Re: Different SIGSEGV codes (x86 and ppc64le)

[Linus Torvalds]

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Michael Ellerman  wrote:
>
> The kernel describes those error codes as:
>
>   #define SEGV_MAPERR   (__SI_FAULT|1)  /* address not mapped to object */
>   #define SEGV_ACCERR   (__SI_FAULT|2)  /* invalid permissions for mapped 
> object */
>
> Which one is correct in this case isn't entirely clear. There is a stack
> mapping, but you're not allowed to use it because of the stack ulimit, so
> arguably ACCERR is more accurate.
>
> However that's only true because of the stack guard page, which is supposed to
> be somewhat invisible to userspace. If I disable the stack guard page logic,
> userspace sees SEGV_MAPERR, so it seems that historically that's what is
> expected.

I think MAPERR is likely the right thing for a guard page access.

That said, I'd also warn people from caring too mucbh about the
details of si_code. We've not traditionally been very good at filling
it in. So any program that uses it for any actual semantic behavior is
likely just broken. Print it it in debuggers by all means, but relying
on it in any other way is just crazy. It's just not historically
reliable enough.

So I wouldn't worry about it excessively.

  Linus
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Re: Different SIGSEGV codes (x86 and ppc64le)

[Gustavo Bueno Romero]

Breno,

Just to complement what you said, the si->si_code value you get on Power
with the code you provided (SEGV_ACCERR 2) comes
from .../arch/powerpc/mm/fault.c, line 375: https://goo.gl/6K40Bv

Hence, changing that line to 'code = SEGV_MAPERR;' makes your code die with
SIGSEGV Code ID 1, not 2:

:~/stack$ uname -a
Linux gromero12 4.4.0 #3 SMP Tue Jan 19 15:46:14 EST 2016 ppc64le ppc64le
ppc64le GNU/Linux
:~/stack$ ./overflow
Got SIGSEGV(1) at address: 0x3fffcecefff0
Segmentation fault


Regards,
--
Gustavo Romero
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Different SIGSEGV codes (x86 and ppc64le)

[Breno Leitao]

During some debugging, we found that during a stack overflow, the SIGSEGV code
returned is different on Power and Intel.

We were able to narrow down the test case to the follow simple code:

  https://github.com/leitao/stack/blob/master/overflow.c

On Power, the SIGSEV si->si_code is 2 (SEGV_ACCERR) , meaning "access error". On
the other way around, the same test on x86 returns si->si_code = 1 
(SEGV_MAPERR),
meaning "invalid permission". Any idea why such difference?

Example:

Power
-
  $  gcc overflow.c
  $  ./a.out
  Got SIGSEGV(2) at address: 0x3fffdd90ffe0


x86
---
  $ gcc overflow.c
  $ ./a.out
  Got SIGSEGV(1) at address: 0x7fff9f089fe8


Thank you!
Breno

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Re: Different SIGSEGV codes (x86 and ppc64le)

[Michael Ellerman]

On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 18:49 -0200, Breno Leitao wrote:

> During some debugging, we found that during a stack overflow, the SIGSEGV code
> returned is different on Power and Intel.
> 
> We were able to narrow down the test case to the follow simple code:
> 
>   https://github.com/leitao/stack/blob/master/overflow.c

[So the first thing I did was disable your signal handler, because that just
 complicates things.]

> On Power, the SIGSEV si->si_code is 2 (SEGV_ACCERR) , meaning "access error". 
> On
> the other way around, the same test on x86 returns si->si_code = 1 
> (SEGV_MAPERR),
> meaning "invalid permission". Any idea why such difference?

This seems to be a result of the stack guard page. Whenever the lowest page of
the stack vma is faulted in, the kernel grows the vma down one page.

That means in do_page_fault() we don't ever see a bad area (ie. no vma found)
for the stack. Instead we find a vma, and call handle_mm_fault(), which then
tries to expand the stack down in check_stack_guard_page(). Then in
expand_downwards() we call acct_stack_growth() which checks the stack ulimit,
and that is what fails.

That means the failure comes from handle_mm_fault(), and by that point in the
logic we have already set code to SEGV_ACCERR. So even though we goto bad_area,
code is SEGV_ACCERR and that's what you see.

x86 on the other hand handles the error path differently, it passes the error
down to mm_fault_error(), which calls bad_area_nosemaphore(), which always
specifies SEGV_MAPERR for VM_FAULT_SIGSEGV.

The kernel describes those error codes as:

  #define SEGV_MAPERR   (__SI_FAULT|1)  /* address not mapped to object */
  #define SEGV_ACCERR   (__SI_FAULT|2)  /* invalid permissions for mapped 
object */

Which one is correct in this case isn't entirely clear. There is a stack
mapping, but you're not allowed to use it because of the stack ulimit, so
arguably ACCERR is more accurate.

However that's only true because of the stack guard page, which is supposed to
be somewhat invisible to userspace. If I disable the stack guard page logic,
userspace sees SEGV_MAPERR, so it seems that historically that's what is
expected.

So we should probably fix this on powerpc.

It also makes me think the logic we have in do_page_fault() to directly expand
the stack (around line 375) is now dead code.

cheers

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