On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Antony Stone wrote:
Can anyone advise me where to get hold of the Millennium DoC devices to
create a LinuxBios boot chip ? I can't find anything in the FAQ or the
mailing list archive (which seems surprisingly new - I thought the project
had been going for quite some
I'm trying to figure out how to correctly set up the e7500 MTD.
This includes the ICH 2 support (fixes from Eric) and the 82802ab part
which is not compatible with anything but an 82802ab :=)
I have MTD debugging enabled and set to level 3.
2 weird things: 1, I never get any debug output and
some output from printks I added:
init_ich2rom Found: 0x8086 0x2480
ich2rom: set 0x4e to 0x1
ich2rom: val 0x4e IS NOW 0x1
ioremap 0xff00 size 0x100 result 0xf886d000
it finds the part
it sets the 0x4e register to 1 for enabling write
hey! same register as the piix4e -- think
Would anyone object to having cvs mail forwarded to this list?
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The CVS mail would be the output from cvs for committs to linuxbios. We
have this enable on several other mailing lists and it is very handy.
I think the overall opinion is mixed at best, so we'll wait to see who
else puts in their $.02
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OK, if I do the equivalent of:
setpci -s 0:1f.0 4e.b=1
Then writes are enabled. Note you can't really do this due to a bug in the
pcitools == have to do it by program.
Then, if I run flash_rom, jedec_probe will get an ID of the 82802AB of
vendor 89, device code AD (4 mbit part)
So flash_rom
for PIRQ, you run the program in freebios/util called getpir, which writes
a file called irq_tables.c. You have to run this on the standard bios.
Copy that file into the mainboard directory. In the mainboard Config file
add the line:
option HAVE_PIRQ_TABLE=1
and you should be fine.
Try to make
I just committed the changes so that flash_rom can burn the 82802ab parts.
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I can confirm that HOT PLUG AND PLAY works with 82802ab parts, even
though they have CLOCK etc. that normal flash does not.
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one thing --- we'd rather have it sooner now with imperfections -- Steve,
I thought your changes looked really good.
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you are very close. The DoC is very frustrating and has caused trouble for
MTD (just ask David Woodhouse :-)
You need to NOT use the single driver mode of DoC.
So my config looks like this for the kernel
#
# Self-contained MTD device drivers
#
# CONFIG_MTD_PMC551 is not set
# CONFIG_MTD_SLRAM
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Peter Stuge wrote:
Maybe put the DoC on the ISA bus? Will require a special LinuxBIOS PCB but
only when you really want/need DoC..
probably too expensive, in fact in proposals I have seen it cost more than
the motherboard!
ron
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, Steve M. Gehlbach wrote:
The mobo won't support two IDE devices? or is it a physical issue?
We would need a special cable I think for the IDE-FLASh devices I have
seen. but doable.
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Steve M. Gehlbach wrote:
But CF is probably better if you need lots of size, although I have also
been thinking about using a raw partition on the hard disk. Has anyone
tried this? The idea is to put vmlinux.bin.gz in hda1 (raw, using dd),
which is say, 10MB. You know
Anybody out there know how to make the second IDE channel come up on this
thing?
On the pcm-5823 boards, the secondary IDE is never seen by Linux. I think
there has to be a setting somewhere, I just don't know what!
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send an lspci and we will be able to tell.
Thanks
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On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Gregg C Levine wrote:
Can a list be drawn up of so called, known
good boards?
It's on my todo for this week. Hope I get to it ...
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I agree with the comments on the difficulty of getting this stuff up --
it's not for your average user.
Long term, the goal is that motherboard vendors just deliver boards with a
working linuxbios. SiS pioneered this over a year ago. cwlinux.com does
the same thing. Linux NetworX is delivering
I have been on other things for a while but had a chance to look at this
again.
Recap: on the smartcore P3, etherboot 5.0.7 fails because all inw()
operations return 0. Two inw()s in a row sometimes return the right value
on the second one.
I thought this might be a memory config problem so I
We're building a 1024-node linuxbios cluster with Dual-P4 systems and
Myrinet. No disks on the nodes. Single System Image via bproc. Monitoring
with Supermon. Plus lots of other stuff we hope to be showing in the next
year. LNXI is the vendor.
