Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-07 Thread kurt . wall

Typing furiously on February 06, Michael Hipp managed to emit:
 On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote:
  rpm --rebuild whatever-foo.src.rpm
 
  If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in
  /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/
 [snip]
   After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3?
 
  You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm
 
 As long as you'll indulge me, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks.
 
 Bear in mind that I'm on a hard-driving search for that holy grail of 
 files: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
 
 So which rpm would I do --rebuild on? I searched the rpm database and the 
 above lib file doesn't exist anywhere within. So how would rebuilding help?

On my Red Hat box, it comes from the gcc source rpm.

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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Net Llama

Try searching for 'libstdc' instead.  I did this just yesterday.


--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:22 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:23 pm, Michael Hipp warbled:
   Where would I come up with a libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and what
 would I
   do with it once I had it?
  
   I have a package to install that can't live without it. I'm
 running
   COLW 3.1.1.
 
  Go to rpmfind.net and search for a suitable rpm. Download it and
 install,
  do a ldconfig -v. Should be fine then.
 
 Thanks. I thought to look there. But searches turn up nothing of the
 sort.  
 Even a search on just 'libc6' turns up empty. A look at the alphabetic
 
 index starting with 'l' gets no farther than libstdc++- before the 
 entries turn into something else entirely. And the numbers bear no 
 resemblence to 1-2.so.3.
 
 Obviously I don't know what I'm doing. Any handholding appreciated.

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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp

But how do you then know which of the 188 items it lists will give you 
libc6.1-2.so.3?

Thanks,
Michael


On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:49 am, Net Llama wrote:
 Try searching for 'libstdc' instead.  I did this just yesterday.
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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Net Llama

Look at the contents of the RPM.  I'll note that you get a
libstdc++-libc RPM when you rebuild the gcc SRPM, which is prolly the
more prudent method of doing this anyway, otherwise you run the risk of
having incompatible libraries.

--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But how do you then know which of the 188 items it lists will give you
 
 libc6.1-2.so.3?
 
 Thanks,
 Michael
 
 
 On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:49 am, Net Llama wrote:
  Try searching for 'libstdc' instead.  I did this just yesterday.

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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp

I apologize for  being dense, truly. But how does a person ever figure this 
stuff out ...

So I start opening up one-at-a-time the 188 items on rpmfind.net looking 
for something that provides libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3?

Ok, I'm doing that (skipping around actually). I eventually stumble on this 
one:
ibstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.html
GNU C++ library
Mandrake Cooker
libstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm
That says it will provide above. All the funny (meaningless, to me) numbers 
match. Is a Mandrake Cooker compatible with my Caldera system. May as 
well be a Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker for the liklihood that I could 
figure that out on my own. Presumably this one is already compiled for 
Mandr and 586. So will it go in the right place if I snatch it? How does 
one know? Or should I keep looking - knowing I won't find one that mentions 
anything about Caldera?

And how exactly would I rebuild the gcc SRPM?. I've installed everything 
that came with COLW 3.1.1 (I think) do I have what is needed for that? 
After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3?

(Stops typing momentarily to scrape bits of greymatter off of monitor after 
brain exploded.)

Undoubtely this stuff is really, really easy once you know it. And there 
are now 5.2 quintillion people on this list who now realize I'm utterly 
stoopid.

All I really wanted was to install KHealthCare so I could monitor my CPU 
temp. (sigh) I probably have 6-8 hours into it by now. And I'm on the 4th 
package involved (none of which have installed according to the 
instructions).

Thanks for your help,
Michael

On Wednesday 06 February 2002 10:51 am, Net Llama wrote:
 Look at the contents of the RPM.  I'll note that you get a
 libstdc++-libc RPM when you rebuild the gcc SRPM, which is prolly the
 more prudent method of doing this anyway, otherwise you run the risk of
 having incompatible libraries.

 --- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But how do you then know which of the 188 items it lists will give you
 
  libc6.1-2.so.3?
 
