Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* ramesh bios [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050301 08:19]: That's odd. My understanding might be lacking. I think the PIRQ table parser in 2.6.10 seems to work because it works when I use the normal BIOS. Sure normal BIOS does not provide ACPI instead? In such case, PIRQ stays mostly untouched.

Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Karlsson
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote: There are probably more sections that would be useful too. Technical jargon? I'm still a bit confused about what payload is and there's probably quite a few words/acronyms that are being used but it's hard to know exactly what they mean. Best regards Peter

RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread mark . wilkinson
Hi Ron, Andreas, Andreas, which version of LB where you looking at ? People still seem to be getting on ok with V1 and the HOW-TO I wrote some time ago. Which version of the EPIA are you using, is it the original EPIA or one of the other version (ie EPIA-M, EPIA-MII etc) ? If it's the EPIA, I may

Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Karlsson
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Bryan E. Chafy wrote: Although one gotcha would be anything that's timing related. Memory/IO access proxied through the serial port would also be orders of magnatude slower. When the DRAM test completes, we'll all be dead :) Also, rom bios code memory references would have to

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread ramesh bios
Good point. I did not know about ACPI. Ok, looking through the source, I don't see ACPI in the gx1 code. So I presume that this means that LinuxBIOS doesn't provide ACPI support in the case of the Geode. Would I be able to test if Linux 2.6.10 is able to parse the normal BIOS' PIRQ table by

Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Karlsson
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Anton Borisov wrote: Payload is file that holds, for instance, LAN ROM, i.e. software responsible for remoting loading from server. It's just an example. There are FAQs (try to google) which explain much of your questions. LinuxBIOS (initialises hardware) - payload

RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread Andreas Thienemann
Hi Mark, On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas, which version of LB where you looking at ? People still seem to be getting on ok with V1 and the HOW-TO I wrote some time ago. I tried the Linuxbios 1 version together with the howto. Which version of the EPIA are you using, is it

RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread mark . wilkinson
Hi Andreas Quoting Andreas Thienemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Mark, On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas, which version of LB where you looking at ? People still seem to be getting on ok with V1 and the HOW-TO I wrote some time ago. I tried the Linuxbios 1 version together with the

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* ramesh bios [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050301 12:22]: Would I be able to test if Linux 2.6.10 is able to parse the normal BIOS' PIRQ table by booting linux with acpi=off? If it does work at that point, then I could assume that the area to be fixed would be the PIRQ table generation in LinuxBIOS. If

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Richard Smith
And if that were done, Linux would not need to parse a PIRQ table, yes? LinuxBIOS does not do that, it provides the tables and requires the OS to do so. I've found that Linux up to 2.6.9 (I haven't tested .10) Dosen't do this fully. With my 440bx chipset there are config registers in

Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Stuge
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 10:36:35AM +0100, Peter Karlsson wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote: There are probably more sections that would be useful too. Technical jargon? I'm still a bit confused about what payload is and there's probably quite a few words/acronyms that are being

Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Stuge
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 12:44:23PM +0100, Peter Karlsson wrote: LinuxBIOS (initialises hardware) - payload (etherboot,OpenBIOS, FILO etc.) (- operating system)? Exactly right. But with the right flash memory on the mainboard you can use the operating system (Linux) as payload directly. Ok,

Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote: There are probably more sections that would be useful too. Technical jargon? I'm still a bit confused about what payload is and there's probably quite a few words/acronyms that are being used but it's hard

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, ramesh bios wrote: That's odd. My understanding might be lacking. I think the PIRQ table parser in 2.6.10 seems to work because it works when I use the normal BIOS. no, it's messy. Some bioses set IRQ settings that don't agree with their own PIRQ tables. I've seen

RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas, which version of LB where you looking at ? People still seem to be getting on ok with V1 and the HOW-TO I wrote some time ago. Which version of the EPIA are you using, is it the original EPIA or one of the other version (ie EPIA-M,

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote: Would I be able to test if Linux 2.6.10 is able to parse the normal BIOS' PIRQ table by booting linux with acpi=off? no, the problem is that the BIOSes we have seen in some cases just assign a bunch of IRQs, and ignore their own tables. Hence, the

Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote: To get more people interested in linuxbios one has to lower the bars, and technical jargon is a major blocker (at least for me). And yes, I do know what i2c is, and I think I know what spd is (ram speed?) but vid did does not ring a bell. For

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote: I've found that Linux up to 2.6.9 (I haven't tested .10) Dosen't do this fully. With my 440bx chipset there are config registers in the northbridge that control which IRQ line each of the PCI PIRQ lines are routed to. Even with a proper PIRQ table

wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I have started to bring over content to the wiki. Those who have logins -- you can see my formatting is not that great in the FAQ, fixers welcome. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org

RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread Alan Mimms
So would someone who DOES have an account please edit the login page to put a mailto link there to allow users to at least know that the UI on that page isn't as described in the error you get when you try to create an account the way the page says to do so? It's guaranteed to be an FAQ which

RE: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Alan Mimms wrote: So would someone who DOES have an account please edit the login page to put a mailto link there to allow users to at least know that the UI on that page isn't as described in the error you get when you try to create an account the way the page says to

Re: new free software foundation crusade: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread Richard Smith
So would someone who DOES have an account please edit the login page to put a mailto link there to allow users to at least know that the UI on that page isn't as described in the error you get when you try to create an account the way the page says to do so? It's guaranteed to be an FAQ

port guides

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I've moved the three port guides over. Antony's is really good, but sadly is for v1. The EPIA one is good for V2. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Li-Ta Lo
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 08:52, Ronald G. Minnich wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote: To get more people interested in linuxbios one has to lower the bars, and technical jargon is a major blocker (at least for me). And yes, I do know what i2c is, and I think I know what spd

Re: new free software foundation crusade:http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread Li-Ta Lo
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 22:28, Ronald G. Minnich wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The names (type nos) of motherboards are very region dependent and boards with same parts will have different nos depending on the region and manufacturer. Why not add the chipset partnums to

Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Li-Ta Lo
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 10:32, Ronald G. Minnich wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote: Probably we should seriously consider writing the Users Manual and Programmer's Manual as I mentioned before? yes, it has to be done. ron Ron, Do I have to right to distribute my FREENIX '05

Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote: Do I have to right to distribute my FREENIX '05 paper? If I can, should I put it on the wiki? yes. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Li-Ta Lo
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 10:45, Ronald G. Minnich wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote: Do I have to right to distribute my FREENIX '05 paper? If I can, should I put it on the wiki? yes. even the copyright is assigned to USENIX.org? Ollie ron

Re: Fw: Re: Documentation [was: new FSF campaign ..]

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote: even the copyright is assigned to USENIX.org? yes, AFAIK you can still post it. I post all my usenix pappers. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org

Can any one ID this board?

2005-03-01 Thread Adam Talbot
Well, I have been googling this board for the last 2 day's and have found nothing. Can any of your guys ID this board? Or perhaps point me in the right direction. I put the BIOS into my programer and grabed a copy of the ROM, but that has given me no new information. I am looking for the pin

Re: Can any one ID this board?

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
don't know, but it sure looks like yer basic geode board to me. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: AMD Opteron D0 support

2005-03-01 Thread Greg Lindahl
Any one got D0 Opteron? Actually it turns out that we have 6 of them -- what would you like to know? -- greg ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
This page is improving so quickly you almost need a video camera to watch it! Thanks to all of you who have contributed today. It's just fantastic! ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org

Re: wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Bari Ari
What's the status on getting an account password? Who do you have to know? -Bari Ronald G. Minnich wrote: This page is improving so quickly you almost need a video camera to watch it! Thanks to all of you who have contributed today. It's just fantastic! ron

Re: wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Bari Ari wrote: What's the status on getting an account password? Who do you have to know? -Bari me or stepan. You want one bari? ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org

Re: wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Li-Ta Lo
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:46, Ronald G. Minnich wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Bari Ari wrote: What's the status on getting an account password? Who do you have to know? -Bari me or stepan. You want one bari? Stephan, How do I put a PDF file there? Or a hierachy of html files?