In other words, the idea we had 3 years ago has now
I think if you want this to go it's going to have to be you that does it.
Sorry.
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On 23 Sep 2002, Christopher Stutts wrote:
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:34, Ronald G Minnich wrote:
So, back to the original issue: inw operations acting wrong. The first
inw() always reads 0, the seconds reads what looks like the right value.
Anybody have an idea on what kind of north/south
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Steve M. Gehlbach wrote:
I traced the code to the machine_restart sub in arch/i386/kernel/process.c.
It seems that linux tries to reset using a keyboard command (out 0xfe,0x64)
and if that fails it forces a triple fault. Neither seem to work. I tried
setting b0 of reg
steve, my power patches are a bit cleaner than that, if you want to take a
look.
They actually suggest a framework for this kind of thing but the WDT stuff
came along and it makes a bit more sense.
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On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Bob Drzyzgula wrote:
Not that the 3.5GB thing is a surprise, but what chipset
were they talking about?
760 mpx I think.
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I like the idea of pulling the blob code into linuxbios, then we get a
standard.
Is there a recommended xscale development card?
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If you have the specs from Transmeta and ALI, it will probably be as
much work as any other port. I wish you success in getting the specs out
of them though.
I now have the transmeta specs and they have agreed to a port.
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Karthik Bala Guru wrote:
i read from a pdf that linuxbios supports just
two motherboards . Is it true ?
what pdf?
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Karthik Bala Guru wrote:
If linuxbios boots other linux ... then it should
act as a BIOS and boot rtlinux ??? am i correct
till now ?
sure.
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Bari Ari wrote:
And what filesystem are they using for this? Surely its not NFS!
Must be some sort of cluster filesystem no? Anyone know? Something open
sourced? What decent clustre filesystems are out there?
NFS is dead for clusters.
We are targeting three possible
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Gregg C Levine wrote:
Ron, about the v9fs project. I am impressed. It looks like a good
project. I might even try the code in any of my projects. So? What did
kill NFS for clusters? Just for fun, try the v9fs in the first cluster
that starts life at your shop.
thanks.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Ian Molton wrote:
Can I use LinuxBIOS on an ASUS A7M ?
I forget the chipset, so I don't know.
how do you tweak settings like CAS latency / things like that when using
LinuxBIOS ?
carefully :-)
you can't just change CAS on the fly. If you do, RAM stops working.
SDRAM
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, David Xiong wrote:
I have Linuxbios boot from DOC successfuly. But I can not get my
2-channel-video-monitor-card up.
When I load the driver, it shows
PCI: No IRQ Known for interrupt pin A of device 02:04.0. Please try using
pci=biosirq
The driver can not get IRQ,
I think the right guy to talk to here is Andrew Ip.
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Steve M. Gehlbach wrote:
You need to make and run the program util/getpir (using the original BIOS,
running Linux) to make the file irq_tables.c, then copy that file into the
mainboard directory, and set the option HAVE_PIRQ_TABLE=1. Linuxbios when
it starts will copy
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Ronald G Minnich wrote:
It is not faster. But it is faster to load a kernel from linux while the
^ DoC
slow IDE spins up. Then once the kernel is in there it can go to IDE.
ron
first, what chipset?
second, the ide spinup patch is pretty universal.
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this is because you need the ide patch for enabling the IDE in linuxbios.
see the rr2 mainboard. I am on travel but once I get back I will try to
show you an example of how to do this.
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Steve M. Gehlbach wrote:
CF is less than 1/2 the price of DOC, so I have never really understood why
DOC became popular.
because the doc chip was a transparent replacement for the BIOS chip.
That's the only reason.
OUr 1024-node cluster uses CF in the primary IDE slot.
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Q-ha Park wrote:
hmm, you mean there's an additional patch to ide.c, which is already used to
build linuxBIOS, not in the source tree?
no, it's a south bridge patch. see the southbridge code. Or wait until
tomorrow when I get back :-)
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, David Xiong wrote:
RedHat 7.2 , the kernel is 2.4.7-10 distributed by RedHat.
wow. That's an old one.
I realize this may not fix the problem, but I would still recommend you
move to 2.4.18 or 2.4.19. Much better.
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Is the config file generator on the linuxbios web site going to be
updated with the latest working boards? At this moment, it doesn't seem
to be working... Thanks in advance for your time!
we're having to redo that. There are over 50 boards now and it is proving
unworkable to do things
my very nice $600 non-Windows PC from Walmart is a deal.
The chipset is SiS for P4 SDRAM Hey, Ollie, where is the
port?
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Todd E. Johnson wrote:
Gotta mailing list archives... I take it that I should rebuild the
kernel w/ CONFIG_MTD_DOCPROBE_HIGH ?
I guess so :-)
In general, I'm not very good with MTD yet :-(
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Todd E. Johnson wrote:
I am able to boot and get X up. It takes about 45 seconds, which is not
bad, but it is a bit more than I was expecting. sshd takes up a bit of
this time though. I have most everything else disabled.
I assume this is redhat 7. The slowness of the
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Todd E. Johnson wrote:
BTW, it seems that there is no booting action (Based on the Serial
output) until the HDD spins up. Is this a result of me keeping my root
file system on the HDD?
you can't do anything until the HDD spins up, and yes it's because you've
god file
something like 50 boards supported right now.
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why not give us some product links for examples. Also the names confuse me
so what is the format (size) of mini-tx. Smaller than PC/104?
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re that code you just sent a patch for ... it disables cache before doing
MTRR settings for fixed MTRRs. My memory is that long ago that code was in
there; or was it somewhere else; or did it get removed?
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I've just added andrew ip of cwlinux.com as a developer on linuxbios.
Please welcome Andrew, he has been a real supporter and helped a lot with
the SiS platforms, as well as running a company that sells linuxbios
mainboards.
Andrew, go ahead and apply those patches you posted in the last two
I strongly recommend you just buy one pre-installed with linuxbios to
start. See cwlinux.com
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On 8 Oct 2002, Eric W Biederman wrote:
But I believe the FreeBSD kernel uses vm86 mode and makes x86 BIOS calls
which LinuxBIOS does not implement. It should just be a matter of modifying
the BSDs to not make x86 BIOS calls and instead read the LinuxBIOS table.
yup. That's the state of
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Billy Mullins wrote:
What are the factors that play into whether or
not you can use LinuxBIOS out of the box(maybe
that is in a faq somewhere)? For example, just
the chipset, strange motherboard quirks, etc...
send me an lspci.
Dell has not been helpful however.
I
Neil has a very interesting point, and it does bring up the cache as ram
issue again.
Neil, my only question is, did you test this MTRR approach on lots of
CPUs. My impression is that it is not guaranteed to work.
thanks
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I start pci memory space at 0x and work backwards.
that sounds good.
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I don't know anything about that chipset, is there a URL?
What is it used in?
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It has a problem getting to flash, but it actually got worse. It doesn't
see the flash disk at all in this version.
To sum up:
fallback + rc4.eb5 -- finds disk, boots it automatically
normal + rc4.eb5 -- type 'D' to it, then it finds disk and boots
normal + rc5 -- never finds the disk,
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Adam Sulmicki wrote:
cvs-freebios/freebios/src/pc80/keyboard.c
Ollie, didn't KM Liu tell us how that was done?
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Mark Weinstein wrote:
Does anyone have any specific info on teh RLX 800i port of LinuxBIOS?
I have the immediate need to get one of these blades up and running
with Etherboot, but would like a little more information.
We did that work here and I have a 6-node 800i rack
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Dave Dworin wrote:
I doubt if CF is reliable to replace IDE disks. I own a CF digital camera
and have experienced data loss. It seems that data loss/file corruption is
quite common on CF. Any different experience?
I don't think your sample set is really exhaustive enough
So how about a
CONFIG_UPX
to turn that feature on and off? sound reasonable?
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Here, based on input, is the mainboard status file format. Comments
welcome!
If I don't hear any more ideas I will put this out today or monday.
