Re: Format a Widget with an apple III

2005-05-11 Thread macmoni
Hi, trying to clear the confusion with internal Widget drives and external Profiles: The ProFile, at least the 5 MB version, was compatible with the Apple III. Yes ! But also compatible with Apple Lisa The only difference is the kind of formatting. That's all. (Same with 10MB) formatted by a

Re: Clock battery and floppy lubrication

2005-05-11 Thread macmoni
Hi everyone out there ! The clock batteries are 4 convenient Accumulator cells with 1.2 Volts and approx 600mAh - you can replace the 4 serial-connected cells (total=4.8 V) with AAA Size NiCad or NiMH Types. When I purchased my Lisa II from Sun many years ago, it has a dead clock battery, or a

Re: Format a Widget with an apple III

2005-05-11 Thread macmoni
Hi, the first question at last: I read that the ProFile could be low leveled with an Apple III and some software. ... and an adapter card ! Could you do the same with the Widget disk or is it's command set different? It is possible. But it will be easier to simply change only the

Re: Lisa History

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
Steve asked ... Why has the Lisa team remained silent? Isn't there a book here? I'd personally love to have all the anecdotes and the like concerning the Lisa's development to read. There's a little bit about it on the Mac Folklore site, but everything is so Mac-centric. It would be

Origins of the Apple Human Interface

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
For a great discussion of the development of the Lisa computer's user interface see the following web site which has a transcript of a presentation by one of the Lisa's creators, Larry Tesler. Origins of the Apple Human Interface Larry Tesler Chris Espinosa Oct. 28, 1997

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 2

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
And then it said, The software is integrated through a powerful and simple user interface. And it doesn't say it here, but John Couch, who was in charge of the Lisa project, did a sort of Kennedy we're-going-to-send-a-man-to-the-moon-and-bring-him-back thing; he said All I want is, I want to be

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 3

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
Now, we talked about testing. We said that the design's already based on studies of user reactions to various models; as you saw, we did three or four hours of testing. [Laughter] And we're going to do more testing, and avoid any glaring design flaws. I was happy that that was put in, because

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 4

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
Those of you who know the Xerox Star know that the Xerox Star had that feature. Those of us who were from Xerox were under a confidentiality agreement, that we weren't allowed to tell the other Apple people about the Star. And so, as you go through this, you'll sometimes find that things seem

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 5

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
We had active folders, so we had to have passive folders; the folder that wasn't active was passive. Now look at the bottom. Who has ever seen Mac OS8? And when you drag a window to the bottom of the screen it just kind of pops, and becomes just a tab, and then you can click it and it will slide

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 6

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
But, we started. This motivated those of us who decided we had to do this the right way to actually run more user tests. Because we thought maybe we could overwhelm them with facts, and that will overcome this reliance on votes of committees. So, Chris Doerr, Wallace Judd -- I think Wallace maybe

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 7

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
All right. Now it's still 1981, I should mention that the Xerox Star was announced at NCC or something -- National Computer Conference, I think in June of '81. Some Lisa people flew out there, got a look at it. Bill Atkinson went, I believe, and Steve Jobs went, or maybe he sent Bill and didn't

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 10

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
I remember very, very, very clearly that one of the massive controversies around the development for the Macintosh, circa 1982-1983, was developers would come up to us and say, You know, if you make the user interface consistent, and if you put all that software in ROM that makes it -- you know,

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 1a

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
http://www.computerhistory.org/events/lectures/appleint_10281997/appleint_xs cript.shtml Origins of the Apple Human Interface Larry Tesler Chris Espinosa 5:30 PM, Tuesday, Oct. 28, 1997 Computer Museum History Center Building 126 Moffett Field Mountain View, CA 94035 This is a verbatim

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 1b

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
Okay, so let's start at the beginning. I started at Apple on July 17th, 1980, and I just left there a few months ago. I was there for 17 years. This memo was written on July 18, 1980, so one thing I discovered when I left the big Xerox Corporation and went to this little Apple startup, was that

Re: Lisa History

2005-05-11 Thread kevin or peggy lindsey
Greetings. I'd like to add my name to the torrent of people after your CD set on Lisa history. My address is: Kevin Lindsey 3836 Inverness Road Fairfax, VA 22033 Many thanks, Kevin --- Shirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve asked ... Why has the Lisa team remained silent? Isn't there a

Re: floppy lubrication

2005-05-11 Thread lisa2
Here is a link to the Sun DYI guide for floppy lub info: http://www.applefritter.com/lisa/texts/LisaSunRepair.pdf Rick From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LisaList lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:41:02 -0500 To: LisaList lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Clock

Re: Clock battery and floppy lubrication

2005-05-11 Thread sauersr
The clock has never worked. I know about the time issue. Not even setting it to times the Lisa clock can recognize worked, even after I got it. I get an error message that the time is not set (or something similar) every time I turn the computer on. I assume the batteries were dead or the clock

Re: Lisa History

2005-05-11 Thread Larry Rosenstein
At 5:53 AM + 5/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why has the Lisa team remained silent? Isn't there a book here? I'd I don't think there's a book there. In general, product development projects are not all that interesting as stories, which is why the existing stuff about the Lisa is dry. The

Re: Clock battery and floppy lubrication

2005-05-11 Thread Dr. Helmut Post
Hi, I think you have a problem with your COPS412 chip: The COPS421 handles the RTC (Real Time Clock) which has a span of 15 years. Consequently this was set for 1980 to 1995, which means that it'll be really interesting to set dates such as 1998. Talk about Y2K premonition! I wonder what Apple