Re: [PATCH] powerpc: Reword the returning from prom_init message

2015-04-01 Thread Jeremy Kerr
Hi Michael,

 Let's try something different.
 
 This prints:
 
   Quiescing Open Firmware ...
   Booting Linux via __start() ...

returning from prom_init has been an emblem of the powerpc kernel boot
since old times. I feel like we should give the old message a Viking
funeral and pick a date for a minute of silence.

(Wistfully-)Acked-by: Jeremy Kerr j...@ozlabs.org

Cheers,


Jeremy

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Re: [PATCH] powerpc: Reword the returning from prom_init message

2015-04-01 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 14:56 +0800, Jeremy Kerr wrote:
 Hi Michael,
 
  Let's try something different.
  
  This prints:
  
Quiescing Open Firmware ...
Booting Linux via __start() ...
 
 returning from prom_init has been an emblem of the powerpc kernel boot
 since old times. I feel like we should give the old message a Viking
 funeral and pick a date for a minute of silence.

Let's drink to that :-)

 (Wistfully-)Acked-by: Jeremy Kerr j...@ozlabs.org
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 Jeremy
 
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[PATCH] powerpc: Reword the returning from prom_init message

2015-03-30 Thread Michael Ellerman
We get way too many bug reports that say the kernel is hung in
prom_init, which stems from the fact that the last piece of output
people see is returning from prom_init.

The kernel is almost never hung in prom_init(), it's just that it's
crashed somewhere after prom_init() but prior to the console coming up.

The existing message should give a clue to that, ie. returning from
indicates that prom_init() has finished, but it doesn't seem to work.
Let's try something different.

This prints:

  Quiescing Open Firmware ...
  Booting Linux via __start() ...

Which hopefully makes it clear that prom_init() is not the problem, and
although __start() probably isn't either, it's at least the right place
to begin looking.

Signed-off-by: Michael Ellerman m...@ellerman.id.au
---
 arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c b/arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c
index 1a85d8f96739..fd1fe4c37599 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c
@@ -2898,7 +2898,7 @@ unsigned long __init prom_init(unsigned long r3, unsigned 
long r4,
 * Call OF quiesce method to shut down pending DMA's from
 * devices etc...
 */
-   prom_printf(Calling quiesce...\n);
+   prom_printf(Quiescing Open Firmware ...\n);
call_prom(quiesce, 0, 0);
 
/*
@@ -2910,7 +2910,7 @@ unsigned long __init prom_init(unsigned long r3, unsigned 
long r4,
 
/* Don't print anything after quiesce under OPAL, it crashes OFW */
if (of_platform != PLATFORM_OPAL) {
-   prom_printf(returning from prom_init\n);
+   prom_printf(Booting Linux via __start() ...\n);
prom_debug(-dt_header_start=0x%x\n, hdr);
}
 
-- 
2.1.0

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[PATCH] powerpc: Reword the returning from prom_init message

2015-01-12 Thread Michael Ellerman
We get way too many bug reports that say the kernel is hung in
prom_init, which stems from the fact that the last piece of output
people see is returning from prom_init.

The kernel is almost never hung in prom_init(), it's just that it's
crashed somewhere after prom_init() but prior to the console coming up.

The existing message should give a clue to that, ie. returning from
indicates that prom_init() has finished, but it doesn't seem to work.
Let's try something different.

This prints:

  Calling quiesce...
  Shutting down Open Firmware, booting Linux via __start() ...

Which hopefully makes it clear that prom_init() is not the problem, and
although __start() probably isn't either, it's at least the right place
to begin looking.

Signed-off-by: Michael Ellerman m...@ellerman.id.au
---
 arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c b/arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c
index 1a85d8f96739..bd3e0d8ac8fd 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/prom_init.c
@@ -2910,7 +2910,7 @@ unsigned long __init prom_init(unsigned long r3, unsigned 
long r4,
 
/* Don't print anything after quiesce under OPAL, it crashes OFW */
if (of_platform != PLATFORM_OPAL) {
-   prom_printf(returning from prom_init\n);
+   prom_printf(Shutting down Open Firmware, booting Linux via 
__start() ...\n);
prom_debug(-dt_header_start=0x%x\n, hdr);
}
 
-- 
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Re: [PATCH] powerpc: Reword the returning from prom_init message

2015-01-12 Thread Michael Ellerman
On Mon, 2015-01-12 at 11:27 -0600, Paul Clarke wrote:
 On 01/12/2015 03:48 AM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
  We get way too many bug reports that say the kernel is hung in
  prom_init, which stems from the fact that the last piece of output
  people see is returning from prom_init.
 
  The kernel is almost never hung in prom_init(), it's just that it's
  crashed somewhere after prom_init() but prior to the console coming up.
 
  The existing message should give a clue to that, ie. returning from
  indicates that prom_init() has finished, but it doesn't seem to work.
  Let's try something different.
 
  This prints:
 
 Calling quiesce...
 Shutting down Open Firmware, booting Linux via __start() ...
 
  Which hopefully makes it clear that prom_init() is not the problem, and
  although __start() probably isn't either, it's at least the right place
  to begin looking.
 
 I'm very much in favor of anything that increases usability or decreases 
 confusion.
 
 I worry about confusion caused by any phrase that begins Shutting 
 down..  Even if accurate, I wonder if something more positive that 
 indicates that, at least at this point, things are continuing to proceed 
 along would be preferred.

True.

 Perhaps something like Transferring control from Open Firmware to 
 kernel (via __start) 

Yeah, that's not quite accurate either :)

Linux already has control, but up until that point it is running alongside OF
and using its services. After prom_init() returns we take over the machine
entirely.

Maybe Leaving Open Firmware, booting Linux ...

Or just Booting Linux 

 (Do we know for certain that what is about to be invoked is Linux 
 per-se, or can it be something else that has a __start?)

Yes it's Linux.

Although we treat prom_init() as a separate thing, it's just linked into the
regular kernel binary. So the transfer here is really just a function call.
But it signifies a switch from code that runs alongside Open Firmware
(prom_init()), to code that doesn't (the rest of the kernel).

We have talked about actually linking them separately but we've never bothered,
it wouldn't buy us much.

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Re: [PATCH] powerpc: Reword the returning from prom_init message

2015-01-12 Thread Paul Clarke

On 01/12/2015 03:48 AM, Michael Ellerman wrote:

We get way too many bug reports that say the kernel is hung in
prom_init, which stems from the fact that the last piece of output
people see is returning from prom_init.

The kernel is almost never hung in prom_init(), it's just that it's
crashed somewhere after prom_init() but prior to the console coming up.

The existing message should give a clue to that, ie. returning from
indicates that prom_init() has finished, but it doesn't seem to work.
Let's try something different.

This prints:

   Calling quiesce...
   Shutting down Open Firmware, booting Linux via __start() ...

Which hopefully makes it clear that prom_init() is not the problem, and
although __start() probably isn't either, it's at least the right place
to begin looking.


I'm very much in favor of anything that increases usability or decreases 
confusion.


I worry about confusion caused by any phrase that begins Shutting 
down..  Even if accurate, I wonder if something more positive that 
indicates that, at least at this point, things are continuing to proceed 
along would be preferred.


Perhaps something like Transferring control from Open Firmware to 
kernel (via __start) 


(Do we know for certain that what is about to be invoked is Linux 
per-se, or can it be something else that has a __start?)


PC

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