Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Tue 25 Oct 2011 17:21:56 NZDT +1300, Nick Rout wrote:

 I back up my office server to amazon s3 every night and get bills in
 the order of $0.19 (yes 19 cents) a month. For the hassle of pairing
 up with someone else, and ensuring their server is up when you want to
 back up, and vice versa, and their hard drive isn't about to die,

All OK reasons.

 that
 the data on theor machine is encrypted etc etc 

That is rather irrelevant, because you encrypt your data before sending
it off, which is no difference to Amazon really, and presumably dropbox.
If you run a lawyer's practice without encrypting data before it leaves
your office you shouldn't be allowed to hold a practicing license IMHO.
And to be clear, you do your own encryption, and don't rely on that
which may or may not be provided by any American company and which
evaporates into nothing as soon as their government feels like it.

Volker

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Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-25 Thread Roger Searle
On 25/10/11 17:21, Nick Rout wrote:
 I advocate having everything important stored *both* locally *and* on the 
 net.
 When done appropriately, I agree. Dropbox isn't for anything you want
 kept securely though.
 I've often thought of partnering with someone in a different city to
 mirror each others important data.

 I back up my office server to amazon s3 every night and get bills in
 the order of $0.19 (yes 19 cents) a month. For the hassle of pairing
 up with someone else, and ensuring their server is up when you want to
 back up, and vice versa, and their hard drive isn't about to die, that
 the data on theor machine is encrypted etc etc I think amazon provides
 a good solution.

 The advantage is that you can partner with someone you know and trust.

 yes, but I value the uptime and ease of use of amazon much more.

I'm an S3 fan too, once set up it's just a matter of reading an emailed 
log of what last night's cron job did.  To help speed the process of a 
restore to another site a sync back down can be performed now and then - 
doing that just now it took 10 minutes to get changed files since last 
week, could make it much quicker if it was run hourly.

Cheers,
Roger

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Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-24 Thread C. Falconer

On 10/20/2011 07:03 PM Dropbox said:
Dave Merrick wants you to try Dropbox! Dropbox lets you bring all your 
photos, docs and videos with you anywhere and share them easily.


Get started here 
http://www.dropbox.com/link/20.60a5P_JHEP/NjEzMTAxNzc2OTc?src=referrals_bulk9.


- The Dropbox Team




Call me an old fart - but there's something about put all your stuff on 
the net that I find inherently risky.


Guess I'm not part of the Share all the things! generation.

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Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-24 Thread yuri
Dropbox wrote:
 Dave Merrick wants you to try Dropbox! Dropbox lets you bring all your 
 photos, docs and videos with
 you anywhere and share them easily.

C. Falconer wrote:
 Call me an old fart - but there's something about put all your stuff on the 
 net that I find inherently risky.

Having lived through all that seismic stuff, I find having all my
stuff stored on premise risky too.

I advocate having everything important stored *both* locally *and* on the net.

Yuri

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Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-24 Thread yuri
On 25 October 2011 11:14, Roy Britten wrote:
 On 25 October 2011 10:59, yuri wrote:
 I advocate having everything important stored *both* locally *and* on the 
 net.

 When done appropriately, I agree. Dropbox isn't for anything you want
 kept securely though.

I've often thought of partnering with someone in a different city to
mirror each others important data.

The advantage is that you can partner with someone you know and trust.

Small, low-budget organisations could partner in this way to achieve
cheap reliable off-site back-ups.

 Also, spamming the list in order to get referral credits is in poor
 taste. Don't.

Agreed. I wasn't going to call the original poster in this, but if it
becomes a habit we'll have to call on the list admin to discipline the
offenders.

I can forgive a one-off transgression.

Yuri de Groot

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Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-24 Thread C. Falconer
David Lowe wrote, On 10/25/2011 10:45 AM:
 I'm with you Craig.. I just recently set up Chrome to synchronise all 
 my bookmarks ... and saved passwords... between the multiple machines 
 I use. It's terrific, but putting my personal stuff on someone else's 
 server makes me nervous. I cant bring myself to synchronise data as well.

Synching passwords is still as risky.  Always thinking of what if

 From an identity theif's point of view, a list of sites you use 
frequently is a good start too.

Its all about perceived risk.

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Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-24 Thread C. Falconer
yuri wrote, On 10/25/2011 10:59 AM:
 Having lived through all that seismic stuff, I find having all my 
 stuff stored on premise risky too.
 I advocate having everything important stored *both* locally *and* on the net.
Agreed, but on the net, under my own control rather than synched to some 
random freebie service.

Dave - did you read their TC at all?

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Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-24 Thread David Lowe
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:37 PM, C. Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nzwrote:



 Dave - did you read their TC at all?

 --


Yes I think it summarises down to 'Once we have your stuff, it's ours and we
can do what we like with it. But we wont give it to anyone else. Promise.'

So... nothing too senstive is stored up there, but the usefulness right now
overcomes my security fears.

This is also worth a read:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-reasons-to-be-wary-of-google-in-business/2789?tag=nl.e101

- D
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Re: [Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-24 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:42 AM, yuri yur...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 October 2011 11:14, Roy Britten wrote:
 On 25 October 2011 10:59, yuri wrote:
 I advocate having everything important stored *both* locally *and* on the 
 net.

 When done appropriately, I agree. Dropbox isn't for anything you want
 kept securely though.

 I've often thought of partnering with someone in a different city to
 mirror each others important data.


I back up my office server to amazon s3 every night and get bills in
the order of $0.19 (yes 19 cents) a month. For the hassle of pairing
up with someone else, and ensuring their server is up when you want to
back up, and vice versa, and their hard drive isn't about to die, that
the data on theor machine is encrypted etc etc I think amazon provides
a good solution.

 The advantage is that you can partner with someone you know and trust.


yes, but I value the uptime and ease of use of amazon much more.

 Small, low-budget organisations could partner in this way to achieve
 cheap reliable off-site back-ups.


Define cheap, how many hours will you take setting it up and maintaining it.

 Also, spamming the list in order to get referral credits is in poor
 taste. Don't.

 Agreed. I wasn't going to call the original poster in this, but if it
 becomes a habit we'll have to call on the list admin to discipline the
 offenders.

 I can forgive a one-off transgression.

 Yuri de Groot

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[Linux-users] Dave Merrick invited you to Dropbox

2011-10-20 Thread Dropbox
Dave Merrick wants you to try Dropbox! Dropbox lets you bring all your photos, 
docs and videos with you anywhere and share them easily.

Get started here: 
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