Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-31 Thread Borislav Petkov
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 07:50:19AM +, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > Now - basically all your argument is on Johannes's comment: > "deprecated enough". I think we have a chicken and egg problem here. > We can't break things towards userland. Good. But we do want to > deprecate this API because lot

RE: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-31 Thread Sujith Manoharan
Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > I don't see this as another datapoint. All it means is that there are ancient > drivers that won't work at all with newer tools and that are taken into > consideration while trying to deprecate an API. Not just drivers, tools and applications too. I don't think we can

RE: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Grumbach, Emmanuel
> > On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Larry Finger wrote: > > > > > If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert > > > > request to Linus for consideration. > > > > > > I wonder if the reaction would be like this one: > > > > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 > > > > > > :-) > > > > It wo

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Larry Finger wrote: > > > If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert request to > > > Linus for consideration. > > > > I wonder if the reaction would be like this one: > > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 > > > > :-) > > It would be a little like th

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Larry Finger
On 12/30/2014 03:23 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 09:41:41PM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote: If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert request to Linus for consideration. I wonder if the reaction would be like this one: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 :-)

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Borislav Petkov
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 09:41:41PM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote: > If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert request to > Linus for consideration. I wonder if the reaction would be like this one: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 :-) -- Regards/Gruss, Boris. Sent from a fa

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > You should also have the iw tool which will provide all you need > using the nl80211 interface which is now the preferred interface. There indeed is an iw tool. The thing is really as simple as -- userspace which is calling other wireless-utils d

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Grumbach, Emmanuel
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 16:21 +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote: > On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > > > > > So why do you used them? > > > > They have been deprecated for a couple of years now. You should be > > > > using nl80211 based tools such as iw. > > > > > > A couple of years is not v

RE: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote: > > > So why do you used them? > > > They have been deprecated for a couple of years now. You should be > > > using nl80211 based tools such as iw. > > > > A couple of years is not very long where userspace is concerned. > > > Well - the decently ne

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Emmanuel Grumbach wrote: > > I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s thinkpad, and > > wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 interface has no > > wireless extensions. > > So why do you used them? > They have been deprecated for a couple of

RE: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Grumbach, Emmanuel
> > On 12/30/2014 09:23 AM, Emmanuel Grumbach wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s > >> thinkpad, and wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 > >> interface has no wireless

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Peter Hurley
On 12/30/2014 09:23 AM, Emmanuel Grumbach wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s thinkpad, and >> wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 interface has no >> wireless extensions. >> > >

Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

2014-12-30 Thread Emmanuel Grumbach
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > Hi, > > I just booted current Linus' tree (5faa0154fe33) on my x200s thinkpad, and > wifi doesn't work. iwconfig is telling me that wlan0 interface has no > wireless extensions. > So why do you used them? They have been deprecated for a coup