Re: Free IBM AT

2006-02-28 Thread Shirl
Chris, Then there was the 68000 based lab computer (O so you didn't know IBM used the 68k!). Also about 10 grand IIRC. You are referring to the IBM PC/9000 system. BYTE magazine had a very good article about this long ago, mid 1980s I believe. Seemed like a very good machine but with a very

Re: Alice

2005-11-23 Thread Shirl
Craig -- From: Anthony Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LisaList lisalist@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Alice Date: Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 6:59 AM Shirl wrote: Apple's first Lisa game was most likely the MAZE program written by Steve Capps, the author of the ALICE game. I recall reading a ST. MAC

Re: Lisa 2/5 Profiles crash - ProFile formatting

2005-10-22 Thread Shirl
Hello Helmut, There is no book or service web site as far as I know. You are correct that you need an Apple III and a special ProFile controller board processor to format a ProFile hard drive. The same applies also to the Widget drive in the Lisa. There is service information available to do

Lisa Office System source code ?

2005-08-26 Thread Shirl
Hi Does anyone have Lisa Office System source listings? I'm trying to find the source listing to such programs as the Lisa Desktop Manager (Lisa Finder in Mac parlance) or any of the Lisa applications such as LisaWrite. Paper listings are fine. I just want to see how these programs were built

Re: Lisa History

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
Steve asked ... Why has the Lisa team remained silent? Isn't there a book here? I'd personally love to have all the anecdotes and the like concerning the Lisa's development to read. There's a little bit about it on the Mac Folklore site, but everything is so Mac-centric. It would be

Origins of the Apple Human Interface

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
For a great discussion of the development of the Lisa computer's user interface see the following web site which has a transcript of a presentation by one of the Lisa's creators, Larry Tesler. Origins of the Apple Human Interface Larry Tesler Chris Espinosa Oct. 28, 1997

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 2

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
And then it said, The software is integrated through a powerful and simple user interface. And it doesn't say it here, but John Couch, who was in charge of the Lisa project, did a sort of Kennedy we're-going-to-send-a-man-to-the-moon-and-bring-him-back thing; he said All I want is, I want to be

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 3

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
Now, we talked about testing. We said that the design's already based on studies of user reactions to various models; as you saw, we did three or four hours of testing. [Laughter] And we're going to do more testing, and avoid any glaring design flaws. I was happy that that was put in, because

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 4

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
Those of you who know the Xerox Star know that the Xerox Star had that feature. Those of us who were from Xerox were under a confidentiality agreement, that we weren't allowed to tell the other Apple people about the Star. And so, as you go through this, you'll sometimes find that things seem

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 5

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
We had active folders, so we had to have passive folders; the folder that wasn't active was passive. Now look at the bottom. Who has ever seen Mac OS8? And when you drag a window to the bottom of the screen it just kind of pops, and becomes just a tab, and then you can click it and it will slide

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 6

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
But, we started. This motivated those of us who decided we had to do this the right way to actually run more user tests. Because we thought maybe we could overwhelm them with facts, and that will overcome this reliance on votes of committees. So, Chris Doerr, Wallace Judd -- I think Wallace maybe

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 7

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
All right. Now it's still 1981, I should mention that the Xerox Star was announced at NCC or something -- National Computer Conference, I think in June of '81. Some Lisa people flew out there, got a look at it. Bill Atkinson went, I believe, and Steve Jobs went, or maybe he sent Bill and didn't

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 10

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
I remember very, very, very clearly that one of the massive controversies around the development for the Macintosh, circa 1982-1983, was developers would come up to us and say, You know, if you make the user interface consistent, and if you put all that software in ROM that makes it -- you know,

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 1a

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
http://www.computerhistory.org/events/lectures/appleint_10281997/appleint_xs cript.shtml Origins of the Apple Human Interface Larry Tesler Chris Espinosa 5:30 PM, Tuesday, Oct. 28, 1997 Computer Museum History Center Building 126 Moffett Field Mountain View, CA 94035 This is a verbatim

Origins of the Apple Human Interface - part 1b

2005-05-11 Thread Shirl
Okay, so let's start at the beginning. I started at Apple on July 17th, 1980, and I just left there a few months ago. I was there for 17 years. This memo was written on July 18, 1980, so one thing I discovered when I left the big Xerox Corporation and went to this little Apple startup, was that

Re: Lisa Office System and GUI

2005-01-09 Thread Shirl
time to go through my papers and find out greetings TOM from Bavaria more humour ? Check this: www.deschler-web.de/Bilder/gaids.jpg In a world without walls or fences, who needs windows or gates? Am 09.01.2005 um 08:08 schrieb Shirl: ...and he [Bill Gates / Microsfot] needed several

Re: Lisa Office System

2005-01-09 Thread Shirl
Marcin, I did not research IBM's GUI development in as much detail as I would love to, but I think it all happened later. First OS/2 1.1 with GUI (joint creation of Microsoft and IBM) was released as late as in 1988. My undrstanding is IBM investigated an icon-based GUI _before_ there was a

Re: Lisa Office System and GUI

2005-01-09 Thread Shirl
Marcin, The field of GUI design seems to be full of creativie copying and alterations ans originality. Many many many people are involved in this area and they learn from each other. At least that is my impression. I think this behavior is very good since it provides innovations which hopefully

Re: LisaGuide.

2005-01-09 Thread Shirl
Marcin I have around a 100 screen shots on paper of LisaGuide in action. I made these when the Lisa debuted so I would have a paper copy of how to use the Lisa user interface. I will scan this document for you so you can have for your UI web site. - David Craig -- From: Marcin Wichary

Re: Lisa Office System

2005-01-08 Thread Shirl
Macmoni: There have been some developer systems, too. These were not available for custom users, but apple supported selected developers with a (or even several) Lisas and software. You are correct. Apple did provide pre-release versions of Lisa software to selected individuals outside of

Lisa 2 external video connector and video cameras

2004-12-04 Thread Shirl
Hi Q: Can the Lisa 2's external RCA video connector be used to record video output on a NTSC video camera? I want to make a pristine movie of my Lisa working which includes the startup, booting, Lisa Office System, Lisa Workshop, and MacWorks. I want clear and stable video images, no interlace

Re: My sick 2/10

2004-11-25 Thread Shirl
Jason, I have a sick 2/10. When I push the power button, there is a 'whump' from the speaker, the diskette drive motor spins a little, and that's is. No lights, CRT activity, nothing. Seems like others say this is a power supply problem or an over-current problem. In case the schematic for

Re: Looking for parts or a parts machine

2004-11-19 Thread Shirl
Stephen, I'm really looking for a working widget drive or someone who can test out a widget drive and possibly even low level format it Try the following person who may be able to fix Lisa hard drives: JOHN WOODALL [EMAIL PROTECTED] My understanding of Widget hard drive low-level

Re: PSU

2004-11-02 Thread Shirl
Mike Does anyone know of any more sources I could try for a Lisa PSU [power supply unit] ? For Lisa parts you could try: John Woodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] He repairs and sells Lisas and knows quite a bit about them. I am suprised that Sun Remarketing still has any Lisas or parts to

Re: Installing Lisa OS on ProFile

2004-08-17 Thread Shirl
Chris How about trying the LISA TEST diskette to see if this will format the ProFile drive attached to your parallel card. Believe there is a repair or format utility in Lisa Test. - David Craig -- From: Chris Smolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LisaList [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: