I'm curious.  How does the SuSE license address running under VM?  Surely
they don't expect 11K/14K per image per engine?

What about running on small engines like Flex or P390 (or Hercules)?

Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek



                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                Sent:   Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:51 AM
                To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Subject:        Re: AW: New Suse Enterprise Server

                > costs:
                > 31bit version -> 11500  (11000$) per processor/engine!
                > 64bit version -> 14500  (14000$) per processor/engine!
                >
                > Thats not the philosophie of Linux.
                > I think they have to make their distribution avaiable for
free download!

                The free software parts of it have to give you the source
and the rights
                to redistribute and modify those bits if you have the
binaries. There is no
                obligation for free download of their changes in general
either - just that
                they supply them to anyone who gets a copy (and can then
give it to anyone
                else)

                So one person can buy a copy of SuSE, remove the proprietary
bits like YAST
                and do what they like with the free software parts. Mixed
free and
                proprietary software can be an insidious way to appear open
but keep customers
                locked down somewhat, this is also why so many of us
strongly dislike the
                IBM OCO modules.

                In a monopoly hardware enviroment like S/390 it gets quite
tricky. SuSE I
                suspect are concerned that if they just sold the release
without support
                then IBM would top load half of the real support cost onto
the new install
                cost of the hardware and undercut them savagely at what is
the actual value
                part of their work - the support side.

                Alan

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