Re: [Linux-users] What I want from a package manager
On Mar 7, 2013 7:00 PM, Volker Kuhlmann list0...@paradise.net.nz wrote: It occurred to me a while ago that I want a package manager that will allow me to install software and data packages to my home directory as well as the system at large. Good reasons, but not possible. Packages are compiled for a certain location, and few applications support a runtime change of their location. Linux packages are by and large not built to relocate; one of the reasons is that it doesn't work. I see two options for you: Very valid point about the pre-compiled location expectations. chroot is a good option for this; if you have a Debian-based system look at debootstrap (which might look like overkill, but successful chroot is very difficult to generalise) -jim ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] What I want from a package manager
On Wed 06 Mar 2013 10:50:43 NZDT +1300, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: It occurred to me a while ago that I want a package manager that will allow me to install software and data packages to my home directory as well as the system at large. My main reasons are that: 0 I want to be able to have one user using unstable packages. 0 This could be useful to web store type services. 0 It seems over kill to give someone temporary root access to install a package that only one user will use. Good reasons, but not possible. Packages are compiled for a certain location, and few applications support a runtime change of their location. Linux packages are by and large not built to relocate; one of the reasons is that it doesn't work. I see two options for you: Fetch the source package and recompile after changing the location. Obviously this is pointless for anything needing root access. As Helmut said, crank up a VM. I recommend virtualbox, it's very easy to use, unlike that PITA vmware that never works out of the box and stops dead each time your distro updates the kernel. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[Linux-users] What I want from a package manager
It occurred to me a while ago that I want a package manager that will allow me to install software and data packages to my home directory as well as the system at large. My main reasons are that: 0 I want to be able to have one user using unstable packages. 0 This could be useful to web store type services. 0 It seems over kill to give someone temporary root access to install a package that only one user will use. Are there any managers support this? If not does anyone think that there could be enough demand to justify writing such a manager? -- Ryan McCoskrie North Canterbury, New Zealand http://sourcelinksnotes.comyr.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] What I want from a package manager
I suspect gentoo's emerge would allow this. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ryan McCoskrie ryan.mccosk...@gmail.comwrote: It occurred to me a while ago that I want a package manager that will allow me to install software and data packages to my home directory as well as the system at large. My main reasons are that: 0 I want to be able to have one user using unstable packages. 0 This could be useful to web store type services. 0 It seems over kill to give someone temporary root access to install a package that only one user will use. Are there any managers support this? If not does anyone think that there could be enough demand to justify writing such a manager? -- Ryan McCoskrie North Canterbury, New Zealand http://sourcelinksnotes.comyr.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] What I want from a package manager
As an alternative, you could clone the system into a virtual machine, and then make any of these one user modifications there. I have been doing this from time to time as a way to manage the risks around experimental system changes - if you mess it up or don't like the configuration, simply throw away the VM; no need to roll back by explicitly reverting changes. And I do acknowledge that this is not exactly what you were asking for... Kind regards, Helmut. On 6/03/2013 10:50 a.m., Ryan McCoskrie wrote: It occurred to me a while ago that I want a package manager that will allow me to install software and data packages to my home directory as well as the system at large. My main reasons are that: 0 I want to be able to have one user using unstable packages. 0 This could be useful to web store type services. 0 It seems over kill to give someone temporary root access to install a package that only one user will use. Are there any managers support this? If not does anyone think that there could be enough demand to justify writing such a manager? ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