# These are keyword-value pairs.
# a : separates the keyword from the value
# the value is arbitrary text delimited by newline.
# continuation, if
On 21 Oct 2002, ollie lho wrote:
On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 01:55, Ronald G Minnich wrote:
gcc ... -o mptable.o
/home/rminnich/src/linuxbios-p4dpr-1.0.0.8/freebios/src/mainboard/supermicro/p4dpe/mptable.c
/home/rminnich/src/linuxbios-p4dpr-1.0.0.8/freebios/src/mainboard/supermicro/p4dpe
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Mark Weinstein wrote:
I read the the LinuxBIOS supports the Tyan S2462UNG and the Tyan S2462UNGM,
however, being that I do not need SCSI support, will it also support the
Tyan S2462NG ? It definitely seems to be the same motherboard without the
SCSI support.
I think
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Andrew Ip wrote:
I just found some newer m758lr+ has different irq table from the old one.
How should we take care of different version of the same board?
This is so messy. I wonder if we shouldn't have a compile-time option?
CONFIG_IRQTABLE_1
CONFIG_IRQTABLE_2
then in
This board will be a good fit. Plus lmco builds cool gear so we'll make
sure you get it going, as long as I can get a poster of whatever it flies
in :-)
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On 11 Oct 2002, Eric W Biederman wrote:
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I'm trying to get LinuxBIOS working on a SMP xeon board:
http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/GC_LE/P4DL6.htm
oops, dale, sorry! I blew it! I totally misread the chipset type.
Serverworks, we just
Another good thing to do is to learn how to use the dump_northbridge .inc
file. For an example see the 430tx port. You can dump northbridge state
as you configure it, so that you can see if you are making errors.
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On 11 Oct 2002, Eric W Biederman wrote:
Was this before or after we had the LinuxBIOS table?
long before, maybe they would reconsider?
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On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, David Barr wrote:
- Can I do the three-step (DOC - CF - HDD) boot?
If you have CF, I don't think you need DOC
I think this is a great project.
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Maintaining mainboard status has been a pain in the neck from the
beginning, and as the number of mainboards has grown it has gotten harder
and harder.
Here is what I would like to do: for each src/mainboard/vendor/board,
e.g. src/mainboard/tyan/guiness, I want to have a file called STATUS. In
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Steve M. Gehlbach wrote:
I would suggest adding some information related to how or what booting modes
have been tested, ie, DOC, IDE, etherboot, floppy, and with what console,
serial, VGA, etc. In some cases the memory type or position (slot#) matters
too.
done.
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I could just make a field called links?
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, CMZ wrote:
Just an Idea, Exact revision(s) of mainboards tested might be needed.
done
thanks, that was important!
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On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Dave Jones wrote:
Simple fix :
printk_debug(%s\n, __FUNCTION__);
Yep I know about this. It's just that there are usages that won't work
this way -- macros that count on being able to use standard C string
concatenation. I'm not the only person using these, there are
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Jack Perdue wrote:
which would imply (without actually RingTFM) the
proper replacement would be __func__
no, unfortunately, what that means is that __FUNCTION__ is no longer a
string literal. Bummer.
But fixable with enough work.
ron
On 17 Oct 2002, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
gdtaddr:
.word gdt_limit /* the table limit */
.long gdt /* we know the offset */
I'll have to look, and find gdt_limit. This all started with gdt_limit
undefined :-)
thanks, Eric. I will try to get this one fixed
OK eric I see what you're up to with the upx. Interesting.
I'll try to get further tomorrow :-)
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So upx is definitely worth it, right? Unless I misread it the decompressor
is assembly. We have a PPC port going on. I do see the 2-1 compression but
in 256KB we have oodles of room (with etherboot), so I'm just trying to
make sure the added complexity in the build is something we want.
Is it
On 21 Oct 2002, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
Personally I think booting from a local hard driver is a less
manageable way to do things. I have booted a 1000 node cluster over
the network in under a minute.
yep.
The DOC has 8MByte of space, yes. I don't use it and I don't see the
need you can
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, David H. Barr wrote:
1) I'm assuming the name of the mainboard itself will be the status
file name. Or will that only be contained in mainboard-revision?
