOR SETUP IN THE /ETC/ZX11/XFCONFIG-4 FILE This isn't a Caldera box, is no /etc/X11/XFConfig-4 file (and there never was). This is a 100% pure, from source XFree86-4.x install. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right
All of the files in /etc/X11/gdm (including gdmrc) have not been changed in nearly a year. I just wish I had more of an error to go on than just that stupid respawning one. --- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you try xdm or maybe update gdm? Maybe something's wrong with gdm (as I grasp for another straw...) Is there anything wierd in you gdmrc file (if it exists -- I use kdm and it has a kdmrc file)? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking that your .xsession-errors file might contain a clue, but that doesn't come into play until you log in, I think... Correct. It IS possible that there's something specific to gdm and X 4.2.0 that's causing the problem. Because a file hasn't changed doesn't mean that something within it can't cause a problem with a new program. Yea, i agree. Unfortunately, since 4.2.0 has only been out a couple days, i doubt i'll find much info right now. I was hoping that someone else on the list might have had success with it gdm. When you issue startx from the command line, nothing in gdm affects X and it works for you. Entering runlevel 5 and using gdm causes you a problem. It seems logical that the problem is within gdm. Ayup. I rather doubted fonts and the config file (unless whatever command invokes gdm specifies a config file that has a problem within it), but threw them out as potential problem areas. The key here is that startx works fine, gdm doesn't. It might be worth trying another GUI login manager to see if the problem persists. If it does, you're back to square one. Yea, i guess i can switch to kdm or xdm. I'll give that a try tomorrow. Time to go home. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
OT Re: Hello here as well!
Linux, linux, linux, and llamas. --- Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tyler here as well. Thanks for the tip, Llama! So, what do we talk about here? -- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?
--- Mel Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: I like to be able to participate in this forum through the advertised news.linux.nf newsgroup, but I can't seem to find it (after looking on a couple of news servers). Is the newsgroup inactive? Do I need to point to a particular news server? Its the news.linux.nf news server, not newsgroup. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?
--- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:32:32 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the newsgroup inactive? Do I need to point to a particular news server? Um... news.linux.nf is the server not the newsgroup. HTH, Tim I just found this server and newsgroup. Is it an echo of the mailing list? Yup = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
way OT Adobe Premiere
Greetings, I've got a potential side job where someone is looking for me to build them a windoze box with Adobe Premiere installed on it. This person is looking to do some digital video editing of home movies. In all honesty, i've never used Premiere, but since this is windoze we're talking about i'm guessing that getting it installed requires hitting NEXT about 7 times. I don't have to teach the guy how to use Premeire just get the box up running. What I'm wondering is, are there any special gotchas or problems that I should be aware of going into this? TIA, Lonni = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: IHOP OT
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Wilson babbled on about: Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy. If I don't get there sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see the Brickyard 400 in August. Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a Hoosier nowadays. :-) not to spill the beans, but this ain't true anymore I'll leave it to Kurt to say more, but his Hoosier days are short-lived Kurt, spill them beans!!! = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: XFree86-4.2.0 released!
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama babbled on about: http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/changes_4_2.html ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/ Its out. Anyone yet attempted to build/install the massive download yet (either binary or source)? I'll be installing from source and taking notes on Tues Depending on how busy I am at work on Monday, I might give it a whirl (from source). = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: IHOP OT
--- Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2002 10 22:45 pm, Net Llama dropped these nuggets of information: Yea, my wife truly had an intense passion for IHOPs as well. We figured out that the nearest one to Pittsburgh was somewhere in northern Virginia, followed by one near Detroit, MI. Now that we've moved to California there are IHOPs all over the place, including 1 less than a mile from where we live. She's quite happy. An IHOP less that a mile, you all are lucky. I think there used to be one in Northern Kentucky, maybe closer to Lexington, a long time ago. I seem to remember passing it on our way to Florida on vacation as a kid. Its long gone though. I spied one in Tennessee on one of our many trips to the Smokies in the last couple of years though we have never stopped at it. Next time we go, I have to stop. If you check out www.ihop.com you can find where they all are. There are something like 30 IHOPs in the San Fran bay area. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
XFree86-4.2.0 released!
http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/changes_4_2.html ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/ Its out. Anyone yet attempted to build/install the massive download yet (either binary or source)? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