  Thanks,
  Michael
 
  On Wednesday 06 February 2002 08:49 am, Net Llama wrote:
   Try searching for 'libstdc' instead.  I did this just yesterday.

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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Net Llama


--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I apologize for  being dense, truly. But how does a person ever figure
 this 
 stuff out ...

Time/experience/experimentation/the wise sages on this list.

 Ok, I'm doing that (skipping around actually). I eventually stumble on
 this 
 one:
 ibstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.html
 GNU C++ library
 Mandrake Cooker
 libstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm
 That says it will provide above. All the funny (meaningless, to me)
 numbers 
 match. Is a Mandrake Cooker compatible with my Caldera system. May

Mandrake Cooker stuff is basically Mandrake's dev box.  Its about as
compatible as is Redhat.  THe only 100% compatible RPMs are the ones
that Caldera builds.  Everything else is a crap shoot, but much less so
if you rebuild an SRPM, rather than installing the RPM that
company/person X built.

 And how exactly would I rebuild the gcc SRPM?. I've installed

rpm --rebuild whatever-foo.src.rpm

If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in
/usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/

 everything 
 that came with COLW 3.1.1 (I think) do I have what is needed for that?
 
 After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3?

You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm

 Undoubtely this stuff is really, really easy once you know it. And
 there 
 are now 5.2 quintillion people on this list who now realize I'm
 utterly 
 stoopid.

You're not stupid.  You're asking questions about stuff that you don't
understand.  Get in line, everyone does it (hell, i did it about 10
times in the past 24 hours).

 All I really wanted was to install KHealthCare so I could monitor my
 CPU 
 temp. (sigh) I probably have 6-8 hours into it by now. And I'm on the
 4th 
 package involved (none of which have installed according to the 
 instructions).

Well, if that's what you're trying to do, you're making it infinitely
harder than is neccesary.  Install lm-sensors instead.  Its what the
pros use to monitor temperature/fan speed/ etc in Linux.

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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Ian

Net Llama wrote:
 
 --- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I apologize for  being dense, truly. But how does a person ever figure
  this
  stuff out ...

SNIP
 
  Undoubtely this stuff is really, really easy once you know it. And
  there
  are now 5.2 quintillion people on this list who now realize I'm
  utterly
  stoopid.
 
 You're not stupid.  You're asking questions about stuff that you don't
 understand.  Get in line, everyone does it (hell, i did it about 10
 times in the past 24 hours).

Michael,

Lonni's right...if nobody's ever told you, and it's not obviously
documented in a manner/place for you to easily find it (as a non-guru
type), then it's not a stupid question.

We've all asked many, many questions that to someone on the list were
obvious...'cause they've done it, compiled it, configured it before now.

The fog is still clearing for me, after 2+ years of fairly intense
exposure to Linux.  Hopefully the sun will come out soon and burn the
rest off...until then...I'll keep askin' here.
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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp

On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:22 pm, Ian wrote:
 Lonni's right...if nobody's ever told you, and it's not obviously
 documented in a manner/place for you to easily find it (as a non-guru
 type), then it's not a stupid question.

Thanks.

Am I missing emails. I didn't see such a note from Lonni. Sometimes they 
arrive out of order and this one doesn't seem to have arrived at all. Am I 
the only one?

Michael
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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp

On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote:
 rpm --rebuild whatever-foo.src.rpm

 If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in
 /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/
[snip]
  After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3?

 You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm

As long as you'll indulge me, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks.

Bear in mind that I'm on a hard-driving search for that holy grail of 
files: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

So which rpm would I do --rebuild on? I searched the rpm database and the 
above lib file doesn't exist anywhere within. So how would rebuilding help?

Am I to download the src for that file beforehand?

Forgive if I'm missing your point.

 Well, if that's what you're trying to do, you're making it infinitely
 harder than is neccesary.  Install lm-sensors instead.  Its what the
 pros use to monitor temperature/fan speed/ etc in Linux.