No, the name is always STATUS, but it's location is in
src/mainboard/vendor/mainboard-name, so that is how it is
On 19 Oct 2002, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
I have trouble seeing designs with an onboard microcontroller as sane.
Agree 100%. That's what we keep telling vendors too.
The worst thing I've seen lately is a board with 2 K8s, and a PPC running
hardhat Linux for maintenance. That's just nuts.
ron
OK, it turns out one change involves structure packing.
I'm not sure of the others, but I have confirmed that 3.2 will not
build a working linuxbios and 2.96 will (on Redhat 8.0). The problems are
in the MP table creation and/or parsing.
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Those of you who own a mainboard, put your name in and set in the details,
and either commit or send me the corrected file.
I'll try to work up the little script to create a status page next week.
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On 26 Oct 2002, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
I have the mptable for the p4dpe I have hear, that is mcr, and that I
know works. My memory is that it was substatially similiar to the p4dpr
it just had more interrupts.
OK I will compare and see. I'll just build for dpe and see what happens.
ron
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Andrew Ip wrote:
LinuxBIOS does work with LTSP. I have tested it with m758 and m810 boards.
what failed? I have been talking to the ltsp guys for a while about doing
this; what's missing?
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I just built a working bios from the cvs tree for P4DPR!
This is the normal, not the fallback.
I might just take the final step ... once I resolve the etherboot
problems.
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Andrew Ip wrote:
LinuxBIOS does work with LTSP. I have tested it with m758 and m810 boards.
Ron can'g read!
So andrew I know you have lots of spare time but can you give me a hint of
what you did for LTSP? etherboot?
thanks
ron
This is great.
Our little lnxi cluster is totally supported from CVS. Many thanks to Eric
for the port, and to Steve James who shook out some final nits.
Also, note that Steve James has integrated the Intel motherboard into
LinuxBIOS as well.
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Oh, duh. The difference is:
make bin32/ide_disk.elf
Sorry! Should have tried that :-(
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If somebody has the time and could write a nice HOWTO I think the ltsp
guys would be interested. I talk to them every once in a while and we all
think LTSP+linuxbios is a good idea.
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On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, belkajm wrote:
Thanks. This is all completely new to me, as i haven't messed about
with bios's before at all. I have a via epia system being used as an
adsl router, and when i get the time, will be creating my own linux
system to run it (atm it's running on nt4 :( ), with
This is a PIII?750 in a PC/104 form factor. Fast!
This one was a pain. Where it stands:
- it is up, but I have to set IOBASE to 0x2000. There is hardware (ACPI)
at 0x1000 that I can't get to turn off, it seems. This problem has
never cropped up on piix4e before, so I'm not sure what happened
On 31 Oct 2002, ollie lho wrote:
Cool, are you working on an off the shelf MAC ??
First efforts are with a development board from motorola.
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On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Phil Brooks wrote:
Is this the Advanced Digital Logic MSMP3-S?
yes.
I had been talking to Gary Karns at ADL about getting the Linuxbios
running on our system. We are using the MSMP5 (PII/266) - Gary tells
me they use the same board, only the processor and graphics chip
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, zhu shi song wrote:
Do you have quick and clear solution of the problem? I hope I can use my
celeron 850 asap.
I don't know what parameter I should pass to setclock
, and I can't find clock gen info from leadtek or sis
website. Can you give me direct clues?
I think we
we can help you but there's a price :-)
would you be willing to send me a writeup on How I built for the Geode
sc1200 if I tell you :-)
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Hammond, Jean-François wrote:
1 - Does linux bios needs any special memory
mapping, memory settings ?
no.
2 - Do I need to use address translation on the PCI ?
I can't see why.
3 - Is there any special settings to use a video card ?
(Yes, I got one.) 3D Blaster
note that gcc 3.2 is breaking stuff everywhere. From now on, with compile
problems, send you gcc version too.
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, John Allen wrote:
I need to get the kernel that I am building for my Geode sc1200
(including the linuxbios code) small enough to fit on a 256K eeprom. Is
this possible? My first attempt resulted in vmlinux of 626K. After
compiling linuxBIOS it gave my a rominage of
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