On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 21:09:20 Robin Gareus wrote: > On 06/29/2016 08:17 PM, RDP wrote: > > On 28 June 2016 at 23:12, Robin Gareus <ro...@gareus.org> wrote: > >> On 06/28/2016 11:39 PM, Christian Schoenebeck wrote: > >>> .. if you really want license issues to be addressed, sit down, > >>> elaborate and suggest clear license terms by yourself which could > >>> become a candidate to resolve those overall issues. > >> > >> Ok here it goes: I suggest to take the GPLv2. amend Section 1 with the > >> non commercial exception and change the name to LinuxSampler License. > > > > Might it not be a good idea for this discussion to be taken here, > > > > http://bb.linuxsampler.org/ > > > > .. with some drafts published ( wiki style ), so that such a beast > > can be formalised? > > wiki-style sounds good to me. As to where I don't care. Does > http://bb.linuxsampler.org/ facilitate editing a shared topic? > or a google-doc or page on wiki.linuxaudio.org - Can you set this up? > > As for discussion while editing #lad IRC on freenode.net > http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lad > would be a good idea.
Well, you can simply start a topic on bb.linuxsampler.org and update your (i.e. upper most) post with the latest version of the text. Of course I can also make a separate forum section and make the specific thread with the license text sticky (so that it stays on top). Whether there is some kind of shared/wiki feature on the forum, I don't know, it's a (more or less) standard phpbb installation after all. So you may check that on the phpbb website. Since the license is a fundamental issue of this project, I would rather prefer to keep its discussions and working versions on our sites. > ..to roll the ball a bit further, the goal is a proper valid license > which directly answers the following questions without doubt: > > > * Under what conditions can I use Linuxsamler ? > use: GPL Why? If there is going to be specific clear license text (whatever it will be named) then that should apply. > * Can I change linuxsampler and redistribute the sources? > > yes, that's how you send patches & contribute Yes, but the commercial exceptions stay valid. So that means the distribution might be OK (i.e. consider a public web server) but the user might face the actual restrictions (requires permission for commercial products). > * Can I build and distribute binaries not for profit? Even if the > target host is a commercial system? > > probably :) --- needs clarification What exactly did you have in mind? > * Can automate compilation and binary distribution not for profit > ...and accept donations for it? -- Even if the target host is a > commercial system? > > probably not. --- needs clarification If it is really a "donation" and not a hidden way to force the user charging for something, then yes it should be OK. My understanding of a "donation" is that the user is not forced in any way to actually donate/pay, right? However there are some sites which claim to provide software for a donation, and you have no way to get that specific software (version) without "donating". So the latter is not actually a donation from my point of view. > * Who needs to accept the license? > > both: distributor and user. Sure, everybody who "does" something with the software needs to act according to the license. > * Can I include binaries pre-installed on commercial hardware? > > No. Of course not. Commercial actors need prior permission to do so. > * Can I use GPLed parts of the source in a GPLv2 application? > > I suppose so. --- needs clarification No, the sources were released with commercial exception from day one (even the proof of concept code where I was not even on board yet). When there is a final license text, I would probably talk with the developers and update the header of the individual files one by one to explicitly clarify for the source code reader which exact terms apply to which source file. For certain source files it would make sense to release them under pure GPL. > * What commercial licensing options are available? > > -> send email to ... Yes, or it would also be possible to create a commercial license text as well and release the software dual licensed that way. But obviously that has less priority than clarifying the non-commercial license first. CU Christian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attend Shape: An AT&T Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT&T Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape _______________________________________________ Linuxsampler-devel mailing list Linuxsampler-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxsampler-devel