VIA chips

2005-03-01 Thread Brian G. Rhodes
Does anyone here happen to know if VIA works with smaller companies who want to create reference designs using thier processors and bridge chips? Or only larger motherboard manufacturers. ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org

wiki.linuxbios.org update

2005-03-01 Thread Adam Talbot
-Ron Love the new page. As I do not have edit permissions, but would like to help, here is the specs for the Via board's to put under your (Unfinished re-organization: Supported Motherboards) section. You may need to do a little formatting, but they should be for the most part, copy and paste.

Re: Can any one ID this board?

2005-03-01 Thread Geoffrey McRae
Does anybody know of a source for these in Australia, I would love to get my hands on one or two to play with Geoff don't know, but it sure looks like yer basic geode board to me. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org

Re: Can any one ID this board?

2005-03-01 Thread Adam Talbot
don't no of a source, or even who makes that board. - Original Message - From: Geoffrey McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ronald G. Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov Cc: Adam Talbot [EMAIL PROTECTED]; linuxbios@clustermatic.org Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:30 PM Subject: Re: Can any one ID this

Re: wiki.linuxbios.org update

2005-03-01 Thread Justin C. Darby
This is beautiful. I'll add it right away. Justin Adam Talbot wrote: -Ron Love the new page. As I do not have edit permissions, but would like to help, here is the specs for the Via board's to put under your (Unfinished re-organization: Supported Motherboards) section. You may need to do a little

Re: wiki.linuxbios.org update

2005-03-01 Thread Adam Talbot
Thank you Justin -Adam - Original Message - From: Justin C. Darby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Talbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ronald G. Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov; linuxbios@clustermatic.org Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:35 PM Subject: Re: wiki.linuxbios.org update This is beautiful. I'll

Re: wiki.linuxbios.org

2005-03-01 Thread Justin C. Darby
I will be establishing web storage space for files (originally for myself, but I can make it available to others). If you need space, I'm going to configure websites like: http://linuxbios-wiki-resource.windex.org/username/ that are intended for use by wiki maintainers to publish binaries, PDF

Re: Can any one ID this board?

2005-03-01 Thread Geoffrey McRae
I am not worried if its not That board, just any embedded board that would be good for an experimenter like myself. don't no of a source, or even who makes that board. - Original Message - From: Geoffrey McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ronald G. Minnich rminnich@lanl.gov Cc: Adam Talbot

Re: Can any one ID this board?

2005-03-01 Thread ramesh bios
Hey Adam, I think it's a typical geode gx1 board as well. I'm no expert. But here are my guesses. VGA is typically 16 pins. LPT is typically on a 26 pin header. Serial ports typically on 10 pin headers. Keyboard/Mouse typically on one 6 pin header. I think I see parallel port at the horizontal

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread ramesh bios
Strike that. The issue is somewhere with copy_pirq_routing_table. IE: why does the copy to f fail. I had assumed that the 500 address was an alternate location that the table was copied to. So now, I'm looking at that f000 failure. --- ramesh bios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The URL for the

Re: wiki.linuxbios.org update

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
Yes, Justin Darby did a GREAT job of fixing up the FAQ, btw. ron ___ Linuxbios mailing list Linuxbios@clustermatic.org http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote: Strike that. The issue is somewhere with copy_pirq_routing_table. IE: why does the copy to f fail. I had assumed that the 500 address was an alternate location that the table was copied to. So now, I'm looking at that f000 failure. the copy to

Re: Geode GX1 and IRQ tables

2005-03-01 Thread ramesh bios
1. Shadow RAM I guess I would need to find a way to tell the northbridge to enable shadow RAM for some range around f. I looked through the CS5530A datasheet and see shadow registers but no mention of shadowing RAM. Nor in the GX1 datasheet either. I'm looking for some register in either the

Re: new free software foundationcrusade:http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html

2005-03-01 Thread sherlock
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 23:04, Li-Ta Lo wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 22:28, Ronald G. Minnich wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The names (type nos) of motherboards are very region dependent and boards with same parts will have different nos depending on that actually

Re: Porting Linuxbios to Via P4m266A

2005-03-01 Thread sherlock
Hi all, Just recieved the spec sheet for ProSavageDDR P4M266 VT8751 P4 DDR SMA North Bridge. Bad news is that I am not supposed to disclose it without permission (as per the Copyright notice). At this point I have recieved the manual without any NDA although the manual says Confidential NDA