Yes, I got lm_sensors working (eventually; you know you've got one when the 
INSTALL file is 275 lines). But in the process I stumbled across 
KHealthCare that depends entirely on lm_sensors but does it all in KDE. 
Just what the Dr ordered.

Michael

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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Net Llama

--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 February 2002 03:09 pm, Net Llama wrote:
  rpm --rebuild whatever-foo.src.rpm
 
  If all goes well, you end up with a binary RPM in
  /usr/src/OpenLinux/RPM/
 [snip]
   After I did that would I have libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3?
 
  You'll have an RPM named libstdc++-libc-foo-whatever-i386.rpm
 
 As long as you'll indulge me, I'll keep asking questions. Thanks.
 
 Bear in mind that I'm on a hard-driving search for that holy grail of 
 files: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3
 
 So which rpm would I do --rebuild on? I searched the rpm database and
 the 
 above lib file doesn't exist anywhere within. So how would rebuilding
 help?
 
 Am I to download the src for that file beforehand?

Yup.
*ALL* you should need if you want to go the SRPM route, is the gcc SRPM.
 That's where i got my copy of libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.

  Well, if that's what you're trying to do, you're making it
 infinitely
  harder than is neccesary.  Install lm-sensors instead.  Its what the
  pros use to monitor temperature/fan speed/ etc in Linux.
 
 Yes, I got lm_sensors working (eventually; you know you've got one
 when the 
 INSTALL file is 275 lines). But in the process I stumbled across 
 KHealthCare that depends entirely on lm_sensors but does it all in
 KDE. 
 Just what the Dr ordered.

I don't think the DR. ordered 8 hours of pain trying to compile a KDE
frontend for lm_sensors.  Its your time, so if you don't care about
spending alot of it fighting with various deps, then keep plowing through.

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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Hipp

On Wednesday 06 February 2002 07:51 pm, Net Llama wrote:
 --- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Am I to download the src for that file beforehand?

 Yup.
 *ALL* you should need if you want to go the SRPM route, is the gcc SRPM.
  That's where i got my copy of libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.

Ok, I went out to ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/OpenLinux311/Workstation/SRPMS 
and downloaded gcc-2.95.2-8.4.src.rpm. Is this what I want? Now if I do 
'--rebuild' to this I will have a binary .rpm that will contain my 
sought-after lib file?

 I don't think the DR. ordered 8 hours of pain trying to compile a KDE
 frontend for lm_sensors.  Its your time, so if you don't care about
 spending alot of it fighting with various deps, then keep plowing
 through.

True. But a big part of the purpose is to learn. And doing it on something 
disposable like a temp monitoring app seems low risk.

Best regards,
Michael
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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-05 Thread Keith Antoine

On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:23 pm, Michael Hipp warbled:
 Where would I come up with a libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and what would I do
 with it once I had it?

 I have a package to install that can't live without it. I'm running COLW
 3.1.1.

Go to rpmfind.net and search for a suitable rpm. Download it and install, do 
a ldconfig -v. Should be fine then. 
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18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161
Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage

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Re: Where to get libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Hipp

On Wednesday 06 February 2002 01:22 pm, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:23 pm, Michael Hipp warbled:
  Where would I come up with a libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and what would I
  do with it once I had it?
 
  I have a package to install that can't live without it. I'm running
  COLW 3.1.1.

 Go to rpmfind.net and search for a suitable rpm. Download it and install,
 do a ldconfig -v. Should be fine then.

Thanks. I thought to look there. But searches turn up nothing of the sort.  
Even a search on just 'libc6' turns up empty. A look at the alphabetic 
index starting with 'l' gets no farther than libstdc++- before the 
entries turn into something else entirely. And the numbers bear no 
resemblence to 1-2.so.3.

Obviously I don't know what I'm doing. Any handholding appreciated.

Michael
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